26 Nov
2008
26 Nov
'08
5:29 a.m.
Hi,
Yesterday I tried with a friend of mine to synchronize our computers with a
simple midi cable.
We just want to make music together, and synchronize, the transport AND the
tempo with a Master and a Slave.
After hours and hours of tests, we just made the transport sync works. But
we couldn't sync the tempo.
Someone told me on the #LAD IRC, about netjack, but it seems to be to "loud"
for what we want to do.
In fact, most of the softs can sync themself each other with JACK transport,
but can't send Midi Time Code to the midi out.
And when we even they can send Midi Time Code, it can't be sync with jack
transport on the other computer.
The top would be to find a soft which can act as a bridge between Midi Time
Code and Jack Transport. like for exemple :
First Computer : Seq24 -> Midi Time Code send to Midi out of the Sound card.
Second computer : -> Midi Time Code received in the Midi In -> bridge on
JackTransport -> and then each softs could be sync.
The other solution :
First Computer : Seq24 -> JACK Transport -> BRIDGEto Midi Time Code send to
Midi out of the Sound card.
Second computer : -> Midi Time Code received in the Midi In -> BRIDGE to
JACKTransport -> and then each softs could be sync.
Is someone knows a simple solution ?
I am a bit disapointed
Thank you for your help
Cheers,
Mysth-R
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27 Nov
27 Nov
7:26 a.m.
Hi,
I am Quite surprised that nobody ever tried to sync 2 computers by midi.
I performed some tests with one computer with rosegarden and a Hardware
sequencer remixerr (yamaha RM1-X).
In the RM1-X, I can choose sync mode between Intern (like a master), midi
and MTC. When I choose Midi, the tempo setting is not available anymore, and
the synchro with rosegarden is perfect (transport + tempo). increasing the
tempo in Rosegarden also increase the tempo in the RM1-X.
When I choose MTC on RM1-X, the transport start with rosegarden, but I
always can modify the tempo. And even if I choose the same tempo, there is
some time shift few minutes later.
In the other hand, When I make the RM1-X as a master, the transport is
synchro but Rosegarden keep is own tempo. So it is unusable.
I don't know very well the MTC protocol, but isn't there a way to sync the
Tempo with it ?
Greets,
Mysth-R
2008/11/26 Mysth-R <mysthr21(a)gmail.com>
Hi,
Yesterday I tried with a friend of mine to synchronize our computers with a
simple midi cable.
We just want to make music together, and synchronize, the transport AND the
tempo with a Master and a Slave.
After hours and hours of tests, we just made the transport sync works. But
we couldn't sync the tempo.
Someone told me on the #LAD IRC, about netjack, but it seems to be to
"loud" for what we want to do.
In fact, most of the softs can sync themself each other with JACK
transport, but can't send Midi Time Code to the midi out.
And when we even they can send Midi Time Code, it can't be sync with jack
transport on the other computer.
The top would be to find a soft which can act as a bridge between Midi Time
Code and Jack Transport. like for exemple :
First Computer : Seq24 -> Midi Time Code send to Midi out of the Sound
card.
Second computer : -> Midi Time Code received in the Midi In -> bridge on
JackTransport -> and then each softs could be sync.
The other solution :
First Computer : Seq24 -> JACK Transport -> BRIDGEto Midi Time Code send to
Midi out of the Sound card.
Second computer : -> Midi Time Code received in the Midi In -> BRIDGE to
JACKTransport -> and then each softs could be sync.
Is someone knows a simple solution ?
I am a bit disapointed
Thank you for your help
Cheers,
Mysth-R
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8:15 a.m.
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:26, Mysth-R <mysthr21(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I am Quite surprised that nobody ever tried to sync 2 computers by midi.
I performed some tests with one computer with rosegarden and a Hardware
sequencer remixerr (yamaha RM1-X).
In the RM1-X, I can choose sync mode between Intern (like a master), midi
and MTC. When I choose Midi, the tempo setting is not available anymore, and
the synchro with rosegarden is perfect (transport + tempo). increasing the
tempo in Rosegarden also increase the tempo in the RM1-X.
When I choose MTC on RM1-X, the transport start with rosegarden, but I
always can modify the tempo. And even if I choose the same tempo, there is
some time shift few minutes later.
In the other hand, When I make the RM1-X as a master, the transport is
synchro but Rosegarden keep is own tempo. So it is unusable.
I don't know very well the MTC protocol, but isn't there a way to sync the
Tempo with it ?
MTC is basically SMPTE time code over MIDI. So I guess the answer is no.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIDI_timecode
I guess what you're looking for is MIDI beat clock.
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8:22 a.m.
Yes, I think Midi Beat Clock is What I need...
I am just looking at Freewheeling, because it looks like it can sync with
ableton Live trough midi. So I guess it can send Midi Beat Clock...
2008/11/27 Anders Dahnielson <anders(a)dahnielson.com>
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:26, Mysth-R <mysthr21(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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Hi,
I am Quite surprised that nobody ever tried to sync 2 computers by midi.
I performed some tests with one computer with rosegarden and a Hardware
sequencer remixerr (yamaha RM1-X).
In the RM1-X, I can choose sync mode between Intern (like a master), midi
and MTC. When I choose Midi, the tempo setting is not available anymore, and
the synchro with rosegarden is perfect (transport + tempo). increasing the
tempo in Rosegarden also increase the tempo in the RM1-X.
When I choose MTC on RM1-X, the transport start with rosegarden, but I
always can modify the tempo. And even if I choose the same tempo, there is
some time shift few minutes later.
In the other hand, When I make the RM1-X as a master, the transport is
synchro but Rosegarden keep is own tempo. So it is unusable.
I don't know very well the MTC protocol, but isn't there a way to sync the
Tempo with it ?
MTC is basically SMPTE time code over MIDI. So I guess the answer is no.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIDI_timecode
I guess what you're looking for is MIDI beat clock.
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9:04 a.m.
Am Donnerstag 27 November 2008 schrieb Mysth-R:
Hi,
I am Quite surprised that nobody ever tried to sync 2 computers by midi.
I performed some tests with one computer with rosegarden and a Hardware
sequencer remixerr (yamaha RM1-X).
In the RM1-X, I can choose sync mode between Intern (like a master), midi
and MTC. When I choose Midi, the tempo setting is not available anymore, and
the synchro with rosegarden is perfect (transport + tempo). increasing the
tempo in Rosegarden also increase the tempo in the RM1-X.
When I choose MTC on RM1-X, the transport start with rosegarden, but I
always can modify the tempo. And even if I choose the same tempo, there is
some time shift few minutes later.
In the other hand, When I make the RM1-X as a master, the transport is
synchro but Rosegarden keep is own tempo. So it is unusable.
I don't know very well the MTC protocol, but isn't there a way to sync the
Tempo with it ?
it's been a while since i was using it, because my 8 track recorder's capstan
has died some years ago. This is what i remember, maybe others know better:
MTC is just a translation of SMPTE timecode (LTC) into MIDI protocol, which
means it has time information but not tempo information. If you want tempo
information you have to use MIDI clock and Start/Stop/Continue messages.
Which again has the disadvantage that a slaving sequencer can't jump to a
certain position in a song, you have to rewind and start from beginning.
To handle this, Song Position Pointer (SPP) is used along with MIDI clock.
Greets,
Mysth-R
Edgar
9:23 a.m.
2008/11/27 Edgar Aichinger <edogawa(a)aon.at>
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Am Donnerstag 27 November 2008 schrieb Mysth-R:
Ok thank you for sharing your experience. In fact I don't use Song mode, as
I want to play lives with patterns. So yes I jsut want to sync the tempo.
But I can't find any soft on linux that can do this job as slave or master.
I just tried freewheeling, but it can't act as a slave. So this is a problem
for me.
Other experiences or tips ?
Thank you
Mysth-R
Hi,
I am Quite surprised that nobody ever tried to sync 2 computers by midi.
I performed some tests with one computer with rosegarden and a Hardware
sequencer remixerr (yamaha RM1-X).
In the RM1-X, I can choose sync mode between Intern (like a master), midi
and MTC. When I choose Midi, the tempo setting is not available anymore,
and
the synchro with rosegarden is perfect (transport
+ tempo). increasing
the
tempo in Rosegarden also increase the tempo in
the RM1-X.
When I choose MTC on RM1-X, the transport start with rosegarden, but I
always can modify the tempo. And even if I choose the same tempo, there
is
some time shift few minutes later.
In the other hand, When I make the RM1-X as a master, the transport is
synchro but Rosegarden keep is own tempo. So it is unusable.
I don't know very well the MTC protocol, but isn't there a way to sync
the
Tempo with it ?
it's been a while since i was using it, because my 8 track recorder's
capstan
has died some years ago. This is what i remember, maybe others know better:
MTC is just a translation of SMPTE timecode (LTC) into MIDI protocol, which
means it has time information but not tempo information. If you want tempo
information you have to use MIDI clock and Start/Stop/Continue messages.
Which again has the disadvantage that a slaving sequencer can't jump to a
certain position in a song, you have to rewind and start from beginning.
To handle this, Song Position Pointer (SPP) is used along with MIDI clock.
Greets,
Mysth-R
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9:53 a.m.
Am Donnerstag 27 November 2008 schrieb Mysth-R:
Edgar
2008/11/27 Edgar Aichinger <edogawa(a)aon.at>
I just tried quickly to synchronize seq24(master) and rosegarden(slave) via
MIDI clock, and it worked. In rosegarden preferences, MIDI/MIDI sync tab,
set MIDI clock to "receive Start/Stop/Continue". In seq24 options, MIDI clock
tab, set the "record in" port of rosegarden (was 130:0 now in my case) to
On(Pos).
Hope this is what you need, good luck...
Am Donnerstag 27 November 2008 schrieb Mysth-R:
Ok thank you for sharing your experience. In fact I don't use Song mode, as
I want to play lives with patterns. So yes I jsut want to sync the tempo.
But I can't find any soft on linux that can do this job as slave or master.
I just tried freewheeling, but it can't act as a slave. So this is a problem
for me.
Other experiences or tips ?
Thank you
Mysth-R Hi,
I am Quite surprised that nobody ever tried to sync 2 computers by midi.
I performed some tests with one computer with rosegarden and a Hardware
sequencer remixerr (yamaha RM1-X).
In the RM1-X, I can choose sync mode between Intern (like a master), midi
and MTC. When I choose Midi, the tempo setting is not available anymore,
and
the synchro with rosegarden is perfect (transport
+ tempo). increasing
the
tempo in Rosegarden also increase the tempo in
the RM1-X.
When I choose MTC on RM1-X, the transport start with rosegarden, but I
always can modify the tempo. And even if I choose the same tempo, there
is
some time shift few minutes later.
In the other hand, When I make the RM1-X as a master, the transport is
synchro but Rosegarden keep is own tempo. So it is unusable.
I don't know very well the MTC protocol, but isn't there a way to sync
the
Tempo with it ?
it's been a while since i was using it, because my 8 track recorder's
capstan
has died some years ago. This is what i remember, maybe others know better:
MTC is just a translation of SMPTE timecode (LTC) into MIDI protocol, which
means it has time information but not tempo information. If you want tempo
information you have to use MIDI clock and Start/Stop/Continue messages.
Which again has the disadvantage that a slaving sequencer can't jump to a
certain position in a song, you have to rewind and start from beginning.
To handle this, Song Position Pointer (SPP) is used along with MIDI clock.
Greets,
Mysth-R
Edgar
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2008/11/27 Edgar Aichinger <edogawa(a)aon.at>
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Am Donnerstag 27 November 2008 schrieb Mysth-R:
Ok
thank you for sharing your experience. In fact I don't use Song mode, as
But when you change the tempo in seq24 does it change the tempo in
Rosegarden ?
2008/11/27 Edgar Aichinger
<edogawa(a)aon.at>
> Am Donnerstag 27 November 2008 schrieb Mysth-R:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am Quite surprised that nobody ever tried to sync 2 computers by
midi.
> > I performed some tests with one
computer with rosegarden and a
Hardware
> > sequencer remixerr (yamaha RM1-X).
> >
> > In the RM1-X, I can choose sync mode between Intern (like a master),
midi
> > and MTC. When I choose Midi, the tempo
setting is not available
anymore,
> and
> > the synchro with rosegarden is perfect (transport + tempo).
increasing
> the
> > tempo in Rosegarden also increase the tempo in the RM1-X.
> >
> > When I choose MTC on RM1-X, the transport start with rosegarden, but
I
> > always can modify the tempo. And even
if I choose the same tempo,
there
> is
> > some time shift few minutes later.
> >
> > In the other hand, When I make the RM1-X as a master, the transport
is
> > synchro but Rosegarden keep is own
tempo. So it is unusable.
> >
> >
> > I don't know very well the MTC protocol, but isn't there a way to
sync
> the
> > Tempo with it ?
>
> it's been a while since i was using it, because my 8 track recorder's
> capstan
> has died some years ago. This is what i remember, maybe others know
better:
>
> MTC is just a translation of SMPTE timecode (LTC) into MIDI protocol,
which
> means it has time information but not tempo
information. If you want
tempo
> information you have to use MIDI clock and
Start/Stop/Continue
messages.
> Which again has the disadvantage that a
slaving sequencer can't jump to
a
> certain position in a song, you have to
rewind and start from
beginning.
> To handle this, Song Position Pointer (SPP)
is used along with MIDI
clock.
I want to play lives with patterns. So yes I jsut
want to sync the tempo.
But I can't find any soft on linux that can do this job as slave or
master.
I just tried freewheeling, but it can't act
as a slave. So this is a
problem
for me.
Other experiences or tips ?
Thank you
Mysth-R
I just tried quickly to synchronize seq24(master) and rosegarden(slave) via
MIDI clock, and it worked. In rosegarden preferences, MIDI/MIDI sync tab,
set MIDI clock to "receive Start/Stop/Continue". In seq24 options, MIDI
clock
tab, set the "record in" port of rosegarden (was 130:0 now in my case) to
On(Pos).
Hope this is what you need, good luck...
Greets,
Mysth-R
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2008/11/27 Edgar Aichinger <edogawa(a)aon.at>
Am Donnerstag 27 November 2008 schrieb Mysth-R:
Well, it's the same here ... :( damn !
nobody thought about implementing this function in a software on linux ??
what a pity...
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But when you change the tempo in seq24 does it
change the tempo in
Rosegarden ?
er... no :( it seems RG only listens to start/stop/continue (just like
the name of the setting suggests...)
Sorry,
Edgar
3:33 p.m.
Am Donnerstag 27 November 2008 schrieben Sie:
2008/11/27 Edgar Aichinger <edogawa(a)aon.at>
I don't know really... as I said, I didn't need to sync anything external
during the last few years so I didn't care to look for that feature.
But I do know that MIDI clock send and receive has been implemented in ardour3
svn recently. I don't have the time to search which other apps might support
it, sorry... as always, google is your friend :)
Edgar
Am Donnerstag 27 November 2008 schrieb Mysth-R:
Well, it's the same here ... :( damn !
nobody thought about implementing this function in a software on linux ??
what a pity...
But when you change the tempo in seq24 does it
change the tempo in
Rosegarden ?
er... no :( it seems RG only listens to start/stop/continue (just like
the name of the setting suggests...)
Sorry,
Edgar
28 Nov
28 Nov
6:10 a.m.
2008/11/27 Edgar Aichinger <edogawa(a)aon.at>
Am Donnerstag 27 November 2008 schrieben Sie:
Ok thank you for your help. But using Ardour just to syncrhonize Two
computers using seq24, is just like killing a mosquito with an atomik bomb !
I would just need an software where I could choose slave or master,
adjusting the tempo (in the case of master) and send/recevive midi beat
clock and Jack transport.
If any kind developper listen to me .... ;-D
Cheers,
Mysth-R
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2008/11/27 Edgar Aichinger
<edogawa(a)aon.at>
I don't know really... as I said, I didn't need to sync anything external
during the last few years so I didn't care to look for that feature.
But I do know that MIDI clock send and receive has been implemented in
ardour3
svn recently. I don't have the time to search which other apps might
support
it, sorry... as always, google is your friend :)
Am Donnerstag 27 November 2008 schrieb Mysth-R:
Well, it's the same here ... :( damn !
nobody thought about implementing this function in a software on linux ??
what a pity...
But when you change the tempo in seq24 does it
change the tempo in
Rosegarden ?
er... no :( it seems RG only listens to start/stop/continue (just like
the name of the setting suggests...)
Sorry,
Edgar
8:36 a.m.
Am Freitag 28 November 2008 schrieb Mysth-R:
Hm, I just found this, looks like it should do what you want (it claims to be
able to act as MIDI clock master or slave):
http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KMidiTracker?content=11141
ah, the DL link there doesn't work, but i found the tar.bz2 here:
http://www.sourcefiles.org/Multimedia/MIDI/Sequencers/kmiditracker-0.5.13.t…
good luck,
Edgar
I don't
know really... as I said, I didn't need to sync anything external
during the last few years so I didn't care to look for that feature.
But I do know that MIDI clock send and receive has been implemented in
ardour3
svn recently. I don't have the time to search which other apps might
support
it, sorry... as always, google is your friend :)
Ok thank you for your help. But using Ardour just to syncrhonize Two
computers using seq24, is just like killing a mosquito with an atomik bomb !
I would just need an software where I could choose slave or master,
adjusting the tempo (in the case of master) and send/recevive midi beat
clock and Jack transport.
If any kind developper listen to me .... ;-D
Cheers,
Mysth-R
2:20 p.m.
Yes thank you. It does ... but when I use kmiditracker as a slave, the tempo
change every time, and it is not very synchro ... but yes, this is something
like that, that I am looking for.
The top of the top would be hacking Seq24 and add this feature. But I am not
a C or C++ developper ...
I am trying others trackers to see. But I am not so confortable with this
kind of sequencer.
2008/11/28 Edgar Aichinger <edogawa(a)aon.at>
Am Freitag 28 November 2008 schrieb Mysth-R:
bomb !
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> I don't know really... as I said, I
didn't need to sync anything
external
during
the last few years so I didn't care to look for that feature.
But I do know that MIDI clock send and receive has been implemented in
ardour3
svn recently. I don't have the time to search which other apps might
support
it, sorry... as always, google is your friend :)
Ok thank you for your help. But using Ardour just to syncrhonize Two
computers using seq24, is just like killing a mosquito with an atomik I would just need an software where I could
choose slave or master,
adjusting the tempo (in the case of master) and send/recevive midi beat
clock and Jack transport.
If any kind developper listen to me .... ;-D
Cheers,
Mysth-R
Hm, I just found this, looks like it should do what you want (it claims to
be
able to act as MIDI clock master or slave):
http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KMidiTracker?content=11141
ah, the DL link there doesn't work, but i found the tar.bz2 here:
http://www.sourcefiles.org/Multimedia/MIDI/Sequencers/kmiditracker-0.5.13.t…
good luck,
Edgar
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27 Nov
11:58 a.m.
Mysth-R wrote:
I am Quite surprised that nobody ever tried to sync 2 computers by midi.
I've tested slaving Ardour on one machine to MTC from Sequencer Plus
running in DOSemu on another machine. I've also done the same on a
single machine.
IIRC the arrangement worked well, but I was merely testing whether it
could be done at all, I didn't really push things.
Best,
dp
30 Nov
30 Nov
3:18 a.m.
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:29:15AM +0100, Mysth-R wrote:
Hi,
Yesterday I tried with a friend of mine to synchronize our computers with a
simple midi cable.
We just want to make music together, and synchronize, the transport AND the
tempo with a Master and a Slave.
After hours and hours of tests, we just made the transport sync works. But
we couldn't sync the tempo.
Someone told me on the #LAD IRC, about netjack, but it seems to be to "loud"
for what we want to do.
can you explain loud ?
In fact, most of the softs can sync themself each other with JACK transport,
but can't send Midi Time Code to the midi out.
so why not use netjack ?
grab current jack release and go.
it now works over wireless. use celt codec to
reduce bitrate. should give you 4channels in both directions easiely.
and i guess you only want 8 channels in one direction.
And when we even they can send Midi Time Code, it
can't be sync with jack
transport on the other computer.
The top would be to find a soft which can act as a bridge between Midi Time
Code and Jack Transport. like for exemple :
First Computer : Seq24 -> Midi Time Code send to Midi out of the Sound card.
Second computer : -> Midi Time Code received in the Midi In -> bridge on
JackTransport -> and then each softs could be sync.
The other solution :
First Computer : Seq24 -> JACK Transport -> BRIDGEto Midi Time Code send to
Midi out of the Sound card.
Second computer : -> Midi Time Code received in the Midi In -> BRIDGE to
JACKTransport -> and then each softs could be sync.
Is someone knows a simple solution ?
I am a bit disapointed
netjack.
its even sample accurate.
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3 Dec
3 Dec
8:03 a.m.
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:13:38 +0100
torbenh(a)gmx.de wrote:
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:29:15AM +0100, Mysth-R
wrote:
But is the lossy codec (celt) a good idea for a LAN?
Hi,
Yesterday I tried with a friend of mine to synchronize our
computers with a simple midi cable.
We just want to make music together, and synchronize, the transport
AND the tempo with a Master and a Slave.
After hours and hours of tests, we just made the transport sync
works. But we couldn't sync the tempo.
Someone told me on the #LAD IRC, about netjack, but it seems to be
to "loud" for what we want to do.
can you explain loud ?
In fact, most of the softs can sync themself each other with JACK
transport, but can't send Midi Time Code to the midi out.
so why not use netjack ?
grab current jack release and go.
it now works over wireless. use celt codec to
reduce bitrate. should give you 4channels in both directions easiely.
and i guess you only want 8 channels in one direction.
And when we even they can send Midi Time Code, it
can't be sync
with jack transport on the other computer.
The top would be to find a soft which can act as a bridge between
Midi Time Code and Jack Transport. like for exemple :
First Computer : Seq24 -> Midi Time Code send to Midi out of the
Sound card. Second computer : -> Midi Time Code received in the
Midi In -> bridge on JackTransport -> and then each softs could be
sync.
The other solution :
First Computer : Seq24 -> JACK Transport -> BRIDGEto Midi Time Code
send to Midi out of the Sound card.
Second computer : -> Midi Time Code received in the Midi In ->
BRIDGE to JACKTransport -> and then each softs could be sync.
Is someone knows a simple solution ?
I am a bit disapointed
netjack.
its even sample accurate. 
12:12 p.m.
hollunder(a)gmx.at schrieb:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:13:38 +0100
torbenh(a)gmx.de wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:29:15AM +0100, Mysth-R wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yesterday I tried with a friend of mine to synchronize our
>> computers with a simple midi cable.
Try aseqnet:
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/man/man1/aseqnet.1.html
it works just great and you dont even need a MIDI-cable.
best regs
HZN
12:55 p.m.
2008/12/3 Hartmut Noack <zettberlin(a)linuxuse.de>
hollunder(a)gmx.at schrieb:
I think the problem always the same. It should be ok for the
transport, but
not for the tempo.
Seq24 and rosegarden do not accpet to be slave (tempo speaking).
Museseq-2.0 has the possibility to be midi slave but it doesn't work on my
computer. This is a developpement version. so I guess this feature is broken
for now.
Cheers,
Mysth-R
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:13:38 +0100
torbenh(a)gmx.de wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:29:15AM +0100, Mysth-R wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yesterday I tried with a friend of mine to synchronize our
>> computers with a simple midi cable.
Try aseqnet:
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/man/man1/aseqnet.1.html
it works just great and you dont even need a MIDI-cable.
Did you try it ?
1:25 p.m.
Mysth-R schrieb:
2008/12/3 Hartmut Noack
<zettberlin(a)linuxuse.de>
I think the problem always the same. It should be ok
for the transport, but
not for the tempo.
Seq24 and rosegarden do not accpet to be slave (tempo speaking).
Both do for me (though RG not very stable) if they run as slave and
Ardour is master... Seq24 follows tempo change automation in Ardour
seamlessly...
best regs
HZN
2:31 p.m.
2008/12/3 Hartmut Noack <zettberlin(a)linuxuse.de>
Mysth-R schrieb:
Ok thank you for sharing your experience. So I will try aseqnet.
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2008/12/3 Hartmut Noack
<zettberlin(a)linuxuse.de>
I think the problem always the same. It should be ok for the transport,
but
not for the tempo.
Seq24 and rosegarden do not accpet to be slave (tempo speaking).
Both do for me (though RG not very stable) if they run as slave and Ardour
is master... Seq24 follows tempo change automation in Ardour seamlessly...
best regs
HZN
11 Dec
11 Dec
8:09 a.m.
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 01:03:48PM +0100, hollunder(a)gmx.at wrote:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:13:38 +0100
torbenh(a)gmx.de wrote:
But is the lossy codec (celt) a good idea for a LAN?
of course its not.
i was talking about wireless here, which is losing packets,
and celt can compensate for packet loss.
celt-0.6.0 at 512kbit/s should be the way to go for such setups.
i dont think that the quality reduction, will be audible, at such
bitrate. And the packet losses would only degrade quality,
but thats better than clicks and pops due to lost packets.
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3 Dec
3 Dec
9:02 a.m.
Hi,
Sorry for my late answer
2008/11/30 <torbenh(a)gmx.de>
I understood that the slave computer using netjack backend can't use audio,
or through alsa_out and alsa_in.
I own a firewire sound card, so I think this is not possible for me... is it
?
By the way, Seq24 developpement is bakc, and I saw that midi slave feature
is planned. So ... I just have to be patient.
Cheers,
Mysth-R
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On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:29:15AM +0100, Mysth-R
wrote:
Sorry for my bad english. I meant loud in the sense of to complicated,
difficult. Because it is so simple with a midi cable. You wire it, and press
play. and everything is ok.
Hi,
Yesterday I tried with a friend of mine to synchronize our computers with
a
simple midi cable.
We just want to make music together, and synchronize, the transport AND
the
tempo with a Master and a Slave.
After hours and hours of tests, we just made the transport sync works.
But
we couldn't sync the tempo.
Someone told me on the #LAD IRC, about netjack, but it seems to be to
"loud"
for what we want to do.
can you explain loud ?
In fact, most of the softs can sync themself each other with JACK
transport,
but can't send Midi Time Code to the midi
out.
so why not use netjack ?
grab current jack release and go.
it now works over wireless. use celt codec to
reduce bitrate. should give you 4channels in both directions easiely.
and i guess you only want 8 channels in one direction.
Does it offers good performances ? latencies speaking ?
I can't really imagine how it works. and how to implement this solution.
And when we even they can send Midi Time Code, it
can't be sync with jack
transport on the other computer.
The top would be to find a soft which can act as a bridge between Midi
Time
Code and Jack Transport. like for exemple :
First Computer : Seq24 -> Midi Time Code send to Midi out of the Sound
card.
Second computer : -> Midi Time Code received
in the Midi In -> bridge on
JackTransport -> and then each softs could be sync.
The other solution :
First Computer : Seq24 -> JACK Transport -> BRIDGEto Midi Time Code send
to
Midi out of the Sound card.
Second computer : -> Midi Time Code received in the Midi In -> BRIDGE to
JACKTransport -> and then each softs could be sync.
Is someone knows a simple solution ?
I am a bit disapointed
netjack.
its even sample accurate.
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