9 Dec
2014
9 Dec
'14
7:29 p.m.
Hello all
I'm currently having problems backing up my MIDI devices - namely a Korg ER-1 drum
machine.
The device sends a MIDI Sysex dump, which I used to be able to receive and record in
Qtractor through my M-Audio Audiophile 192 PCI interface.
Now though, I've switched to a Firewire interface, the Edirol FA-101 - and the Sysex
messages are no longer getting through. I can still send and record normal notes from my
gear. The only difference I can see is that the MIDI now comes through JACK MIDI, not
ALSA. I gather this is the way most Firewire cards work with Linux.
I have tried recording using jack MIDI only, and using a2jmidid to get it through to ALSA.
I've even tried this dedicated program, to no avail -
http://www.christeck.de/wp/products/simple-sysexxer/
Does JACK MIDI not support sysex at all? Do I have to buy a USB MIDI interface just for my
backups? :(
Any help appreciated, as always
cheers, Oliver
8:01 p.m.
By size, are we talking the length of the recording, or the throughput? Because as far as
I can tell there is no MIDI being received at all when I tell the device to transmit. The
process lasts about two or three minutes by the way.
Would altering jack settings make any difference? Can I use one of the drivers other than
firewire?
---- On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 19:54:03 +0000 Paul Davis
<paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote ----
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:29 PM, oli_kester <oli_kester(a)zoho.com> wrote:
Does JACK MIDI not support sysex at all?
There is a size limit, not a message type limit.
8:31 p.m.
On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 20:00:57 +0000
oli_kester <oli_kester(a)zoho.com> wrote:
By size, are we talking the length of the recording,
or the throughput? Because as far as I can tell there is no MIDI being received at all
when I tell the device to transmit. The process lasts about two or three minutes by the
way.
Would altering jack settings make any difference? Can I use one of the drivers other than
firewire?
That is a seriously big chunk of data! Using Simple Sysexer My Yamaha QS300
takes about 30 seconds for a full dump.
It's a long time since I did any work with programs to send and receive SYSEX
(Acorn Archimedes) but I seem to remember that the sender could elect to send
just one massive block of data or a bunch of smaller ones. Do you know which
the Korg uses (is it switchable?)
--
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Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
8:41 p.m.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:00 PM, oli_kester <oli_kester(a)zoho.com> wrote:
By size, are we talking the length of the recording,
or the throughput?
Because as far as I can tell there is no MIDI being received at all when I
tell the device to transmit. The process lasts about two or three minutes
by the way.
Would altering jack settings make any difference? Can I use one of the
drivers other than firewire?
There are no JACK settings that can help you. JACK MIDI was deliberately
designed with this limitation in mind (though there have been attempts to
design fixes/workarounds for it)
11 Dec
11 Dec
12:04 p.m.
Hi Clemens
I'm not sure what you mean by this - I found a package called snd, and a GUI is
available... Record it with this somehow?
Or do you mean switch to a different kernel entirely?
Thanks, Oliver
---- On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 20:10:40 +0000 Clemens Ladisch &lt;clemens(a)ladisch.de&gt;
wrote ----
oli_kester wrote:
> Now though, I've switched to a Firewire interface, the Edirol FA-101 -
> and the Sysex messages are no longer getting through.
In kernel 3.16 or later, the snd-bebob kernel driver should work.
Regards,
Clemens
1:02 p.m.
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 12:04:09 +0000, oli_kester wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 20:10:40 +0000 Clemens Ladisch
> In kernel 3.16 or later, the snd-bebob kernel
driver should work.
I'm not sure what you mean by this - I found a
package called snd,
and a GUI is available... Record it with this somehow?
Or do you mean switch to a different kernel entirely?
Kernel's >= 3.16 provide this kernel module, you likely need to load
it, before you can use it.
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ lsmod | grep snd_bebob
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ sudo modprobe snd_bebob
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ lsmod | grep snd_bebob
snd_bebob 37084 0
snd_firewire_lib 22794 1 snd_bebob
snd_hwdep 17244 2 snd_bebob,snd_hdspm
snd_rawmidi 26806 4
snd_firewire_lib,snd_bebob,snd_hdspm,snd_mpu401_uart
snd_pcm 88487 5
snd_firewire_lib,snd_ice1712,snd_ac97_codec,snd_bebob,snd_hdspm
snd 73436 13
snd_ice1712,snd_ac97_codec,snd_bebob,snd_hdspm,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_i2c,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_ak4xxx_adda,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_device,snd_cs8427
firewire_core 56700 3 snd_firewire_lib,snd_bebob,firewire_ohci
Regards,
Ralf
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5:40 p.m.
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 12:04:09 +0000, oli_kester wrote:
Yes; you would have to upgrade your kernel
(with whatever mechanism your distribution uses for this).
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 20:10:40 +0000 Clemens
Ladisch
> In kernel 3.16 or later, the snd-bebob kernel
driver should work.
> I'm not sure what you mean by this
>
> do you mean switch to a different kernel entirely? Kernel's >= 3.16 provide this kernel module,
you likely need to load
it, before you can use it.
It would be loaded automatically.
Regards,
Clemens
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