On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 03:15:52 +0100, Olaf Christ wrote: That is actually a big improvemnt. When we (linuaudio.org) were demoing at Sounds Live in London earlier this year, the were telling thier users that they had no intention of supporting linux, and wouldn't release docs. Though with the number of thier users we were sending to them to ask, I guess they were getting a bit concerned :) - Steve

Regarding firewire audio support: We are currently working on a generic driver for DM1000 based firewire audio cards by BridgeCo. I don't know if the motu device is based upon this chipset. If it is, chances are that the driver will also work for you. But at this point the development is still in a very preliminary state. The good news is that there is a standard for the firewire audio/midi transport protocol. This means that the core part of the driver will be the same for all firewire devices. The bad news is that the actual setup of the device (mixer settings i.e.) doesn't conform to a standard. The only problem is that experience learns that not every manufacturer implements the standards (correctly). Regarding the manufacturer support: The only thing we can do is promote the manufacturers that are willing to cooperate. I'll give an overview of my personal experience: * I had real good experience up till now with ESI (Ego Systems inc). I sent some manufacturers using the DM1000 chipset a notification that in order to support their product, I would need a device to fool around with. About two reply's and a few weeks later, I received their QuataFire 610 box. Excellent... * The people at M-Audio also use the DM1000 chipset, and I also contacted them. They replied and wanted to provide a device, but they modified the reference firmware, and couldn't provide any info on their firmware... Maybe this will change once there is a driver available that only needs to be adapted for their stuff. I don't know, I still hope that this * Two other company's using the DM1000 in their products and whom I contacted were Edirol and Terratec. I din't receive any response from them yet, not even a confirmation. The mails were sent more than a month ago. * Another card I would really like to see ALSA support for is the EMU DAS range (1820 etc). So I contacted E-MU/Creative Labs to see if they were willing the cooperate. The product manager for these products was quite enthousiastic. But after 6 months of e-mail traffic the upper management descided that they wouldn't give out any info on the DSP. End of story. * My first attempt at driver development was for the Guillemot (=Hercules) Maxi Studio ISIS. There was no support at all from Guillemot, they wouldn't even reply to emails. I ended up blowing up my own ISIS in numerous attempts to figure out the workings of the device. My overall advice on Guillemot/Hercules: stay away from them. To summarize: If I were to buy a card at this point, I would first go and check if ESI has a product that fullfills my needs. That is the only pressure I can put on manufacturers. Greets, Pieter Palmers freebob.sf.net Olaf Christ wrote:

On Thursday 18 November 2004 08:01 am, derek holzer wrote: More like if they sent some demo hardware to the right people. Chicken & egg

On Thursday 18 November 2004 05:12 pm, Lee Revell wrote: Good news. This thread has been interesting. Never say never y'know?