21 Sep
2010
21 Sep
'10
7:34 p.m.
Hi
I just bought a pair of two older Roland VSR-880 to record my band
during rehearse , I'm gonna use it with an analog mixer, but I would be
pleased to be able to feed Ardour with some of the recordings too, but
the only way to do it digital is through the R-bus which is a Roland
thing, but i found this device
http://www.thomann.de/gb/presonus_vfire.htm and wonder if anyone here
succeeded to install the device on Linux ?
Maybe I used the wrong keywords but I can't find anything about it on
Google.
Tanks in advantage.
/Sv-e
22 Sep
22 Sep
4:13 a.m.
On 09/21/2010 07:34 PM, Svend-Erik Kjær Madsen wrote:
Hi
I just bought a pair of two older Roland VSR-880 to record my band
during rehearse , I'm gonna use it with an analog mixer, but I would be
pleased to be able to feed Ardour with some of the recordings too, but
the only way to do it digital is through the R-bus which is a Roland
thing, but i found this device
http://www.thomann.de/gb/presonus_vfire.htm and wonder if anyone here
succeeded to install the device on Linux ?
Maybe I used the wrong keywords but I can't find anything about it on
Google.
if you can find out whether it uses a DICE or BEBOP chip, then there's a
chance it might run with ffado.
i didn't say this, but you can always order the thing, fiddle away for a
week and then return it in "as-new" condition with a full refund.
6:13 a.m.
Might be better to contact PreSonus first and ask them if it's BeBop
and or FFADO to see if it might work before dropping your hard earned
money on it.
Also make sure that you do all the firmware updates on the VSR-880's
from the Roland website so that when you do connect an RPC/R-BUS
interface up to it, that it will properly see the connection. Older
firmware will either not see anything or only one port.
Other I/O that work with the R-Bus interface:
Roland RPC-1 PCI Card
Edirol DA-2496 PCI Card
M-Audio Delta R-BUS (this is the Envy24 chip which is already supported
by ALSA), only thing is you'd have to get two of them and daisy chain
them to get the 16 channels. Cards would sync via external SPDIF (out of
one into the other).
Another option would be to get an R-BUS to ADAT converter, Roland made
these, DIF-AT or DIF-AT24 (little black boxes), look on ebay. Then you
can go into a sound card or 1394 interface that supports multiple ADAT
input ports.
On 9/21/2010 7:13 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
On 09/21/2010 07:34 PM, Svend-Erik Kjær Madsen wrote:
Hi
I just bought a pair of two older Roland VSR-880 to record my band
during rehearse , I'm gonna use it with an analog mixer, but I would be
pleased to be able to feed Ardour with some of the recordings too, but
the only way to do it digital is through the R-bus which is a Roland
thing, but i found this device
http://www.thomann.de/gb/presonus_vfire.htm and wonder if anyone here
succeeded to install the device on Linux ?
Maybe I used the wrong keywords but I can't find anything about it on
Google.
if you can find out whether it uses a DICE or BEBOP chip, then there's
a chance it might run with ffado.
i didn't say this, but you can always order the thing, fiddle away for
a week and then return it in "as-new" condition with a full refund.
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12:09 p.m.
Den 22-09-2010 06:13, Alex Tinsley skrev:
Might be better to contact PreSonus first and ask
them if it's BeBop
and or FFADO to see if it might work before dropping your hard earned
money on it.
Also make sure that you do all the firmware updates on the VSR-880's
from the Roland website so that when you do connect an RPC/R-BUS
interface up to it, that it will properly see the connection. Older
firmware will either not see anything or only one port.
Other I/O that work with the R-Bus interface:
Roland RPC-1 PCI Card
Edirol DA-2496 PCI Card
M-Audio Delta R-BUS (this is the Envy24 chip which is already
supported by ALSA), only thing is you'd have to get two of them and
daisy chain them to get the 16 channels. Cards would sync via external
SPDIF (out of one into the other).
Another option would be to get an R-BUS to ADAT converter, Roland made
these, DIF-AT or DIF-AT24 (little black boxes), look on ebay. Then you
can go into a sound card or 1394 interface that supports multiple ADAT
input ports.
On 9/21/2010 7:13 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
Hi and thanks so far
M-Audio Delta R-BUS, on which M-Audio card ?
Can't find a specific R-BUS card from M-Audio :)
Cheers
On 09/21/2010 07:34 PM, Svend-Erik Kjær Madsen
wrote:
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I just bought a pair of two older Roland VSR-880 to record my band
during rehearse , I'm gonna use it with an analog mixer, but I would be
pleased to be able to feed Ardour with some of the recordings too, but
the only way to do it digital is through the R-bus which is a Roland
thing, but i found this device
http://www.thomann.de/gb/presonus_vfire.htm and wonder if anyone here
succeeded to install the device on Linux ?
Maybe I used the wrong keywords but I can't find anything about it on
Google.
if you can find out whether it uses a DICE or BEBOP chip, then
there's a chance it might run with ffado.
i didn't say this, but you can always order the thing, fiddle away
for a week and then return it in "as-new" condition with a full refund.
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27 Sep
27 Sep
10:36 a.m.
On 9/22/2010 3:09 AM, Svend-Erik Kjær Madsen wrote:
Den 22-09-2010 06:13, Alex Tinsley skrev:
It was called the Delta
R-Bus. It didn't sell for very long right
alongside the T-DIF card that they put out. It was taken off of their
site a while ago, the manual is still up there though, if you want more
info on the card, do a google search for 'delta rbus'
Might be better to contact PreSonus first and
ask them if it's BeBop
and or FFADO to see if it might work before dropping your hard earned
money on it.
Also make sure that you do all the firmware updates on the VSR-880's
from the Roland website so that when you do connect an RPC/R-BUS
interface up to it, that it will properly see the connection. Older
firmware will either not see anything or only one port.
Other I/O that work with the R-Bus interface:
Roland RPC-1 PCI Card
Edirol DA-2496 PCI Card
M-Audio Delta R-BUS (this is the Envy24 chip which is already
supported by ALSA), only thing is you'd have to get two of them and
daisy chain them to get the 16 channels. Cards would sync via
external SPDIF (out of one into the other).
Another option would be to get an R-BUS to ADAT converter, Roland
made these, DIF-AT or DIF-AT24 (little black boxes), look on ebay.
Then you can go into a sound card or 1394 interface that supports
multiple ADAT input ports.
On 9/21/2010 7:13 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
Hi and thanks so far
M-Audio Delta R-BUS, on which M-Audio card ?
Can't find a specific R-BUS card from M-Audio :)
Cheers
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wrote:
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I just bought a pair of two older Roland VSR-880 to record my band
during rehearse , I'm gonna use it with an analog mixer, but I
would be
pleased to be able to feed Ardour with some of the recordings too, but
the only way to do it digital is through the R-bus which is a Roland
thing, but i found this device
http://www.thomann.de/gb/presonus_vfire.htm and wonder if anyone here
succeeded to install the device on Linux ?
Maybe I used the wrong keywords but I can't find anything about it on
Google.
if you can find out whether it uses a DICE or BEBOP chip, then
there's a chance it might run with ffado.
i didn't say this, but you can always order the thing, fiddle away
for a week and then return it in "as-new" condition with a full refund.
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22 Sep
22 Sep
8:48 a.m.
On Wednesday 22 September 2010 04:13:47 Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
On 09/21/2010 07:34 PM, Svend-Erik Kjær Madsen wrote:
As old as that device is I am pretty sure its not DICE based. Might be BEBOP
but there are no guarantees. Could very well be a totally different chip
altogether...
I just bought a pair of two older Roland VSR-880
to record my band
during rehearse , I'm gonna use it with an analog mixer, but I would be
pleased to be able to feed Ardour with some of the recordings too, but
the only way to do it digital is through the R-bus which is a Roland
thing, but i found this device
http://www.thomann.de/gb/presonus_vfire.htm and wonder if anyone here
succeeded to install the device on Linux ?
Maybe I used the wrong keywords but I can't find anything about it on
Google.
if you can find out whether it uses a DICE or BEBOP chip, then there's a
chance it might run with ffado. i didn't say this, but you can always order the
thing, fiddle away for a
week and then return it in "as-new" condition with a full refund.
Thats a nice feature in Germany if you buy it online. For direct selling or
outside of Germany, please make sure that you get your funds returned before
trying this.
Have fun,
Arnold
3:47 p.m.
Hoi Svend-Erik,
I can't help you with the 1394 interface, but there's some other options:
On 09/21/2010 07:34 PM, Svend-Erik Kjær Madsen wrote:
Hi
I just bought a pair of two older Roland VSR-880 to record my band
during rehearse, I'm gonna use it with an analog mixer, but I would be
pleased to be able to feed Ardour with some of the recordings too,
I have a VS-890 sitting around in the corner. I loved that device in the
late 90's - its built-in effects are great as well.
While one can access the raw data (either via SCSI or by simply taking
out the HDD) it's a proprietary format. However there's
http://www.thegoodlibrary.com/VSWaveExport.html - with some advanced
wine device-config and tricks (see the troubleshooting on the page) it
works on GNU/Linux.
The drawback is: you get the raw data as stored on the device: not the
mix (unless you bounce it).
Another option is to simply use MTC/MMC to sync ardour to the VSR-880.
I've used the optical S/PDIF-out to transfer two tracks at a time. It's
somewhat lame but WTH. In my case I spent much more time recording,
mixing & mastering so the few hours for transferring was negligible.
but
the only way to do it digital is through the R-bus which is a Roland
thing, but i found this device
http://www.thomann.de/gb/presonus_vfire.htm and wonder if anyone here
succeeded to install the device on Linux ?
Maybe I used the wrong keywords but I can't find anything about it on
Google.
The magic word is "ffado" (Free Firewire Audio Drivers)
http://www.ffado.org/?q=devicesupport/list
In particular http://www.ffado.org/?q=node/108 says
"V-Fire Support Status: Unknown"
http://www.presonus.com/products/Detail.aspx?ProductId=9
"V-Fire also comes with a software control panel enabling the user to
select the sample rate (44.1K, 48K, 88.2K, and 96K), latency, buffer
size and clock source."
Said software is only available for OSX <=10.4 and Windows XP. I don't
know if there's a FFADO equivalent, but neither qemu nor virtualbox
support raw1394.
ciao,
robin
4:18 p.m.
Den 22-09-2010 15:47, Robin Gareus skrev:
Hoi Svend-Erik,
I can't help you with the 1394 interface, but there's some other options:
On 09/21/2010 07:34 PM, Svend-Erik Kjær Madsen wrote:
*Hi Robin
Okay in fact I've already ordered two sockets for mounting a Compact
flash card in the machines IDE bays:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.9304
I did that original because one of the harddisc's have periodical
failure, thick and old oil or something, but it will not operate proper
much longer I think. And new IDE disk's dosen't seem to float the market.
Then taking the raw data should be easy through a compact flash card
reader, and I don't mind mixing in Ardour.
Thanks for that link.*
Hi
I just bought a pair of two older Roland VSR-880 to record my band
during rehearse, I'm gonna use it with an analog mixer, but I would be
pleased to be able to feed Ardour with some of the recordings too,
I have a VS-890 sitting around in the corner. I loved that device in the
late 90's - its built-in effects are great as well.
While one can access the raw data (either via SCSI or by simply taking
out the HDD) it's a proprietary format. However there's
http://www.thegoodlibrary.com/VSWaveExport.html - with some advanced
wine device-config and tricks (see the troubleshooting on the page) it
works on GNU/Linux.
The drawback is: you get the raw data as stored on the device: not the
mix (unless you bounce it).
Another option is to simply use MTC/MMC to sync ardour to the VSR-880.
I've used the optical S/PDIF-out to transfer two tracks at a time. It's
somewhat lame but WTH. In my case I spent much more time recording,
mixing& mastering so the few hours for transferring was negligible.
*
* but
the only way to do it digital is through the R-bus which is a Roland
thing, but i found this device
http://www.thomann.de/gb/presonus_vfire.htm and wonder if anyone here
succeeded to install the device on Linux ?
Maybe I used the wrong keywords but I can't find anything about it on
Google.
The magic word is "ffado" (Free Firewire Audio Drivers)
http://www.ffado.org/?q=devicesupport/list
In particular http://www.ffado.org/?q=node/108 says
"V-Fire Support Status: Unknown"
http://www.presonus.com/products/Detail.aspx?ProductId=9
"V-Fire also comes with a software control panel enabling the user to
select the sample rate (44.1K, 48K, 88.2K, and 96K), latency, buffer
size and clock source."
Said software is only available for OSX<=10.4 and Windows XP. I don't
know if there's a FFADO equivalent, but neither qemu nor virtualbox
support raw1394.
ciao,
robin
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