22 Oct
2009
22 Oct
'09
6:39 a.m.
Hi
I've been using jsynthlib in that past to backup the patches on my
jv-80. However after a long break I installedjsynthlib again, because
now I wanna backup the patches of my new (old) xp-30 that should replace
the jv-80. But jsynthlib doesn't seem to work with the xp-30, for one
thing, jsynthlib (with the jv-80 driver) doesn't know about all the
extra sounds available in the xp-30.
Since I really don't need an editor, just a place to put patches, I'm
hoping someone here could recommend a good way to go about this?
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22 Oct
22 Oct
9:27 a.m.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Atte Andre Jensen <atte.jensen(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Hi
I've been using jsynthlib in that past to backup the patches on my
jv-80. However after a long break I installedjsynthlib again, because
now I wanna backup the patches of my new (old) xp-30 that should replace
the jv-80. But jsynthlib doesn't seem to work with the xp-30, for one
thing, jsynthlib (with the jv-80 driver) doesn't know about all the
extra sounds available in the xp-30.
Since I really don't need an editor, just a place to put patches, I'm
hoping someone here could recommend a good way to go about this?
Hi Atte,
Why not write a driver for JSynthLib? You can write drivers for library
support only.
I've just checked the XP-30 manual,
http://www.johannes-emmerling.de/xp-30/downloads/Roland_XP-30_Manual.pdf
and it contains whole lists of names (at page +/-180).
If you copy them in a text editor and use the "replace" function, you can
make a string array to put in your JSynthLib driver's constants file. Maybe
you can start your driver from the jv-80 driver.
For more info ... see the wikis I started about
JSynthLib http://jsynthlib.wikispaces.com
and Roland SPD-11 http://spd-11.wikispaces.com
Rib Rdb also wrote a feature for JSynthLib to write drivers by describing
the sysex in an .xml file.
But that's still in an experimental stage and very undocumented.
Regards,
Peter
PS: I can't really help you with the librarian part as my drivers for SPD-11
can't send sysex back and I don't have any clue why.
Maybe it will work when I install the next AVLinux that I just downloaded
(my current install is messed up by too much experimenting). Maybe it's
because I got something wrong in my driver.
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1:48 p.m.
Peter Geirnaert wrote:
Why not write a driver for JSynthLib? You can write
drivers for library
support only.
Hmm, see below...
PS: I can't really help you with the librarian
part as my drivers for
SPD-11 can't send sysex back and I don't have any clue why.
Maybe it will work when I install the next AVLinux that I just
downloaded (my current install is messed up by too much experimenting).
Maybe it's because I got something wrong in my driver.
Actually I fired a newly installed jsynthlib up and wanted to transfer a
few patches from my jv-80 and I couldn't get it working either. Sounds a
little like the problem you describe. I watched the communication in
kmidimon and it seems nothing is getting back to the computer from the
synth.
This is the reason I was looking for something else. I realize that the
most beneficial for the community (and probably me in the long run)
would be to solve the problem with jsynthlib and write a driver for
xp-30, but I'm a bit in a hurry, so I was hoping it Just Worked...
Might pursue it a final time tomorrow, just for the stress of it :-)
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Atte
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8:33 p.m.
Atte Andre Jensen wrote:
Might pursue it a final time tomorrow, just for the
stress of it :-)
Ok, got jsynthlib going with my jv80, most likely confusion on my part
regarding my 3 midi outs (that very elegantly have exactly the same name
in jsynthlib).
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23 Oct
23 Oct
5:48 a.m.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Atte Andre Jensen
<atte.jensen(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Atte Andre Jensen wrote:
Might pursue it a final time tomorrow, just for the stress of it :-)
Ok, got jsynthlib going with my jv80, most likely confusion on my part
regarding my 3 midi outs (that very elegantly have exactly the same name in
jsynthlib).
That's nice, that it's not a JSL-bug :)
Have you tried a manual dump from the XP-30 using the generic driver?
If it doesn't work, I'll help you writing the library support, as usually
that's the easiest part.
1. http://jsynthlib.wikispaces.com/synthDevice
2. http://jsynthlib.wikispaces.com/Step-by-step2
3. http://jsynthlib.wikispaces.com/synthPatchDriver
Of course we'll need some sysex info about the XP-30 but that's all
described pretty well in the manual I downloaded.
Just a matter of a little searching and collaboration. While we/I write a
driver for the XP-30, it would be a good occasion to extend the wiki with
more examples/details, to make a better tool to use when writing a driver.
And there's also the XML Driver where you can describe your synth's SysEx in
an .xml file to have library and editor support.
The XML Driver was written by Rib Rdb but there's no documentation written
for it yet, only this:
http://jsynthlib.wikispaces.com/XMLguide
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