5 Dec
2010
5 Dec
'10
11:52 a.m.
Hi all,
For the drums in my projects, I usually use Hydrogen, running it in its
mode that creates separate JACK outputs for each drum in the kit. Then,
I run those outputs in to separate tracks in Ardour, usually in groups
(ie: one track for the kick, one for snare, one for toms, one for
hats/cymbals).
The RAM usage of Hydrogen with larger kits, though, like the (210MB)
BigMono kit from AnalogueDrums, is substantial, so I'm looking at using
LinuxSampler as an alternative. I have BigMono running in LinuxSampler
CVS, thanks to this SFZ mapping:
http://www.drealm.info/sfz/AnalogueDrums/
It works beautifully, but with a standard LinuxSampler setup just
producing stereo output, I'm not sure how I'm going to mix the results
in Ardour.
Is there any way to get LinuxSampler to output different notes, or
groups of notes, to separate outputs in JACK?
Thanks
Leigh
5 Dec
5 Dec
1:18 p.m.
Hello Leigh!
I haven't used sfz, but I think it's a text-based format? So create several
sfz files, one containing only the snare with its mapping, one the toms,...
Load several sfz-engines, create several channels and go. My load script for
the Drumkit from Hell, looks like this (it's two gigfiles, each containing
kick, snare, toms, hihats+cymbals. One gigfile is closemic'ed the other with
room.
CREATE AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE JACK
CREATE AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE JACK
CREATE AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE JACK
CREATE AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE JACK
CREATE MIDI_INPUT_DEVICE ALSA
ADD CHANNEL
ADD CHANNEL
ADD CHANNEL
ADD CHANNEL
ADD CHANNEL
ADD CHANNEL
ADD CHANNEL
ADD CHANNEL
LOAD ENGINE GIG 0
LOAD ENGINE GIG 1
LOAD ENGINE GIG 2
LOAD ENGINE GIG 3
LOAD ENGINE GIG 4
LOAD ENGINE GIG 5
LOAD ENGINE GIG 6
LOAD ENGINE GIG 7
SET CHANNEL AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE 0 0
SET CHANNEL AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE 1 1
SET CHANNEL AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE 2 2
SET CHANNEL AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE 3 3
SET CHANNEL AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE 4 0
SET CHANNEL AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE 5 1
SET CHANNEL AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE 6 2
SET CHANNEL AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE 7 3
SET CHANNEL MIDI_INPUT_DEVICE 0 0
SET CHANNEL MIDI_INPUT_DEVICE 1 0
SET CHANNEL MIDI_INPUT_DEVICE 2 0
SET CHANNEL MIDI_INPUT_DEVICE 3 0
SET CHANNEL MIDI_INPUT_DEVICE 4 0
SET CHANNEL MIDI_INPUT_DEVICE 5 0
SET CHANNEL MIDI_INPUT_DEVICE 6 0
SET CHANNEL MIDI_INPUT_DEVICE 7 0
LOAD INSTRUMENT "/home/src/test/gig/dfh/cDFH.gig" 0 0
LOAD INSTRUMENT "/home/src/test/gig/dfh/cDFH.gig" 2 1
LOAD INSTRUMENT "/home/src/test/gig/dfh/cDFH.gig" 10 2
LOAD INSTRUMENT "/home/src/test/gig/dfh/cDFH.gig" 16 3
LOAD INSTRUMENT "/home/src/test/gig/dfh/rDFH.gig" 0 4
LOAD INSTRUMENT "/home/src/test/gig/dfh/rDFH.gig" 2 5
LOAD INSTRUMENT "/home/src/test/gig/dfh/rDFH.gig" 10 6
LOAD INSTRUMENT "/home/src/test/gig/dfh/rDFH.gig" 16 7
SET CHANNEL VOLUME 0 1.3
SET CHANNEL VOLUME 1 1.2
SET CHANNEL VOLUME 2 1.0
SET CHANNEL VOLUME 3 0.8
SET CHANNEL VOLUME 4 1.3
SET CHANNEL VOLUME 5 0.6
SET CHANNEL VOLUME 6 1.1
SET CHANNEL VOLUME 7 1.2
I hope that helps.
Kindest regards
Julien
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1:25 p.m.
On 12/05/2010 01:20 PM, Julien Claassen wrote:
Hello Leigh!
I haven't used sfz, but I think it's a text-based format? So create
several sfz files, one containing only the snare with its mapping, one
the toms,... Load several sfz-engines, create several channels and go.
My load script for the Drumkit from Hell, looks like this (it's two
gigfiles, each containing kick, snare, toms, hihats+cymbals. One
gigfile is closemic'ed the other with room.
Hi,
I do follow this thread with great interest. I just discovered sfz and
it's very nice stuff. That drealm.info/sfz is a great site!
I didn't know the Drumkit from Hell was also available as samples, I
thought it was a VST plugin...
In general I think we should share as much as possible of this sfz
stuff, very useful for many of us I think.
Regards,
\r
1:28 p.m.
Hello Rosea!
I think DFH isn't available as gig anymore. Has been sometime I got it.
Kind regards
Julien
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2:48 p.m.
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Julien Claassen <julien(a)c-lab.de> wrote:
Hello Leigh!
I haven't used sfz, but I think it's a text-based format? So create several
sfz files, one containing only the snare with its mapping, one the toms,...
Load several sfz-engines, create several channels and go. My load script for
the Drumkit from Hell, looks like this (it's two gigfiles, each containing
kick, snare, toms, hihats+cymbals. One gigfile is closemic'ed the other with
room.
CREATE AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE JACK
CREATE AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE JACK
CREATE AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE JACK
CREATE AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE JACK
why 4 JACK "devices" ?
3:01 p.m.
Hello Paul!
I don't know, what LinuxSampler does, if it has just one output device,
probably create more channels for that client. It's easier that way, to
connect the ports to Nama.
Kind regards
Julien
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6 Dec
6 Dec
12:26 a.m.
On 05/12/10 23:20, Julien Claassen wrote:
Hello Leigh!
I haven't used sfz, but I think it's a text-based format? So create
several sfz files, one containing only the snare with its mapping, one
the toms,... Load several sfz-engines, create several channels and go.
My load script for the Drumkit from Hell, looks like this (it's two
gigfiles, each containing kick, snare, toms, hihats+cymbals. One gigfile
is closemic'ed the other with room.
Thanks Julien -- I was thinking that might be an option, either
splitting up the drumkit (which should be easy enough to do since SFZ is
indeed just a text file), or just loading multiple instances of it on to
separate JACK ports.
How do you handle the incoming MIDI? Do you simply write separate parts
for each instance of the drumkit (ie: a kick MIDI track, a snare MIDI
trac, etc.)? That seems like the easiest way to handle it, and I guess
if I really felt the need to have the MIDI all on one track, I could use
QMidiRoute or something to split the different notes out to different
MIDI ports or channels for LinuxSampler.
Thanks
Leigh
CREATE AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE JACK
CREATE AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE JACK
CREATE AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE JACK
CREATE AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE JACK
CREATE MIDI_INPUT_DEVICE ALSA
ADD CHANNEL
ADD CHANNEL
ADD CHANNEL
ADD CHANNEL
ADD CHANNEL
ADD CHANNEL
ADD CHANNEL
ADD CHANNEL
LOAD ENGINE GIG 0
LOAD ENGINE GIG 1
LOAD ENGINE GIG 2
LOAD ENGINE GIG 3
LOAD ENGINE GIG 4
LOAD ENGINE GIG 5
LOAD ENGINE GIG 6
LOAD ENGINE GIG 7
SET CHANNEL AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE 0 0
SET CHANNEL AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE 1 1
SET CHANNEL AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE 2 2
SET CHANNEL AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE 3 3
SET CHANNEL AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE 4 0
SET CHANNEL AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE 5 1
SET CHANNEL AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE 6 2
SET CHANNEL AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE 7 3
SET CHANNEL MIDI_INPUT_DEVICE 0 0
SET CHANNEL MIDI_INPUT_DEVICE 1 0
SET CHANNEL MIDI_INPUT_DEVICE 2 0
SET CHANNEL MIDI_INPUT_DEVICE 3 0
SET CHANNEL MIDI_INPUT_DEVICE 4 0
SET CHANNEL MIDI_INPUT_DEVICE 5 0
SET CHANNEL MIDI_INPUT_DEVICE 6 0
SET CHANNEL MIDI_INPUT_DEVICE 7 0
LOAD INSTRUMENT "/home/src/test/gig/dfh/cDFH.gig" 0 0
LOAD INSTRUMENT "/home/src/test/gig/dfh/cDFH.gig" 2 1
LOAD INSTRUMENT "/home/src/test/gig/dfh/cDFH.gig" 10 2
LOAD INSTRUMENT "/home/src/test/gig/dfh/cDFH.gig" 16 3
LOAD INSTRUMENT "/home/src/test/gig/dfh/rDFH.gig" 0 4
LOAD INSTRUMENT "/home/src/test/gig/dfh/rDFH.gig" 2 5
LOAD INSTRUMENT "/home/src/test/gig/dfh/rDFH.gig" 10 6
LOAD INSTRUMENT "/home/src/test/gig/dfh/rDFH.gig" 16 7
SET CHANNEL VOLUME 0 1.3
SET CHANNEL VOLUME 1 1.2
SET CHANNEL VOLUME 2 1.0
SET CHANNEL VOLUME 3 0.8
SET CHANNEL VOLUME 4 1.3
SET CHANNEL VOLUME 5 0.6
SET CHANNEL VOLUME 6 1.1
SET CHANNEL VOLUME 7 1.2
I hope that helps.
Kindest regards
Julien
--------
Music was my first love and it will be my last (John Miles)
======== FIND MY WEB-PROJECT AT: ========
http://ltsb.sourceforge.net
the Linux TextBased Studio guide
======= AND MY PERSONAL PAGES AT: =======
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12:47 a.m.
Hello Leigh!
I always drum live! :-) I'm a keyboard drummer, and I believe not too bad.
But as you can see, I only have one MIDI input driver created for
LinuxSampler. I think Linuxsampler is set to receive MIDI on all channels. I
guess you might just set it to receive data for your kit only on channel 10.
I simply use midi_router to get a nicer mapping, but you won't need that,
since you program and you have the sfz to map it directly. :-)
Hope that helps.
Kindly yours
Julien
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======= AND MY PERSONAL PAGES AT: =======
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