30 Dec
2010
30 Dec
'10
1:50 a.m.
I have a Dell Studio 1537 which has a 4 pin 1394 connector
I checked to see if my Ubuntu 10.10 upgrade would allow my Presonus
Firebox to work
which it allegedly does:
http://www.ffado.org/?q=node/33
but my system didn't recognize my Firebox after plugging it into my Dell
using a 4-pin to 6-pin cable
so of course I'm wondering if I need to buy an ExpressCard Firewire
adapter and if that would work
does anyone have any suggestions or experience with this before I trot
off to Fry's in search of said adpater?
30 Dec
30 Dec
2:33 a.m.
Hi,
I presume your aware that the 4 pin Firewire (1394) connector doesn't supply
power, and
you'll need to provide power seperate to the unit. (DC adapter)
Also, you sa "the system doesnt recorgnize" your FireBox, did you try start
JACK? Or what
did you do to try it out?
Also: what does the following command produce (prints out if your firewire
modules are loaded) :
lsmod | grep 1394
Cheers, -Harry
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 1:50 AM, Kim Cascone <kim(a)anechoicmedia.com> wrote:
I have a Dell Studio 1537 which has a 4 pin 1394
connector
I checked to see if my Ubuntu 10.10 upgrade would allow my Presonus Firebox
to work
which it allegedly does:
http://www.ffado.org/?q=node/33
but my system didn't recognize my Firebox after plugging it into my Dell
using a 4-pin to 6-pin cable
so of course I'm wondering if I need to buy an ExpressCard Firewire adapter
and if that would work
does anyone have any suggestions or experience with this before I trot off
to Fry's in search of said adpater?
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7:23 a.m.
On 12/30/2010 03:33 AM, Harry Van Haaren wrote:
Also: what does the following command produce (prints
out if your firewire
modules are loaded) :
lsmod | grep 1394
Ubuntu 10.10 uses the new JuJu stack by default so this command will
probably yield nothing. Haven't tried the new stack myself so I'm not
sure though. But it might be better to install the ffado-tools package
and run the ffado-diag command afterwards.
Best,
Jeremy
6:49 p.m.
On 12/29/2010 06:33 PM, Harry Van Haaren wrote:
Hi,
I presume your aware that the 4 pin Firewire (1394) connector doesn't
supply power, and
you'll need to provide power seperate to the unit. (DC adapter)
yep -- DC
connected via wall wart
Also, you sa "the system doesnt recorgnize" your FireBox, did you try
start JACK? Or what
did you do to try it out?
also yep - and nada
Also: what does the following command produce (prints out if your
firewire modules are loaded) :
lsmod | grep 1394
here are some commands with output:
--------------------------------------------------------------
lsmod | grep 'firewire\|1394'
xt_limit 1394 7
firewire_ohci 21042 0
firewire_core 46643 1 firewire_ohci
crc_itu_t 1383 1 firewire_core
======================
lspci | grep 1394
09:01.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller
(rev 05)
==================
sudo ffado-test ListDevices
-----------------------------------------------
FFADO test and diagnostic utility
Part of the FFADO project -- www.ffado.org
Version: 2.999.0-
(C) 2008, Daniel Wagner, Pieter Palmers
This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
-----------------------------------------------
=== 1394 PORT 0 ===
Node id GUID VendorId ModelId Vendor - Model
0 0x0000000000000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 Linux Firewire -
no message buffer overruns
==============================================
what is
Cheers, -Harry
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 1:50 AM, Kim Cascone <kim(a)anechoicmedia.com
<mailto:kim@anechoicmedia.com>> wrote:
I have a Dell Studio 1537 which has a 4 pin 1394 connector
I checked to see if my Ubuntu 10.10 upgrade would allow my
Presonus Firebox to work
which it allegedly does:
http://www.ffado.org/?q=node/33
but my system didn't recognize my Firebox after plugging it into
my Dell using a 4-pin to 6-pin cable
so of course I'm wondering if I need to buy an ExpressCard
Firewire adapter and if that would work
does anyone have any suggestions or experience with this before I
trot off to Fry's in search of said adpater?
_______________________________________________
Linux-audio-user mailing list
Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
<mailto:Linux-audio-user@lists.linuxaudio.org>
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7:10 p.m.
-----------------------------------------------
FFADO test and diagnostic utility
Part of the FFADO project -- www.ffado.org
Version: 2.999.0-
(C) 2008, Daniel Wagner, Pieter Palmers
This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
-----------------------------------------------
=== 1394 PORT 0 ===
Node id GUID VendorId ModelId Vendor - Model
0 0x0000000000000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 Linux Firewire -
no message buffer overruns
I presume you've installed the "standard" FFADO from the Ubuntu repo?
I've had trouble with JACK1 and that. I'm currently running JACK2 (version
1.9.6)
from "Frasten"'s PPA.
FFADO from the TangoStudio repo, version 2.0.1 - svn1856.
That combo runs fine, but not at extreme low-lat. (I've always had better
experience with JACK 1 for < 10 ms lat)
Cheers, -Harry
7:18 p.m.
On 12/30/2010 08:10 PM, Harry Van Haaren wrote:
I've had trouble with JACK1 and that. I'm currently running JACK2
(version 1.9.6)
from "Frasten"'s PPA.
FFADO from the TangoStudio repo, version 2.0.1 - svn1856.
That combo runs fine, but not at extreme low-lat. (I've always had
better experience with JACK 1 for < 10 ms lat)
Hmm sure you tested both on the
exact same system? JACK is not the only
factor when it comes to latency...
\r
8:44 p.m.
On 12/30/2010 11:10 AM, Harry Van Haaren wrote:
-----------------------------------------------
FFADO test and diagnostic utility
Part of the FFADO project -- www.ffado.org <http://www.ffado.org>
Version: 2.999.0-
(C) 2008, Daniel Wagner, Pieter Palmers
This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
-----------------------------------------------
=== 1394 PORT 0 ===
Node id GUID VendorId ModelId Vendor - Model
0 0x0000000000000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 Linux
Firewire -
no message buffer overruns
I presume you've installed the "standard" FFADO from the Ubuntu repo?
what is odd is that firewire audio/video is reported to work out of the
box on Ubuntu 10.10
and I don't want to upgrade to Jack2 since Synaptic wants to wipe all my
audio apps with the install
not sure why this is unless none of the apps support Jack2 in which case
I'll pass on installing it
I've had trouble with JACK1 and that. I'm currently running JACK2
(version 1.9.6)
from "Frasten"'s PPA.
FFADO from the TangoStudio repo, version 2.0.1 - svn1856.
That combo runs fine, but not at extreme low-lat. (I've always had
better experience with JACK 1 for < 10 ms lat)
I'm going to buy an
Expresscard -> Firewire adapter and see if that
works -- something about the 1394 connector on the Dell laptop makes me
suspicious for some reason
Cheers, -Harry
8:57 p.m.
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Kim Cascone <kim(a)anechoicmedia.com> wrote:
and I don't want to upgrade to Jack2 since
Synaptic wants to wipe all my
audio apps with the install
not sure why this is unless none of the apps support Jack2 in which case
I'll pass on installing it
apps do not support jack1 or jack2. they support jack. packaging that
makes a jack client depend on specifically jack2 or jack1 is
erroneous.
11:21 p.m.
On 12/30/2010 12:57 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Kim
Cascone<kim(a)anechoicmedia.com> wrote:
I see -- but why would installing Jack2 uninstall all my audio apps?
anyone hazard a guess?
and I don't want to upgrade to Jack2 since
Synaptic wants to wipe all my
audio apps with the install
not sure why this is unless none of the apps support Jack2 in which case
I'll pass on installing it
apps do not support jack1 or jack2. they support
jack. packaging that
makes a jack client depend on specifically jack2 or jack1 is
erroneous.
31 Dec
31 Dec
12:04 a.m.
Paul Davis wrote:
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Kim Cascone
<kim(a)anechoicmedia.com> wrote:
Given that it's Ubuntu: Probably++.
And I *like* Ubuntu. But it's getting on my nerves, so I plan to replace
it on the secondary desktop machine here. I'll keep it on my laptop -
it's a champ there - but AVLinux is going on the bigger box as soon as I
back up my data.
Best,
dp
I see -- but why would installing Jack2 uninstall
all my audio apps?
anyone hazard a guess?
bad packaging, probably.
10 a.m.
On 12/31/2010 01:04 AM, Dave Phillips wrote:
Paul Davis wrote:
At the end you can always blame Ubuntu :)
All the Ubuntu audio packages are coming from Debian... AVLinux is based
on Debian...
\r
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Kim Cascone
<kim(a)anechoicmedia.com>
wrote:
Given that it's Ubuntu: Probably++.
And I *like* Ubuntu. But it's getting on my nerves, so I plan to
replace it on the secondary desktop machine here. I'll keep it on my
laptop - it's a champ there - but AVLinux is going on the bigger box
as soon as I back up my data. I see -- but why would installing Jack2 uninstall
all my audio apps?
anyone hazard a guess?
bad packaging, probably.
12:27 a.m.
On 12/30/2010 03:49 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Kim
Cascone<kim(a)anechoicmedia.com> wrote:
OK -- I checked again and have
jackdmp 1.9.6
does this mean I have Jack2 installed?
confused
I see -- but why would installing Jack2 uninstall
all my audio apps?
anyone hazard a guess?
bad packaging, probably.
30 Dec
30 Dec
11:58 p.m.
Hmm - a Jack2 compiled with a different system library?
I switched from Jack1 to Jack2 quite awhile ago, and it didn't uninstall any audio
apps.
--
david
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
---- Kim Cascone <kim(a)anechoicmedia.com> wrote:
On 12/30/2010 12:57 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Kim
Cascone<kim(a)anechoicmedia.com> wrote:
I see -- but why would installing Jack2 uninstall all my audio apps?
anyone hazard a guess?
_______________________________________________
Linux-audio-user mailing list
Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user and I don't want to upgrade to Jack2 since
Synaptic wants to wipe all my
audio apps with the install
not sure why this is unless none of the apps support Jack2 in which case
I'll pass on installing it
apps do not support jack1 or jack2. they support
jack. packaging that
makes a jack client depend on specifically jack2 or jack1 is
erroneous.
31 Dec
31 Dec
5:45 a.m.
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 03:21:44PM -0800, Kim Cascone wrote:
On 12/30/2010 12:57 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
Because your audio apps depend on JACK being present. No JACK, no audio apps, away they
go.
It's been a while since I dealt with packaging, but IIRC the correct way to do this is
to have the JACK package and the JACK2 (jackdmp 1.92) package be "alternatives"
to each other.
This is, for example, how you can switch your MTA from Sendmail (eek!) to Postfix to ssmtp
to whatever, without everything that depends on it being nuked.
You might want to file a bug with Ubuntu. They dropped the ball on this one.
-ken
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Kim
Cascone<kim(a)anechoicmedia.com> wrote:
I see -- but why would installing Jack2 uninstall all my audio apps?
anyone hazard a guess?
and I don't want to upgrade to Jack2 since
Synaptic wants to wipe all my
audio apps with the install
not sure why this is unless none of the apps support Jack2 in which case
I'll pass on installing it
apps do not support jack1 or jack2. they support
jack. packaging that
makes a jack client depend on specifically jack2 or jack1 is
erroneous.
5:51 a.m.
On 31 December 2010 13:44, Ken Restivo <ken(a)restivo.org> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 03:21:44PM -0800, Kim Cascone
wrote:
The proper way is for both to provide a 'jack', which would be a
virtual package. Your apps should stay content as long as the 'jackd'
binary exists, i.e they should never explicitly depend on a 'jack1' or
a 'jack2'.
--
GPG/PGP ID: B42DDCAD
On 12/30/2010 12:57 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
Because your audio apps depend on JACK being present. No JACK, no audio apps, away they
go.
It's been a while since I dealt with packaging, but IIRC the correct way to do this
is to have the JACK package and the JACK2 (jackdmp 1.92) package be
"alternatives" to each other.
This is, for example, how you can switch your MTA from Sendmail (eek!) to Postfix to
ssmtp to whatever, without everything that depends on it being nuked.
You might want to file a bug with Ubuntu. They dropped the ball on this one. On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Kim
Cascone<kim(a)anechoicmedia.com> wrote:
I see -- but why would installing Jack2 uninstall all my audio apps?
anyone hazard a guess?
and I don't want to upgrade to Jack2 since
Synaptic wants to wipe all my
audio apps with the install
not sure why this is unless none of the apps support Jack2 in which case
I'll pass on installing it
apps do not support jack1 or jack2. they support
jack. packaging that
makes a jack client depend on specifically jack2 or jack1 is
erroneous.
12:24 a.m.
On 12/30/2010 11:10 AM, Harry Van Haaren wrote:
I presume you've installed the "standard" FFADO from the Ubuntu repo?
it is whatever Ubuntu 10.10 comes with --
I've had trouble with JACK1 and that. I'm currently running JACK2
(version 1.9.6)
from "Frasten"'s PPA.
OK I seem to have Jack2 rather than Jack1 (which I thought I had installed)
jackd2-firewire - 1.9.5~dfsg-19ubuntu1
and
jackd2 - 1.9.5~dfsg-19ubuntu1
libffado2 - 2.0.1+svn1856-1ubuntu1
and with some fiddling I'm now able to see the Firebox while connected
via the 1394 port on the Dell
sudo ffado-test ListDevices
-----------------------------------------------
FFADO test and diagnostic utility
Part of the FFADO project -- www.ffado.org
Version: 2.999.0-
(C) 2008, Daniel Wagner, Pieter Palmers
This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
-----------------------------------------------
=== 1394 PORT 0 ===
Node id GUID VendorId ModelId Vendor - Model
0 0x0000000000000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 Linux Firewire -
1 0x000a9200d0000293 0x00000A92 0x00010000 PreSonus -
PreSonus FIREBOX
no message buffer overruns
=========================
I set the driver to 'firewire' in Jack control
not sure which hw number but tried them all
but I'm not able to get Jack to recognize it
what am I doing wrong?
here is the output of Jack when trying to connect:
16:19:45.131 Startup script...
16:19:45.131 artsshell -q terminate
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server socket
jack server is not running or cannot be started
sh: artsshell: not found
16:19:45.548 Startup script terminated with exit status=32512.
16:19:45.548 JACK is starting...
16:19:45.549 /usr/bin/jackd -r -dfirewire -r44100 -p1024 -n5
16:19:45.558 JACK was started with PID=10035.
Cannot create thread 1 Operation not permitted
Cannot create thread 1 Operation not permitted
jackdmp 1.9.6
Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
Copyright 2004-2010 Grame.
jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
JACK server starting in non-realtime mode
Cannot lock down memory area (Cannot allocate memory)
Cannot create thread 1 Operation not permitted
ERROR: messagebuffer not initialized: 195902657946: (ffado.cpp)[ 92]
ffado_streaming_init: libffado 2.999.0- built Aug 11 2010 00:12:04
16:19:48.191 Could not connect to JACK server as client. - Overall
operation failed. - Server communication error. Please check the
messages window for more info.
libiec61883 warning: iec61883_cmp_create_p2p_output: Failed to set the
oPCR[0] plug for node 1.
firewire ERR: Could not start streaming threads
Cannot start driver
JackServer::Start() failed with -1
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server socket
Cannot connect to the server
Failed to start server
16:19:48.508 JACK was stopped with exit status=255.
16:19:48.509 Post-shutdown script...
16:19:48.509 killall jackd
jackd: no process found
16:19:48.924 Post-shutdown script terminated with exit status=256.
16:19:52.605 Could not connect to JACK server as client. - Overall
operation failed. - Unable to connect to server. Please check the
messages window for more info.
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server socket
jack server is not running or cannot be started
16:20:01.428 Could not connect to JACK server as client. - Overall
operation failed. - Unable to connect to server. Please check the
messages window for more info.
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server socket
jack server is not running or cannot be started
16:20:19.130 Could not connect to JACK server as client. - Overall
operation failed. - Unable to connect to server. Please check the
messages window for more info.
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server socket
jack server is not running or cannot be started
1:09 a.m.
16:19:45.549 /usr/bin/jackd -r -dfirewire -r44100
-p1024 -n5
16:19:45.558 JACK was started with PID=10035.
Cannot create thread 1 Operation not permitted
Cannot create thread 1 Operation not permitted
jackdmp 1.9.6
Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
Copyright 2004-2010 Grame.
jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
JACK server starting in non-realtime mode
Cannot lock down memory area (Cannot allocate memory)
Cannot create thread 1 Operation not permitted
ERROR: messagebuffer not initialized: 195902657946: (ffado.cpp)[ 92]
ffado_streaming_init: libffado 2.999.0- built Aug 11 2010 00:12:04
16:19:48.191 Could not connect to JACK server as client. - Overall
operation failed. - Server communication error. Please check the messages
window for more info.
libiec61883 warning: iec61883_cmp_create_p2p_output: Failed to set the
oPCR[0] plug for node 1.
firewire ERR: Could not start streaming threads
Cannot start driver
JackServer::Start() failed with -1
The messages there suggest that your not allowed access the device. As Roy
mentioned previously,
check /dev/fw0 and ensure your use has access:
try (as a normal user):
$ ls -l /dev/fw0
And check the permissions. Adding an "Audio" group is a good idea if you
don't have one already.
Alsp check your memlock settings, as this line looks quite suspicous to me:
Cannot lock down memory area (Cannot allocate memory)
All the best, -Harry
PS: 1.9.x is known as JACK 2. Yup you've got JACK 2 :-D
10:59 a.m.
On Fri, 2010-12-31 at 01:09 +0000, Harry Van Haaren wrote:
The messages there suggest that your not allowed access the device. As
Roy mentioned previously,
check /dev/fw0 and ensure your use has access:
try (as a normal user):
$ ls -l /dev/fw0
And check the permissions. Adding an "Audio" group is a good idea if
you don't have one already.
For a quick check that it's working run jarckd as root:
$ sudo jackd -d firewire
Setting permissions on the /dev/fw* files will only work temporarily.
When you unplug and replug your device the file(s) will be re-created
with the default (root) permissions. You need to create a udev rule.
Here is the file that I created:
$ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/60-firewire.rules
KERNEL=="fw*", GROUP="audio", MODE="0664"
This will cause the fw* files to be created with audio as group, and the
right permissions. Obviously you also need your user to be a member of
audio.
--
Roy Vegard
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