Okay, Now that I have pretty much decided to give up the ghost on the intel8x0 as a hardware patchbay seems to be a better option, (and I think the onbaord audio system may have shorted .., the driver now refuses to load all setting are as they previously were) Has anyone got any suggestions regarding playing cd's while not doing audio work? (as there is no cd input on the delta66). Is there a player that will read the digital audio and send it to the sound card .. such as an unmentionable player from another OS? Or do I need to begin ripping and converting to mp3 (yuck) cheers -- Allan Klinbail <allank(a)labyrinth.net.au>