20 Jan
2008
20 Jan
'08
12:42 p.m.
A product release at the current Winter NAMM is Solid State Logic's
Pro-Convert. Transport your DAW projects to and from most everything
proprietary except (gulp) Sonar/Cakewalk. $700 smackeroos and you have it.
Looking at their supported formats was informative:
Steinberg has an XML format for Nuendo 3.x and Cubase SX3 and later
Apple has XML for Final Cut Pro 4, 5.x, Logic 8, Soundtrack Pro 2.
Vegas as text and XML formats.
Samplitude has a text format.
Besides no Cakewalk, NONE of the opensource DAWs and audio editors are
supported. AAF and AAF/XML are definitively ignored.
I need the $700 to pay my rent. We all need everyone to get together, merge
all those XMLs and make things easier for everyone. There may even be some
studios and individuals out there that would play a REASONABLE price for such
software and not bother to compile and futz with it!
20 Jan
20 Jan
12:59 p.m.
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 18:42 +0200, David Baron wrote:
We all need everyone to get together, merge
all those XMLs and make things easier for everyone.
No.
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Thorsten Wilms
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3:20 p.m.
On Sunday 20 January 2008 11:42, David Baron wrote:
I need the $700 to pay my rent. We all need everyone
to get
together, merge all those XMLs and make things easier for everyone.
I think building a tool to translate between all the open DAWs, and as
many of the proprietary ones as we can, would be more productive than
trying to establish an XML-based lingua franca that everyone has to
adhere to. It may work for an office document that there's
essentially only one correct way to render, but audio is way, way
different.
Not that I'm volunteering right now, since my audio recording needs
are basic enough that Audacity is overkill. But I have already
written a few scripts to do things I needed with Rosegarden files
that Rosegarden couldn't do (but probably can nowadays), so maybe
eventually I will.
Rob
4:17 p.m.
On Sunday 20 January 2008, Rob wrote:
On Sunday 20 January 2008 11:42, David Baron wrote:
A point. However, XML does not touch rendering--just says where to find
raw
data and what might be done to it. That $700 program also has dialogs to find
substitute plugins between the various architectures and such. This would be
the real work were there some XML standard. The thing about XML is it is easy
to parse. And most mixing decks, hard or soft, are isomorphic to a large
degree.
Should there be a "lingua franca", Steinberg's might end up being a
candidate
because of the wide support of their VST plugins. Steinberg/Yamaha might end
up publishing their "standard" (DTD) and provide a free (but
"non-free" in
our parlance) SDK to service it as they do for VST and ASIO. Most "standards"
come about in this manner rather than some slouch like myself calling for
them :-)
I need the $700 to pay my rent. We all need
everyone to get
together, merge all those XMLs and make things easier for everyone.
I think building a tool to translate between all the open DAWs, and as
many of the proprietary ones as we can, would be more productive than
trying to establish an XML-based lingua franca that everyone has to
adhere to. It may work for an office document that there's
essentially only one correct way to render, but audio is way, way
different.
Not that I'm volunteering right now, since my audio recording needs
are basic enough that Audacity is overkill. But I have already
written a few scripts to do things I needed with Rosegarden files
that Rosegarden couldn't do (but probably can nowadays), so maybe
eventually I will.
What are you doing with Rosegarden files? Some of us might want to share your
success :-)
4:50 p.m.
On Sunday 20 January 2008 15:17, David Baron wrote:
What are you doing with Rosegarden files? Some of us
might want to
share your success :-)
Well, I would use the past tense; this was on my old laptop a few
years ago.
At the time, I was doing some scaling and quantizing of note
velocities that RG couldn't do for me, and I knew that by the time I
figured out how to write what I wanted in C++, the version I wrote my
patch against would be obsolete (having had that happen with features
I hacked into gqview, gambas and a few other apps.) In all truth, RG
was probably the wrong tool to be using for the type of music I was
composing that week.
I don't know where the scripts are now (the last time I used one of
them seems to have been Sept. 2006, to max out all the velocities of
a MIDI file I wanted to use as a ringtone), but I'm sure if I looked
at an RG file again, at least some of it would come back to me.
Rob
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