18 Sep
2006
18 Sep
'06
5:06 p.m.
Hi
My singing is not at good as it could be, but I'd still like to do some
demo tracks. Is there anything out there that will autotune my voice,
maybe in the form of a ladspa plugin, for use in ardour? Should mention
that I've never used anything of this kind before and all my recent
recording experience is under linux with ardour...
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peace, love & harmony
Atte
http://www.atte.dk | quartet: http://www.anagrammer.dk
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18 Sep
18 Sep
5:34 p.m.
On 9/18/06, Atte André Jensen <atte.jensen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
My singing is not at good as it could be, but I'd
still like to do some
demo tracks. Is there anything out there that will autotune my voice,
maybe in the form of a ladspa plugin, for use in ardour? Should mention
that I've never used anything of this kind before and all my recent
recording experience is under linux with ardour...
Look up the LADSPA plugin, "phase-vocoder based pitch shifter" (or
something like that), which does a quite good job at very slight
tuning adjustments. It is completely manual, though, so you have to
edit the plugin automation in Ardour for best results.
I have done this on one song, and had reasonable results, but it took
a lot of effort.
Let me know off-list if you want to hear the before and after...
-TimH
6:02 p.m.
Tim Howard wrote:
Look up the LADSPA plugin, "phase-vocoder based
pitch shifter" (or
something like that), which does a quite good job at very slight
tuning adjustments. It is completely manual, though, so you have to
edit the plugin automation in Ardour for best results.
So it could be called "manualtune"? :-)
Well (as I mentioned) I've never used any autotune, but was hoping for a
magical "make my singing in tune" plugin. I'm affraid too much efford
won't be worth it, since we're strictly talking demoing a melody for
real singer to record...
--
peace, love & harmony
Atte
http://www.atte.dk | quartet: http://www.anagrammer.dk
| compositions: http://www.atte.dk/compositions
6:08 p.m.
On Mon, 2006-09-18 at 21:57 +0200, Atte André Jensen wrote:
Tim Howard wrote:
I asked this question on the list a while back and the consensus was
that such a thing does not exist.
Lee
Look up the LADSPA plugin, "phase-vocoder
based pitch shifter" (or
something like that), which does a quite good job at very slight
tuning adjustments. It is completely manual, though, so you have to
edit the plugin automation in Ardour for best results.
So it could be called "manualtune"? :-)
Well (as I mentioned) I've never used any autotune, but was hoping for a
magical "make my singing in tune" plugin. I'm affraid too much efford
won't be worth it, since we're strictly talking demoing a melody for
real singer to record...
6:11 p.m.
On 9/18/06, Atte André Jensen <atte.jensen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Tim Howard wrote:
Of course, after you set up the automation, it "automanually" plays
the same way every time... :-)
tuning adjustments. It is completely manual,
though, so you have to
edit the plugin automation in Ardour for best results.
So it could be called "manualtune"? :-) 
6:26 p.m.
Tim Howard wrote:
On 9/18/06, Atte André Jensen
<atte.jensen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
You can also write a trivial PureData patch where you send the audio of
your singing to some fft pitch detection object (like aubiopitch~ from
the aubio library), constraint the pitch to the scale in which you're
singining, and route the output of this object to the pitch parameter of
the mentioned ladspa plugin.
With a low pass filter on the output of the pitch detection object you
can adjust the sensitivity of the correction.
This is how autotune works, in my understanding.
c.
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Tim Howard wrote:
Of course, after you set up the automation, it "automanually" plays
the same way every time... :-)
tuning adjustments. It is completely manual,
though, so you have to
edit the plugin automation in Ardour for best results.
So it could be called "manualtune"? :-) 
7:08 p.m.
On 9/18/06, Atte André Jensen <atte.jensen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Well (as I mentioned) I've never used any autotune, but was hoping for a
magical "make my singing in tune" plugin. I'm affraid too much efford
won't be worth it, since we're strictly talking demoing a melody for
real singer to record...
A while ago I was thinking of the best way to implement some sort of
autotune-like program, and this is what I came up with:
The user would import the sound file in question, and the program
would display a spectrogram (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Spectrogram_of_violin.png ) with
horizontal lines superimposed that indicate the frequencies of the
equal-tempered 12 half-step scale that most of us are used to. Then
the user could easily add points to define an automation curve like in
Ardour, and see in real time how it effects the spectrogram, to line
up the fundemental frequency peaks with the right notes. Then they
just export the pitch-corrected file.
I'm not much of a programmer, but it seems like there are libraries to
do most of the necessary functions, with probably the hardest thing
being the real-time updating of the FFT display. Seems like it could
be a useful little tool.
Also, I found a free VST autotuner for Windows called gsnap that seems
to be pretty cool. If you have VST working in linux you might be able
to use it:
http://www.gvst.co.uk/gsnap.htm
-spencer
19 Sep
19 Sep
7:37 a.m.
Mon, 18 Sep 2006 17:08:32 -0400
"Spencer Russell" <slothlove(a)gmail.com> ha scritto:
On 9/18/06, Atte André Jensen
<atte.jensen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Baudline (http://www.baudline.com/) has a very good realtime spectrogram
visualiser. It also has the ability to see the "harmonics guidelines",
and a lot of very useful tools to accurately measure the fundamental
(among other things). It's really a great tool for frequency-domain
(but also time-domain) analysis. The only thing it lacks is the ability
to _edit_ the file in a visual manner. One kind of editing could be the
autotuning feature as you suggested. Another one would be the ability
to edit the spectrogram with brushes, like a photo-editing program.
If only some programmer would care to create a such tools would be very
very useful ;-).
Sorry if I went OT.
Cheer,
~ Antonio
Well (as I mentioned) I've never used any autotune, but was hoping
for a magical "make my singing in tune" plugin. I'm affraid too
much efford won't be worth it, since we're strictly talking demoing
a melody for real singer to record...
A while ago I was thinking of the best way to implement some sort of
autotune-like program, and this is what I came up with:
The user would import the sound file in question, and the program
would display a spectrogram (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Spectrogram_of_violin.png ) with
horizontal lines superimposed that indicate the frequencies of the
equal-tempered 12 half-step scale that most of us are used to. Then
the user could easily add points to define an automation curve like in
Ardour, and see in real time how it effects the spectrogram, to line
up the fundemental frequency peaks with the right notes. Then they
just export the pitch-corrected file.
I'm not much of a programmer, but it seems like there are libraries to
do most of the necessary functions, with probably the hardest thing
being the real-time updating of the FFT display. Seems like it could
be a useful little tool.
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