21 Sep
2002
21 Sep
'02
1:26 p.m.
Hey, all. I was just browsing and saw the Soundart Chameleon, which
looks like a really cool toy. Unfortunately, the development tools are
windows-only. I'm sure that I could run at least some of them under
wine/vmware, but I'm not too interested in
1. buying a Windows license to get DLLs that I need to run some
program properly under Wine (or at all under vmware), or
2. paying $700 for a hardware device from a company that refuses to
support Linux or release the code for their compilers (especially since
their business model is explicitly stated as "give away compilers for
free, so people will make applications and we can sell chameleons").
My other concern is that I'm going to buy a powerbook soon (probably
dual-booting OS X and Linux), so having an open-source toolchain would
make it much less painful to switch back and forth between my big
computer and my portable. Finally, it's been 7 or 8 years since I've
done any software development in a Windows environment, and I don't
think I could go back without a lot of pain, now that I'm so used to
having the standard Unix tools. (Yeah, I know about cygwin/etc, and I'm
not trying to start another Linux/Windows flamefest :-)
What other programmable dsp boxes (preferably using the gcc toolchain)
are there? I'm interested in something like the Chameleon, a
rackmountable box with a DSP engine, LCD, control knobs/buttons and
audio and midi ins-and-outs. Obviously, the "rackmountable" requirement
is least important, but it would be nice, since there's a lot of cruft
on/around my desk in the basement. :-)
best,
wb
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Will Benton <willb(a)cs.wisc.edu>
22 Sep
22 Sep
7:27 a.m.
On Sat, Sep 21, 2002 at 10:24:37 -0500, Will Benton wrote:
Hey, all. I was just browsing and saw the Soundart
Chameleon, which
looks like a really cool toy. Unfortunately, the development tools are
windows-only. I'm sure that I could run at least some of them under
wine/vmware, but I'm not too interested in
I think that all the code / information neccesary to port the toolchain to
linux is there, but no-one has done it. You should check with the
manufacturers though.
Someone else discussed it here a few weeks back, so you might be able to
get some help. I'm interesting in the final product, but dont realy have
time to help with porting anything.
What other programmable dsp boxes (preferably using
the gcc toolchain)
are there? I'm interested in something like the Chameleon, a
rackmountable box with a DSP engine, LCD, control knobs/buttons and
audio and midi ins-and-outs. Obviously, the "rackmountable" requirement
Many of the DSP development boards can be used with linux, but they tend
to be outragously expensive, you you would have to make your own MIDI i/o
too - though they have compatible serial ports I think.
There is one oldish 56k based development board which isn't too expensive,
and has a large user community, but its pretty slow
- Steve
3:37 p.m.
On Sat, Sep 21, 2002 at 10:24:37 -0500, Will Benton wrote:
Hey, all. I was just browsing and saw the Soundart
Chameleon, which
looks like a really cool toy. Unfortunately, the development tools are
windows-only. I'm sure that I could run at least some of them under
wine/vmware, but I'm not too interested in
I guess my idea of an inexpensive "programmable DSP box" is a low-end
desktop PC running Linux and "sfront" with a decent inexpensive sound card.
What's the point of specialized DSP hardware and software when you have a
Pentium or Athlon capable of doing gigaflops and an OS capable of being
customized to keep it out of the DSP code's way?
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4:24 p.m.
On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 12:36, M. Edward Borasky wrote:
I guess my idea of an inexpensive "programmable
DSP box" is a low-end
desktop PC running Linux and "sfront" with a decent inexpensive sound card.
What's the point of specialized DSP hardware and software when you have a
Pentium or Athlon capable of doing gigaflops and an OS capable of being
customized to keep it out of the DSP code's way?
Sure, and that's a valid point. What's cool about the Chameleon is that
I can put it in a rack and take it to a gig with the rest of my rack
gear (and it won't run so hot that it'll cook my synths or start a
fire). A rackmount computer might be an option if it will work in a
light-duty effects rack, even though general-purpose chips/etc. are a
lot more expensive than DSP chips. So maybe better questions are:
1. where can I get a cheap 1U rackmount enclosure with a LED slot?
2. what is a good rackmount motherboard with one PCI slot
(for an audiophile or hoontech card)?
3. what low-power (but fairly high-performance) chips run Linux
well? ARM is inadequate because it has no FPU, and the PPC
boards were pretty expensive last I checked. I suppose that a
deceleron or duron would be adequate because I won't need a
lot of cache (?), but I'd rather have the cache.
Thanks all,
wb
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