11 Dec
2017
11 Dec
'17
1:36 a.m.
Pianoteq, the French makers of the famous piano modelings will release
next week an organ modeling. The blurb says:
"ORGANTEQ Alpha is a small organ with a keyboard range of 4 octaves
(from F1 to F5) and with 2 stops: a Flute 8' and a Flute 4' (octave).
It is provided in standalone mode only and should be regarded as a
foretaste of a more advanced commercial version in development, due to
be released during 2018."
11 Dec
11 Dec
1:48 a.m.
On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 7:36 PM, jonetsu <jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com> wrote:
Pianoteq, the French makers of the famous piano
modelings will release
next week an organ modeling. The blurb says:
"ORGANTEQ Alpha is a small organ with a keyboard range of 4 octaves
(from F1 to F5) and with 2 stops: a Flute 8' and a Flute 4' (octave).
It is provided in standalone mode only and should be regarded as a
foretaste of a more advanced commercial version in development, due to
be released during 2018."
we already have aeolus :)
10:52 a.m.
Paul Davis <paul-dDzkXPnfpdxaomM2pvQuqZqQE7yCjDx5(a)public.gmane.org>
writes:
On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 7:36 PM, jonetsu
<jonetsu-R6A+fiHC8nRWk0Htik3J/w(a)public.gmane.org> wrote:
Like, well, here: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k66X17S06uI>. That's
using a Midi accordion as controller. Sorry for the quality of the
playing: this was just an answer for someone asking how to arrange
something like "Silent Night" simplistically for accordion, so it was
just done off the cuff. But it does show that Aeolus works nicely with
that kind of controller.
--
David Kastrup
Pianoteq, the French makers of the famous piano
modelings will release
next week an organ modeling. The blurb says:
"ORGANTEQ Alpha is a small organ with a keyboard range of 4 octaves
(from F1 to F5) and with 2 stops: a Flute 8' and a Flute 4' (octave).
It is provided in standalone mode only and should be regarded as a
foretaste of a more advanced commercial version in development, due to
be released during 2018."
we already have aeolus :) 
5:30 p.m.
I wonder how it would work with a breath controller like an EWI?
On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 2:52 AM, David Kastrup <dak(a)gnu.org> wrote:
Paul Davis
<paul-dDzkXPnfpdxaomM2pvQuqZqQE7yCjDx5(a)public.gmane.org>
writes:
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On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 7:36 PM, jonetsu
<jonetsu-R6A+fiHC8nRWk0Htik3J/w(a)public.gmane.org> wrote:
Like, well, here: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k66X17S06uI>. That's
using a Midi accordion as controller. Sorry for the quality of the
playing: this was just an answer for someone asking how to arrange
something like "Silent Night" simplistically for accordion, so it was
just done off the cuff. But it does show that Aeolus works nicely with
that kind of controller.
--
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Pianoteq, the French makers of the famous piano
modelings will release
next week an organ modeling. The blurb says:
"ORGANTEQ Alpha is a small organ with a keyboard range of 4 octaves
(from F1 to F5) and with 2 stops: a Flute 8' and a Flute 4' (octave).
It is provided in standalone mode only and should be regarded as a
foretaste of a more advanced commercial version in development, due to
be released during 2018."
we already have aeolus :)
6:14 p.m.
Bob van der Poel <bob(a)mellowood.ca> writes:
Well, I found using bellows pressure for Schweller quite unsatisfactory
and switched off pressure sensitivity eventually. I'd expect a breath
controller not to fare better in that regard, and as general controller
it would be single-manual and monophonic, wouldn't it?
So I expect nothing overwhelming here unless you find one-fingered organ
playing interesting. Ok ok, Bach turned the "monophonic" prelude of the
solo violin partita 3 into an organ prelude, but even on organ you'd
probably want to play some phrases over more than a single manual.
--
David Kastrup
On Mon, Dec
11, 2017 at 2:52 AM, David Kastrup <dak(a)gnu.org> wrote:
> Paul Davis <paul-dDzkXPnfpdxaomM2pvQuqZqQE7yCjDx5(a)public.gmane.org>
> writes:
>
> > we already have aeolus :)
>
> Like, well, here: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k66X17S06uI>. That's
> using a Midi accordion as controller. Sorry for the quality of the
> playing: this was just an answer for someone asking how to arrange
> something like "Silent Night" simplistically for accordion, so it was
> just done off the cuff. But it does show that Aeolus works nicely with
> that kind of controller.
I wonder how it would work with a breath controller like an EWI?
7:09 p.m.
On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 10:14 AM, David Kastrup <dak(a)gnu.org> wrote:
Bob van der Poel <bob(a)mellowood.ca> writes:
Well, I found using bellows pressure for Schweller quite unsatisfactory
and switched off pressure sensitivity eventually. I'd expect a breath
controller not to fare better in that regard, and as general controller
it would be single-manual and monophonic, wouldn't it?
So I expect nothing overwhelming here unless you find one-fingered organ
playing interesting. Ok ok, Bach turned the "monophonic" prelude of the
solo violin partita 3 into an organ prelude, but even on organ you'd
probably want to play some phrases over more than a single manual.
An EWI can play 2 notes at a time :) It has a "octave" switch which sets
it
so a 2nd note, one octave below, sounds at the same time. And a "sustained
note" thing which holds the last note played when you play a 2nd one, until
there is a break in the phrase. The latter is actually quite interesting,
but takes a lot more skill than I have to sound really good.
Monophonic Bach isn't all bad. Remember, the cello concerto (one of the
most beautiful pieces ever written) is, mostly, monophonic :)
But, I figured that the breath controller CC would not be supported. But,
since it's just software, maybe in a future release?
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**** Listen to my FREE CD at http://www.mellowood.ca/music/cedars ****
Bob van der Poel ** Wynndel, British Columbia, CANADA **
EMAIL: bob(a)mellowood.ca
WWW: http://www.mellowood.ca
> On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 2:52 AM, David
Kastrup <dak(a)gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> Paul Davis <paul-dDzkXPnfpdxaomM2pvQuqZqQE7yCjDx5(a)public.gmane.org>
>> writes:
>>
>> > we already have aeolus :)
>>
>> Like, well, here: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k66X17S06uI>.
That's
> using
a Midi accordion as controller. Sorry for the quality of the
> playing: this was just an answer for someone asking how to arrange
> something like "Silent Night" simplistically for accordion, so it was
> just done off the cuff. But it does show that Aeolus works nicely with
> that kind of controller.
I wonder how it would work with a breath controller like an EWI?
7:28 p.m.
Bob van der Poel <bob-8hHJtrpVMJ/qJdGyAr2GoA(a)public.gmane.org> writes:
[Aeolus]
An EWI can play 2 notes at a time :) It has a
"octave" switch which sets it
so a 2nd note, one octave below, sounds at the same time. And a "sustained
note" thing which holds the last note played when you play a 2nd one, until
there is a break in the phrase. The latter is actually quite interesting,
but takes a lot more skill than I have to sound really good.
Monophonic Bach isn't all bad. Remember, the cello concerto (one of the
most beautiful pieces ever written) is, mostly, monophonic :)
But, I figured that the breath controller CC would not be supported. But,
since it's just software, maybe in a future release?
There is nothing to map it to apart from tremolo/schweller, and the
results were not good for accordion.
For what it's worth, I don't connect Aeolus with the Roland FR-1b
directly since their various controls (particularly registration) don't
match too well. Instead, I have a mididings script I call "Olifant"
(since it makes the Roland loud) that maps controls as I find suitable.
If you want to, I can post it (again I think). There are various shell
scripts calling it and connecting stuff depending on the soundcards I
actually use for connecting stuff up.
--
David Kastrup
7:37 p.m.
Bob van der Poel <bob(a)mellowood.ca> writes:
Monophonic Bach isn't all bad. Remember, the cello
concerto (one of
the most beautiful pieces ever written) is, mostly, monophonic :)
A cello concerto would hardly be monophonic, but I cannot think of any
from "the" Bach (J.S.). Are you thinking of the cello suites?
I imagine they would give a breath controller (or actual wind
instrument) a run for their money. I play them on chromatic button
accordion (where a hand span of two octaves is still comfortable) and
they are a good reach. I'd imagine them to involve a lot of jumping
around on a piano keyboard, and a strenuous mess on wind instruments
(where broken chords/phrases over large intervals like that require much
more frequent overblowing switches than usual).
But, I figured that the breath controller CC would not
be
supported. But, since it's just software, maybe in a future release?
What do you _want_ it to do? Chances are that one can rig something up
that does it outside of Aeolus.
--
David Kastrup
7:57 p.m.
On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 11:36 AM, David Kastrup <dak(a)gnu.org> wrote:
"that's interesting" question.
--
Bob van der Poel <bob(a)mellowood.ca> writes:
monophonic
concerto would be ... ummm .. interesting???
I imagine they would give a breath controller (or actual wind
Monophonic Bach isn't all bad. Remember, the
cello concerto (one of
the most beautiful pieces ever written) is, mostly, monophonic :)
A cello concerto would hardly be monophonic, but I cannot think of any
from "the" Bach (J.S.). Are you thinking of the cello suites?
Hand hits forehead ... of course I meant the cello suites. Yeah, a instrument) a run for their money. I play them on
chromatic button
accordion (where a hand span of two octaves is still comfortable) and
they are a good reach. I'd imagine them to involve a lot of jumping
around on a piano keyboard, and a strenuous mess on wind instruments
(where broken chords/phrases over large intervals like that require much
more frequent overblowing switches than usual).
I've tried to play a few transcriptions on saxophone. And, listened to a
few as well. I certainly sound awful trying it. And folks much better than
I am don't sound all that great either. Mind you, I'm using to recordings
of spectacular cellists playing it :)
But, I figured
that the breath controller CC would not be
supported. But, since it's just software, maybe in a future release?
What do you _want_ it to do? Chances are that one can rig something up
that does it outside of Aeolus.
I don't really have the time these days to do much with it. More of a
David Kastrup
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