1 Aug
2005
1 Aug
'05
11:20 a.m.
Mark Constable:
Extremely provocating rubbush!
In addtition to general generalisation, you make programmers seem like
some mindless robots slaving for their users. Personally, I don't care
very much whether my software is used. That does not matter. Its the fun
of making new types of software, and that I need the software myself. If
others like the software too, thats great!, but its normally not of very
much importance for whether I keep developing or not.
(I also of have a lot of software that is not released to the public,
because no one else probably wouldn't have any use for it, which I guess
is common.)
If you will
indulge me, I want to know
what makes you spend the time you do on this stuff so guys like me can
pilfer legally and freely your hard works and then subsequently bitch at
random about how it doesn't work! :)
You make it sound like a one way street all about the developer(s).
A "project" cannot survive without users. If users do not use the
software the developers are sweating over then that software project
will go nowhere and die. Every bit as much as us users leach the
efforts of developers is the developers need us as users or else
their efforts will come to nothing... they also need to pay homage
to their userbase... or another project, that does so, will succeed
in the long term and their baby will not.
1 Aug
1 Aug
11:42 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Linux Audio Direction
Hi,
Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen <k.s.matheussen(a)notam02.no> a écrit :
[...]
Its the fun
of making new types of software, and that I need the software myself. If
others like the software too, thats great!, but its normally not of very
much importance for whether I keep developing or not.
I agree with you, this is the force of free software: they have no
marketing goal but are fruits of a need :)
Jody
1:22 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Linux Audio Direction
On Monday 01 August 2005 23:20, Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen
<k.s.matheussen(a)notam02.no> wrote:
I am talking about "projects" that both developers and users happen
to be associated with. I don't see what's provocative or in anyway
rubbishy about a statement like "a project cannot survive without
users".
If you develop software for your own needs then great, if some other
people also happen to use it then power be to your software... but I
hardly see how that software compares to major core code that the
rest of us totaly rely on... like the kernel, ALSA/JACK, X/desktops.
You make it
sound like a one way street all about the developer(s).
A "project" cannot survive without users. If users do not use the
software the developers are sweating over then that software project
will go nowhere and die. Every bit as much as us users leach the
efforts of developers is the developers need us as users or else
their efforts will come to nothing... they also need to pay homage
to their userbase... or another project, that does so, will succeed
in the long term and their baby will not.
Extremely provocating rubbush! In addtition to general generalisation, you make
programmers seem like
some mindless robots slaving for their users. Personally, I don't care
very much whether my software is used. That does not matter. Its the fun
of making new types of software, and that I need the software myself. If
others like the software too, thats great!, but its normally not of very
much importance for whether I keep developing or not.
And so goes your project(s). I wasn't talking about the kind of project
where someone like yourself does not care if anyone else uses your
sofware... that is not the backbone of the larger and really important
major projects we all absolutely depend on.
I'm talking about the survival, or not, of core projects that, if
successful, will be used by many MILLIONs of users in the next decade.
Some of the software we use today will become major international
institutions over the next 5 to 10 years... and I'm very sure the
current progeny that evolves and survives the next few years will be
the ones that are most end-user friendly.
--markc
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