Hi. I'm trying to learn how to use Ardour. I'm doing so by using it to do some simple tasks for which it's really overkill (moving a series of long mono recordings of a live performance to disk, cutting it up into tracks, using gain envelopes to clean up some spots, exporting to WAVs), but which will give me the chance to learn the basics of how it's used. I've looked at the manual at ardour.org, but it's under construction and the vast majority of its intended contents aren't there yet. The ProTools reference manual has been helpful to understand concepts; but there's necessarily still a bit of a disconnect. I've looked through the Ardour documentation project stuff at http://www.djcj.org/LAU/ardour/ , much of which has been helpful; but a lot of it appears to have been written for much earlier versions of Ardour, and the interface buttons/mouse actions/etc. no longer seem to be the same. Many of the menu commands have hotkeys, and there are apparently hotkeys for other actions not in the menus; but I can't find a list of those hotkeys anywhere. The FAQ that comes with the software is helpful re: the mouse actions, but I'm not sure what some of the mouse actions described even are. I've searched the archives of this mailing list for other requests for Ardour docs; the requests have typically been a while ago, and in response they've been referred to the above docs. So I'm wondering if, in the time that's lapsed since then and since some of the above has been written, there've come along any other source for Ardour documentation/ instructions that I've missed? Thanks, -c P.S. Does anyone know if the ardour-users-ardour.org list is functional? I joined it 10 hours ago and sent it an email asking about archive from before last month; it didn't seem to forward on to the rest of the list (at least, I didn't get a copy). The list archives haven't shown any activity for about 20 hours. -- Chris Metzler cmetzler(a)speakeasy.snip-me.net (remove "snip-me." to email) "As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized." - Chief Luther Standing Bear