20 Dec
2005
20 Dec
'05
10:57 a.m.
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 20:31 , Sean Edwards <cybersean3000(a)yahoo.com> sent:
This may be anti-open, but here it goes. I think if
you want to copyright a piece of music in the U.S.A,
it needs to be in standard music notation. This
requirement may be a Library of Congress requirement,
but I am not sure.
Sorry, but this is incorrect. Since 1998 any piece of music that has been
published (this is a very loose term which includes putting it on a CD and
handing it to a friend) is automatically copyrighted. You may register this
copyright with the US Copyright Office but this is not required. If you do wish
to register the copyright all you need is a cassette tape and a copy of the
lyrics (if any).
Jan
20 Dec
20 Dec
2:12 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] U.S. Copyright: was FOLKS, PAY......
Hi,
Sorry, but this is incorrect. Since 1998 any
piece of music that has been
published (this is a very loose term which includes
putting it on a CD and
handing it to a friend) is automatically
copyrighted. You may register this
copyright with the US Copyright Office but this is
not required. If you do wish
to register the copyright all you need is a cassette
tape and a copy of the
lyrics (if any).
Copyright registration has been on my mind lately. I
believe single and bulk (album) song registrations
cost $30.00. That is expensive when you consider how
the internet has shaped publishing and distribution.
Any of us can write, publish and distribute a song in
a single day. I don't think anyone wants to pay $30.00
for every registration.
The $30.00 registration purchases legally acceptable
evidence of ownership that is presentable in a court
of law. It is a record of proof but it's not
exclusive.
We used to do the poor man's registration by mailing
evidence, songs on a cassette with lyrics, back to
ourselves in a registered U.S. Postal package. That's
more affordable but inconvienant.
I want to publish with a free service on the internet
that establishes an equivalent to the poor man's
registration. Is this happening yet?
ron
Jan
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3:18 p.m.
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R Parker offered the following on 12/20/2005 12:12 PM:
Hi,
Not sure if this question has been answered, but I'll suggest the
Creative Commons project is possibly the first stop to check on what the
current status is regarding licensing for the Internet, and copyright
questions:
www.creativecommons.org
Tom
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Sorry, but this is incorrect. Since 1998 any
piece of music that has been
published (this is a very loose term which includes
putting it on a CD and
handing it to a friend) is automatically
copyrighted. You may register this
copyright with the US Copyright Office but this is
not required. If you do wish
to register the copyright all you need is a cassette
tape and a copy of the
lyrics (if any).
Copyright registration has been on my mind lately. I
believe single and bulk (album) song registrations
cost $30.00. That is expensive when you consider how
the internet has shaped publishing and distribution.
Any of us can write, publish and distribute a song in
a single day. I don't think anyone wants to pay $30.00
for every registration.
The $30.00 registration purchases legally acceptable
evidence of ownership that is presentable in a court
of law. It is a record of proof but it's not
exclusive.
We used to do the poor man's registration by mailing
evidence, songs on a cassette with lyrics, back to
ourselves in a registered U.S. Postal package. That's
more affordable but inconvienant.
I want to publish with a free service on the internet
that establishes an equivalent to the poor man's
registration. Is this happening yet?
ron
Jan
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3:34 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] U.S. Copyright: was FOLKS, PAY......
On Tue December 20 2005 13:12, R Parker wrote:
I want to publish with a free service on the internet
that establishes an equivalent to the poor man's
registration. Is this happening yet?
I don't know how effective a tool it would be in court, but
speaking for myself, web.archive.org has a record of my music
page (with a list of "songs", i.e., incomplete snippets of
songs, that I'd published, i.e., made available for download)
going back to 2001.
The page actually went up in 1996, and existed as a handful of
mp3's and MIDI files prior to that, but apparently archive.org
didn't find my site till 2001. I think you can force
web.archive.org to fetch a page (and then keep track of changes)
by searching for it, though.
Of course, web.archive.org doesn't archive the MIDI or mp3 files
as far as I know, but at least it's a record that you published
them.
Rob
22 Dec
22 Dec
12:32 p.m.
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Rob wrote:
I think you can force
web.archive.org to fetch a page (and then keep track of changes)
by searching for it, though.
Of course, web.archive.org doesn't archive the MIDI or mp3 files
as far as I know, but at least it's a record that you published
them.
Likewise, you can force archive.org to mirror the media itself. :)
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20 Dec
20 Dec
10:51 p.m.
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On 12/20/05, R Parker <rtp405(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
We used to do the poor man's registration by mailing
evidence, songs on a cassette with lyrics, back to
ourselves in a registered U.S. Postal package. That's
more affordable but inconvienant.
I'm pretty sure that this doesn't actually work. You can send an empty
envelope through the mail to yourself, and just keep it around until
you need it. Then, to "prove" you wrote something, just stick it in
the envelope and seal it. Then it looks like you sent the material way
back whenever the envelope was postmarked.
spencer
21 Dec
21 Dec
11:09 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] U.S. Copyright: was FOLKS, PAY......
--- Spencer Russell <slothlove(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/20/05, R Parker <rtp405(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
I hate it when you are right and it appears you
probably are:
http://www.snopes.com/legal/postmark.asp
which links to:
http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html
There's one legitimate angle to research. I'll look
into it.
ron
You
We used to do the poor man's registration by
mailing
evidence, songs on a cassette with lyrics, back
to
ourselves in a registered U.S. Postal package.
That's
more affordable but inconvienant.
I'm pretty sure that this doesn't actually work. can send an empty
envelope through the mail to yourself, and just keep
it around until
you need it. Then, to "prove" you wrote something,
just stick it in
the envelope and seal it. Then it looks like you
sent the material way
back whenever the envelope was postmarked.
spencer
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