Rick Green wrote: I have the SE 2200A usb mic. Sound great and works flawless with linux (<7ms latency with jack). The really nice thing is that is has a regulart XLR output, so you can get a good preamp later for even better quality. -- peace, love & harmony Atte http://atte.dk | http://myspace.com/attejensen http://anagrammer.dk | http://modlys.dk

don't get the behringer tube products. they aren't worth it. the solid state stuff is fine, but their tube stuff is terrible (i had a tube preamp of theirs for a while, can't remember the model but it was one of the rack mount ones). the tube is more for show than anything - they still use solid state through most of the circuit anyway. the tubes are also starved of power from memory and distort very nastily, i think anyway - for all i know it was the opamps distorting anyway - it didn't sound at all like 'tube distortion'. if you can afford the extra cost of the focusrite then don't even hesitate to choose the cheaper behringer over it. don't get me wrong, i actually like behringer overall, but they are no match for the focusrite pres. i have a behringer ada8000 connected to an RME9636 hammerfall, and i just got a focusrite pro26io. the focusrite pres were a league above the behringers. the ada8000 is still more than adequate though, and i'll still use it, but the focusrite is worth the difference. porl On 29/10/2007, Jorge Salgueiro &lt;jorge.salgueiro(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

2007/10/30, porl sheean &lt;porl42(a)gmail.com&gt;om>: so a cheat good mic is a M-audio Nova or a Behringer B-1? Or you are speaking of something better? On 30/10/2007, porl sheean &lt;porl42(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: thanks for the tip. Didn't knew that. if you can afford the extra cost of the focusrite then don't even hesitate the focusrite i'am speak about is the fakmaster and I read that the compression isn't the best... but costs 250€ :-D the cheap option is the ultravoice vx2496. thankx and sorry to enter in the post with my own questions like an elephant. :D On 29/10/2007, Jorge Salgueiro < jorge.salgueiro(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: -- Um abraço, Jorge Salgueiro ................................................................. Use GNU/Linux: free culture for a free society

On 2007-10-30 11:25 pm, porl sheean wrote: I've got a pair of Behringer B-1's and a Yamaha MW8cx mixer with USB and I'm very happy with this combo for the price. The main downside is the mixer's USB soundcard is only 16 bit @ 48khtz. I'm using jackd at 256 frames and 3 periods which gives 16 msec latency and mid-range pair of Sony MDR-7506 headphones. It's a great system for recording Skype interviews and screencast vocal tracks. Perhaps not quite good enough for professional studio work in a "real" studio but so far I am very happy with what I am hearing. http://www.behringer.com/B-1/ http://music.yamaha.com/products/specifications.html?productId=592581 http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/DisplayModel?m=0&p=10&… --markc

an SM57 can be really great on vocals, they're cheap - use a pop screen ----- Original Message ----- From: Jorge Salgueiro To: Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [LAU] Good mic for voice? 2007/10/30, porl sheean &lt;porl42(a)gmail.com&gt;om>: a good cheap mic? i can recommend the ones i have (i got them as part of a drum set but i've used them for lots of other stuff) is the samson c01. they worked brilliantly for the vocals of the last track i did, as the singers voice seemed to sit with it better than my valve mic (rode). i'm sure those other mics you mentioned are great as well, but i haven't used them. i think i have heard good things about the b1 though, can't remember :) as for the focusrite, if the pres are different to the ones in the higher end gear (most probable) then i can't really speak for them. if you get the vx2496 then be aware that it is not a sound card, and you will need an aes/ebu compatible interface to use it. the only behringer interfaces that work directly to the pc are the bcontrol audio (control surface and audio interface in one. not sure if it is still available), the u-control (a usb device) and the f-control (firewire). both the u- and f-controls have no mic pres (i think, check for yourself though) so you would still need a pre between them and the mic. if you want to do it on the cheap, then pretty much any usb interface should do (check first though), as most of them seem to use a standard usb-audio format. a while back i was looking for some for the school and i think tascam did something reasonable. it was a while back though. actually, i remember the small presonus (firebox i think) interfaces were supposed to be good value too. hope i haven't confused you more! :) porl :D as a sound card I have a delta 44 but I assume that ultravoice has a analog out... have to check it out thanks for the info! On 30/10/2007, Jorge Salgueiro &lt;jorge.salgueiro(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: 2007/10/30, porl sheean &lt;porl42(a)gmail.com&gt;om>: sorry to reply to my own post, but i was just going to say you are probably better off in the long run if you can't afford to get the focusrite as well as the better mics to get the focusrite and the cheaper mics. that way when you decide it's worth upgrading the mic you will have a spare (still quite usable) mic for when the more expensive one doesn't 'sit right' in the mix. porl so a cheat good mic is a M-audio Nova or a Behringer B-1? Or you are speaking of something better? On 30/10/2007, porl sheean < porl42(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: don't get the behringer tube products. they aren't worth it. the solid state stuff is fine, but their tube stuff is terrible (i had a tube preamp of theirs for a while, can't remember the model but it was one of the rack mount ones). the tube is more for show than anything - they still use solid state through most of the circuit anyway. the tubes are also starved of power from memory and distort very nastily, i think anyway - for all i know it was the opamps distorting anyway - it didn't sound at all like 'tube distortion'. thanks for the tip. Didn't knew that. if you can afford the extra cost of the focusrite then don't even hesitate to choose the cheaper behringer over it. don't get me wrong, i actually like behringer overall, but they are no match for the focusrite pres. i have a behringer ada8000 connected to an RME9636 hammerfall, and i just got a focusrite pro26io. the focusrite pres were a league above the behringers. the ada8000 is still more than adequate though, and i'll still use it, but the focusrite is worth the difference. porl the focusrite i'am speak about is the fakmaster and I read that the compression isn't the best... but costs 250€ :-D the cheap option is the ultravoice vx2496. thankx and sorry to enter in the post with my own questions like an elephant. :D On 29/10/2007, Jorge Salgueiro < jorge.salgueiro(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: 2007/10/29, Atte André Jensen &lt;atte.jensen(a)gmail.com&gt;om>: Rick Green wrote: I have the SE 2200A usb mic. Sound great and works flawless with linux (<7ms latency with jack). The really nice thing is that is has a regulart XLR output, so you can get a good preamp later for even better quality. -- peace, love & harmony Atte http://atte.dk | http://myspace.com/attejensen http://anagrammer.dk | http://modlys.dk _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user right now I'm looking also for a good recording (not stage mic) and my conclusions so far are: M-audio Luna with Focusrite trakmaster http://www.focusrite.com/product/trakmaster_pro/ or behringer B2pro low budget M-audio Nova or Behringer B1 with Behringer ultravoice vx 2496 or some of the behringer tube products... What do you guys think? -- Um abraço, Jorge Salgueiro ................................................................. 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On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 09:24:59AM -0700, Florin Andrei wrote: While I have (and love) an RNC, it's worth noting that a compressor can be done in software (I've been pretty happy with SC4 from Steve Harris' plugin set), but the rest of the stuff requires hardware. Also, an alternative to buying a standalone preamp: get a small mixer. You get multiple preamps and a lot more functions that are endlessly useful in even the smallest home studio. The Mackie 1202 in its various incarnations is a solid choice. I got mine on ebay. -- Paul Winkler

Hi, Am Mittwoch, 31. Oktober 2007 schrieb Paul Winkler: From the quality-per-money perspective I doubt that that is an alternative: If I got the money to buy some small but good preamp, the same money would only fit for a cheap, bad mixer. And I can only repeat myself: stay away from behringer. The headphone-amp might be kind of a standard and the midi-controllers have even me thinking about buying one. But the mixers and preamps are so bad. And they even got worse the last years... And my small homestudio works (almost) entirely without a mixer. The soundcard has enough ins and outs for everything. The small line-mixer (four stereo channels) is only for my wife so that the pc and the cd-player can be connected to the speakers without rewiring... Arnold -- visit http://www.arnoldarts.de/ --- Hi, I am a .signature virus. Please copy me into your ~/.signature and send me to all your contacts. After a month or so log in as root and do a rm / -rf. Or ask your administrator to do so...