On Sat, 20 Aug, 2005 at 10:53PM -0400, davidrclark(a)earthlink.net spake thus: I hope they do. It was intentional! I want a really nice ladspa compressor for doing over-the-top stuff like this without too much ugliness, but SC4 has to do. Try: http://blog.dis-dot-dat.net/2005/05/music.html I do everything in cheesetracker, with jamin applied afterwards to even it all up. I try using other things, like muse, but I miss the low-level sample paradigm of tracking. Of course, there are things that I can't do with a tracker that I could do in muse, but since I grew up tracking, I just live without them. James -- "I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated Development That' to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb. Thank you." (By Vance Petree, Virginia Power)