On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Robin Gareus <robin(a)gareus.org> wrote: i think the D&B mix with some light hand percussion could be quite nice.

Hi Julien, some inline replies: On 07/20/2012 11:24 PM, Julien Claassen wrote: Yes! The tune just longs for a good sparse screaming Hammond :) I jammed a bit along Jason Jones' mix (the one with drums) with setBfree but it didn't work out. Eventually Dave's bassline was driving me mad.. The bass isn't really walking and too much otherwise for my taste. Wow, thanks. Coming from you that means a lot to me. Actually it was you who inspired me: I would not have dared to rip Dave's song apart until I heard your '4 to da floor mix'. Then it was: What the heck, let's get this souled-out and join the cover/remix fun. I grabbed the ardour-session from Thorsten and started removing things.. eventually only the vocals were left - they're marvelous a Capella! In fact they don't really need anything else! Then I imagined Dave lazily holding on to an upright bass while singing... That stuck. ciao, robin PS. IMHO your 4TTF mix could use am even more prominent bass [drum]. The current one isn't doing the digestion for me.

On Fri, 2012-07-20 at 21:25 +0200, Julien Claassen wrote: It was very common for 90s reaggy from Jamaica, Sugar Minott, Wanye Junior, Sly Dunbar etc. that they mad tons of songs from one song. Usually not music I like, such as "Time Hard".

On 07/22/2012 06:12 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: It is possible to build a properly designed cabinet that will get fairly good response in the low end, just at a GREATLY reduced output. Having said that, trying to design a usable cabinet with less than a 15" speaker is kind of a waste of time and money, and will result in serious compromises. If a cabinet isn't +/-3db down to at least 40HZ, it's not a good idea to rely on it as your main monitor. The low E on a bass is around 42Hz. The low B on a 5 string is 34Hz or something like that. If you mix on a system than only goes down to 50Hz, for example, there is nearly an octave of bass guitar that you will have no idea what is doing. Same for kick drum. -- --- http://www.lateralforce.com My blog, with commentary on a variety of things, including audio, mixing, equipment, etc, is at: http://audioandmore.wordpress.com Staat heißt das kälteste aller kalten Ungeheuer. Kalt lügt es auch; und diese Lüge kriecht aus seinem Munde: 'Ich, der Staat, bin das Volk.' - [Friedrich Nietzsche]

Hello! Just a short note of slgith disagreement: when I mix my normal prog rock or when I did some metal, I cut the bassdrum at 50Hz or even higher - for the metal - and it was a good thing too. Also normallly I use EQ'ing in the low band as well, to take volument down further. OK, with basses it's been different. The one, that usually just appears as "sub_bass" in my tracks wouldn't get the highpass filter at 50Hz, that would do some really audible damage. Mixed regards - or is that mixingly yours :-) Julien =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Such Is Life: Very Intensely Adorable; Free And Jubilating Amazement Revels, Dancing On - FLOWERS! ====== Find my music at ====== http://juliencoder.de/nama/music.html ..................................... "If you live to be 100, I hope I live to be 100 minus 1 day, so I never have to live without you." (Winnie the Pooh)

On Sunday 22 July 2012 22:14:58 Al Thompson did opine: At which point I have to tell a story. In 1960, I worked for a bit at a HiFi store at 5150 El Cajon Blvd in San Diego, CA. At that time the newest pretender to the king of the hill was a box with a 10" driver & dual tweeters. About a 2 feet square face and about 14" deep, a ducted port bass reflex made by Bozak. The store owner was an experimenter, so he bought 2 of them, and took one of them apart. He added some cross bracing to help solidify the panels by coupling each with glued in bracing to its opposing face, then since it had lots of crepe paper for internal sound absorbsion, he added about 2x more of it. And he'd ordered the long throw version of that bass driver, the B10-AL to replace the more limited throw std speaker. The AL could be driven 3/4" in both directions. After giving the glue a day to set, a dynaco amp was hooked up along with the bench audio oscillator, and that puppy amazed us. Using a decent volume level at 100hz, the oscillator went down, clear to 10hz, without detecting any of the bass reflexes normal peaks and valleys below 60 hz. At 10hz, we could hear the air chuffing thru the port, but more importantly, the room seemed to be bouncing. Hooking up a turntable typical of then, a Weathers cartridge in a 16" fairchild arm on a 16" Battleship turntable, he got out the Command record of various instrument solo's with emphasis on orchestral drums. At the end of the kettle drum solo, we heard and felt something we had never heard or felt before, because in the std speaker that looked exactly like the rebuilt one, the end of the drum solo was when the drummer took his foot off the head tension pedal, you could hear the squeak of the linkage. Pick the needle up and move it back 20 seconds and switch the rebuilt speaker in. That kettle pair seemed to grow cajones with the switch, but the surprise was that after the squeak of the pedal release on the big one, the player had given the slack head another whack. The whole room bounced. So it can be done, if you are willing to pay the piper. That one went on the show floor that evening, beside the std one that sold for $245 each, with a $500 tag on it. He got to do it again, because the guy who gave him $500 for that one wanted another just like it for his stereo system, for obvious reasons. A walk down memory lane, to a different time & place. While I was in San Diego, one of the other things I did was help build a couple tv cameras. They were on the Trieste when it went into the mohole in Feb 1960. No one has been back since till James Cameron went down about a year ago now. Water isn't compressible? Ahh, but it is when the pressure against the hull is 18,000 psi. So was the hull, it bent the frames of the equipment racks. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: <http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene> is up! QOTD: "I ain't broke, but I'm badly bent."

On Sun, 2012-07-22 at 20:30 -0400, Al Thompson wrote: You might be right. In professional studios switching between different monitors is common. Dunno how much inches those hole-in-the-wall speakers are, but not every studio has got such monitors, some have smaller ones and it anyway works. At home I do comparisons between CDs and my own music and I'm switching between different less good speakers. I guess issues already start by old capacitors for the amps. Who has got the money to maintain homestudios, broadcasting studios, film studios etc. regarding to optimized audio quality? The error chain in such studios IMO is endless. - Ralf