[Fwd: Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus)] - Linux-audio-user

21 Sep 2013

I want to chime in a last time. See the forwarded message.

Please, talk to "mgavioli" and try to find a consensus.

I've got the impression that this is possible.

It's completely irrelevant what opinions we have got. _Neither anybodies
opinion, nor mine is relevant and nothing more I wanted to say_! As so
often: English isn't my native language, my English is completely
broken.

Is this understandable(?):

"mgavioli" claims something and a presumption of innocence is good
etiquette too. Isn't it? Or is it common sense to think the most worse
first?

Have a nice weekend!
Ralf

-------- Forwarded Message --------
From: Ralf Mardorf
To: linux-audio-dev(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
Subject: Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus)
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 11:52:05 +0200

On Sat, 2013-09-21 at 08:52 +0000, John Rigg wrote:
...
  On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 07:52:02AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
  It's completely impossible to be on Fons
site. When Fons has such a
 super-mind, why did he chose the GPL? Those simple-minded guy who forked
 Aeolus might have made a little mistake, but doesn't offend the licence.  
 Ralf, please stop this straw man argument about the GPL. Fons is understandably
 irritated by someone forking his project without prior discussion. It's a
 question of etiquette, not licence terms, as has been pointed out repeatedly
 in this thread. 

 It isn't difficult to find out that Aeolus is currently maintained; all it
 takes is a look at the README in the sources, which contains release dates.
 The 2007 copyright date which I think was mentioned earlier (I'm not going to
 re-read this whole sorry thread to confirm that) is the copyright date for
 GPL 3, not Aeolus. Again, this stuff is not difficult to check.

 Another point: copyright and licence are separate things. It is possible to
 violate a copyright while still complying with the GPL. Adding one's own
 copyright notice to someone else's original work without making substantive
 changes to the work may be such a violation (IANAL, so that's speculation).

 John 
Hi John,

I won't discuss this anymore, even while I've got arguments for
forgiving mistakes and finding a solution. Don't talk to me, talk to
"mgavioli" at https://github.com/mgavioli/oscAeolus/issues/1 , explain
him his mistake and see if he does offended/offences etiquette because
he's evil, or because he made a mistake and what's his opinion about the
"issue".

All those threads perhaps are completely useless, when just talking to
"mgavioli".

He made a mistake? Ok! And now? Making it a drama while it might be easy
to solve, by just talking to him? He might think he didn't made a
mistake, so he perhaps won't contact somebody, but he perhaps will reply
if Fons or you send a request.

Why all this discussion with speculations instead of talking to the
right person?

"mgavioli" claims something and a presumption of innocence is good
etiquette too. Isn't it? Or is it common sense to think the most worse
first?

Please, talk to "mgavioli" and try to find a consensus.

Regards,
Ralf