14 Apr
2006
14 Apr
'06
6:36 p.m.
Hi!
Quite a while ago, I decided to create a sample-free piece of music,
where everything is generated with Om (modular synthesizer).
To test Om, to learn how to use it and to achieve non-static sounds
with modulation and random influences (I tend to think many of my
old tracks suffer from rather 'dead' sounds ...).
Since I've been working on this now and then for so long, I guess
I lost my objectivity even more than usual, so feedback is especialy
welcome ;) I might update the track once afterwards.
The dirty monkey is kinda pissed, but optimistic (that's the mood
I wanted, at least, as I feel like that sometimes).
http://www.archive.org/details/dirty_monkey
Oops, the archive has eaten the ogg, I'm about to fix that now.
Cheers,
Thorsten Wilms
14 Apr
14 Apr
7:14 p.m.
Man, that was exactly what I needed to keep going :-)
Thank you!
Ico
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Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 4:35 PM
To: linux-audio-user(a)music.columbia.edu
Subject: [linux-audio-user] Music: Dirty Monkey
Hi!
Quite a while ago, I decided to create a sample-free piece of music,
where everything is generated with Om (modular synthesizer).
To test Om, to learn how to use it and to achieve non-static sounds
with modulation and random influences (I tend to think many of my
old tracks suffer from rather 'dead' sounds ...).
Since I've been working on this now and then for so long, I guess
I lost my objectivity even more than usual, so feedback is especialy
welcome ;) I might update the track once afterwards.
The dirty monkey is kinda pissed, but optimistic (that's the mood
I wanted, at least, as I feel like that sometimes).
http://www.archive.org/details/dirty_monkey
Oops, the archive has eaten the ogg, I'm about to fix that now.
Cheers,
Thorsten Wilms
7:23 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Music: Dirty Monkey
Sup Thorsten!
The Intro is Earth-Shaking. Good Stuff. Hard techno and borderline
psychedelic. Almost a tune I could hear played in St. Gallen's very own
ElectroKeller.
But then the melody comes in and ruins it. Off the top of my head I'd
scrap the melody completely and use the harmonies VERY sparingly as
orchestra jabs.
I'd also get a title that sounds 'cool' :)
Carlo
15 Apr
15 Apr
12:36 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Music: Dirty Monkey
Thanks, Ico.
On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 11:23:15PM +0200, Carlo Capocasa wrote:
The Intro is Earth-Shaking. Good Stuff. Hard techno
and borderline
psychedelic. Almost a tune I could hear played in St. Gallen's very own
ElectroKeller.
Thanks :)
But then the melody comes in and ruins it. Off the top
of my head I'd
scrap the melody completely and use the harmonies VERY sparingly as
orchestra jabs.
Hrmpf. Well, I see where you're coming from. For a club track, I would
definitely have to at least reduce the lead. But without, it doesn't
have the feel I wanted. While working on it, I often asked myself if
there's a nice kind of tension or if it just bites, though.
I'm not willing to remove the lead. But I added an archive with all
Om patches, the MusE and JAMin files and a MIDI export, so anyone
can work with it (all cc-by-sa). Requires recent Om CVS, though.
It's all open source, baby! ;)
http://www.archive.org/download/dirty_monkey/dirty_monkey.tar.bz2
I'd also get a title that sounds 'cool' :)
To me, Dirty Monkey does sound cool ;p
---
Thorsten
12:57 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Music: Dirty Monkey
Thorsten Wilms wrote:
Thanks, Ico.
On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 11:23:15PM +0200, Carlo Capocasa wrote:
Keep the lead and the name. It's all good stuff. Nice track. Thanks for
sharing.
Bill
The Intro is Earth-Shaking. Good Stuff. Hard
techno and borderline
psychedelic. Almost a tune I could hear played in St. Gallen's very own
ElectroKeller.
Thanks :)
But then the melody comes in and ruins it. Off
the top of my head I'd
scrap the melody completely and use the harmonies VERY sparingly as
orchestra jabs.
Hrmpf. Well, I see where you're coming from. For a club track, I would
definitely have to at least reduce the lead. But without, it doesn't
have the feel I wanted. While working on it, I often asked myself if
there's a nice kind of tension or if it just bites, though.
I'm not willing to remove the lead. But I added an archive with all
Om patches, the MusE and JAMin files and a MIDI export, so anyone
can work with it (all cc-by-sa). Requires recent Om CVS, though.
It's all open source, baby! ;)
http://www.archive.org/download/dirty_monkey/dirty_monkey.tar.bz2
I'd also get a title that sounds
'cool' :)
To me, Dirty Monkey does sound cool ;p
---
Thorsten
9:19 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Music: Dirty Monkey
> But then the melody comes in and ruins it. Off
the top of my head I'd
> scrap the melody completely and use the harmonies VERY sparingly as
> orchestra jabs.
I thought that this was exactly the whole point of the piece--the lead sound
at first sounded like a really cheesy lead guitar completely out of place
and character, but then I realized it was the pissed off monkey being, well,
pissed off :-)... And then the harmonies crept in, which to me sounded like
that tiny optimism peeking in the background.
To me, Dirty Monkey does sound cool ;p
Yep, given the programmatic element, IMHO it could not be more appropriate
;-)
Ico
16 Apr
16 Apr
4:31 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Music: Dirty Monkey
But then the
melody comes in and ruins it. Off the top of my head I'd
scrap the melody completely and use the harmonies VERY sparingly as
orchestra jabs.
Hrmpf. Well, I see where you're coming from. For a club track, I would
definitely have to at least reduce the lead. But without, it doesn't
have the feel I wanted. While working on it, I often asked myself if
there's a nice kind of tension or if it just bites, though. 
15 Apr
15 Apr
5:06 p.m.
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 22:35:15 +0200
Thorsten Wilms <t_w_(a)freenet.de> wrote:
Hi!
Quite a while ago, I decided to create a sample-free piece of music,
where everything is generated with Om (modular synthesizer).
To test Om, to learn how to use it and to achieve non-static sounds
with modulation and random influences (I tend to think many of my
old tracks suffer from rather 'dead' sounds ...).
Since I've been working on this now and then for so long, I guess
I lost my objectivity even more than usual, so feedback is especialy
welcome ;) I might update the track once afterwards.
The dirty monkey is kinda pissed, but optimistic (that's the mood
I wanted, at least, as I feel like that sometimes).
http://www.archive.org/details/dirty_monkey
Oops, the archive has eaten the ogg, I'm about to fix that now.
Cheers,
Thorsten Wilms
Hi. This isn't really my sort of thing, but I did find it very
interesting. You've managed an impressive depth. Rock On :)
--
F
5:23 p.m.
Thorsten Wilms <t_w_(a)freenet.de> wrote:
Thorsten,
Good stuff. Good work. I enjoyed it.
cheers,
Mark
6:02 p.m.
Thank you Bill, Folderol and Mark :)
Having more trust in my ears now ;)
Cheers,
Thorsten
8:29 p.m.
Intro is awesome!
After listening to this and many other examples of linux audio, hw VA
synths need to be really cool to be purchased.
Best regards,
Dmitry.
16 Apr
16 Apr
6:52 a.m.
On Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 02:29:36AM +0400, Dmitry Baikov wrote:
Intro is awesome!
Thanks :D
It's my first wholy generative patch (atmo_jungle.om), 4 takes,
all different thanks to a lot of randomness. Used a highpass
with rising cutoff controled via CC to make room for bass and
to fade it out.
After listening to this and many other examples of
linux audio, hw VA
synths need to be really cool to be purchased.
Yeah. If I had the money, I would spend it on all the CPU power I
could get ;)
Cheers,
Thorsten
15 Apr
15 Apr
10:09 p.m.
Thorsten Wilms wrote:
Very nice! I don't think the lead is the least cheasy. Actually I think
it really, really cool.
Is all those om-patches running in realtimeat the same time? If so which
computer do you have? If not, how do you work with something like this,
recording one track at the time in ardour, or?
--
peace, love & harmony
Atte
http://www.atte.dk
http://www.atte.dk/gps
16 Apr
16 Apr
7:25 a.m.
On Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 02:09:25AM +0200, Atte Andr? Jensen wrote:
Thorsten Wilms wrote:
Very nice! I don't think the lead is the least cheasy. Actually I think
it really, really cool.
Thank you. Well, I can understand both people who think it's kinda
cheesy and those who think it's cool. I'm confident I managed to give
it character, anyway ;)
Is all those om-patches running in realtimeat the same
time? If so which
computer do you have? If not, how do you work with something like this,
recording one track at the time in ardour, or?
I can only run 3 or 4 of the patches without horrible xrun artefacts
and very slow GUI reactions. To avoid audible xruns completely, I
ended up enabling only one patch for recording at a time.
Most of the percussion patches can be run simultaneously here, so
I have been able to work on them in context. For the rest, I compared
and tweaked the sounds in pairs, a process like adapting B to go
well with A, then C with B ... also relied on my imagination to some
degree ;)
I intended to record with MusE, keeping everything in one place. But
while I had no problems with that earlier, I now found most of my
patches to trigger some weird bug, resulting in crackling and even
worse things. Nothing of that comes up when recording with Timemachine,
so I know it's not Om or Jack (There's a bug report for this, of course).
So I connected Timemachine with the Om outputs to record from for each
single patch. Could have used Ardour, but didn't feel like creating
all the tracks again and hooking everything up. (Someone called this
a misuse of Timemachine. Well, I don't care about having 1 or more seconds
of audio recorded before hitting record. Making connections is best done
via Patchage, anyway. Timemachine offers meters and a big button, just
what I need).
The mixdown from Muse (after importing the audio files, adjusting levels,
FX) appeared quite loud and full already, but JAMin surprised me with
bringing it to the front even more :)
Cheers,
Thorsten
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