Hallo, J_Zar hat gesagt: // J_Zar wrote: Some random remarks: I think, such polls need to be taken with a grain of salt: How many of the participiciants actually used different soundcards or at least tested them thoroughly? As the Soundblaster probably is the most widly used card, it's no wonder, that it turned up high on the list. However if it's indeed the best card for DJing still is an open question. Maya USB and Terratec USB are almost the same hardware, so from a Linux perspective, their votes also could be added together. (Of course, the price is different.) What is a "M-Audio Audiophile Series" card, USB or PCI? I guess, USB, as the PCI card is unusable for DJs, because it lacks enough channels for PF listening.

What has the SPU to do with anything DJ'ing?.

Really OT: Quite true.. But it's really sad to manage a community portal without any cash input to pay the efforts! Efforts are: time, code, service quality, bandwidth, webspace and so on... I must say although that Ads in the last 2 years gives me nothing at all (Google pays after 100$, and I gain no more than 40$!). And its hard enough to gain some donations to the cause (I had a donation of 30 EUR in 3 years and a half)... I suppose that service / contents of OpenJay.org is not good enough to gain donators attention. I'm working to improve it every day. But there is nothing bad to try to take back some money with ads... I think ;-P What about?

On 11/10/05, J_Zar <j_zar(a)openjay.org> wrote: This is a bit of rant.... I really wonder what people are looking for in a sound card for one. Any "openjay" should really be given this advice to start with. Buy a mixer. Any application that suggests it is a good idea to use the built in (i.e computer) mixer/eq/effects etc is well, in my opinion deluded at best. It's like suggesting to use the computer keyboard for playing a piano synth. Then what you look for on a card are 2 stereo outs to go to your mixer. I REALLY suggest some of the developers of the limited number of dj apps for linux really need to learn how to dj first, on standard equipment. By this i mean a mixer and sl1200's (or copy of if can't borrow/limited for cash) or if that's not possible, a worse option, a mixer and standard club cdj's. Dj apps really should be modeled on turntables or cdj's. Something proved to be useful. Anything you can't do on a turntable is pretty much pointless for djing. A pitch range of > 8% is not in any way a good idea. If i get outside of +-5% it would be a freak occurrence. I've actually used djplay http://djplay.sourceforge.net/ in a small gig. I had my mixer, 2 sl1200's but a very limited collection of vinyl as i was travelling internationally. I used djplay as a substitute for a cdj. It wasn't too bad for that, and much more suitable than the other apps i've used, but in no way to the standard of a cheap turntable/cdj. All linux dj apps seem to have problem with cueing well. By this i mean finding the first cue point, were to release from in normal vinyl speak. On a cdj or vinyl these are scrub over the beat you want and release the vinyl or press cue on a cdj, in time with the beat on the other deck. Try doing this on any linux dj app. Accuracy for pitch is also very limited. For correcting in the mix (after i had the tunes beatmatched and live, i.e both together) i would have to correct the vinyl copy not the djplay copy, as small pitch changes, i.e 0.1% smoothly is VERY hard with current linux dj apps. In regard to cdj/turntable focus, effects are useless. If people want to use effects, they can either route the output of the dj prog through om or jack-rack, or effects loop on there mixer through om or jack-rack. However neither of these are a good idea, as effects are really not a good idea in djing, unless you are really to the level where you can mix perfectly while playing with the effects. After 5 or 6 years of djing (vinyl) for minimum one hour per day, i am not to this stage. Layering accapellas, etc is much more fun. I'm happy to help with any djing questions, however i'm really wondering why none of this style of info is at openjay.org. If you want to put my suggestions there, feel free. end rant! Loki