7 May
2010
7 May
'10
12:55 p.m.
On Fri, 2010-05-07 at 12:43 +0200, Florian Faber wrote:
Hi,
Then the question concerning the noise is still there...
Maybe an independent organization should compare laptops and Macbooks
for music production...
BTW. Are IBM computers also popular for Desktops in the Linux world?
\r
I asked also an Thinkpad user, he said that it
wasn't silent and you
better use an Desktop PC. He didn't compare it with an Macbook pro.
There are thinkpads and there are thinkpads.
So the question remains if this also is true for the Macbook pro.
You have really bad service (unlike 3 years of 24h service with
thinkpads), you have bad linux support (unlike with thinkpads), you get
butt ugly devices (unlike with thinkpads), you have really bad keyboards
(unlike with thinkpads).
With thinkpads you got for years now devices that run 4-8h, you have 3g
for years now, you can get really good touch screens (great for adding
notes to scores), and they can fall on a tiled floor without disintegrating.
There really is no question. Besides Apple being evil, their hardware
really cannot keep up and is very poorly engineered.
(I have several MacPro, MacBook Pro and MacBooks in the studio. There
really is no choice if you HAVE to use Final Cut Pro.)
Flo 
7 May
7 May
1:19 p.m.
New subject: Apple hardware
I realise there were quite a lot of Macbooks at the LAC. I even used mine for
presentations but ran Linux on it part of the time. Due to the insane pressure
of organising the LAC while at the same time all lectures and most other tasks
had to continue I reluctantly stuck to OS-X most of the time in the past months
because reboots drove me crazy.
So sorry for that, but I'm going back to 99% Linux now.
Most of our staff and students use a Mac and OS-X, although more and more students
are adopting dual booting into Linux. We'll have to show them the advantages.
I know several students that were at the LAC are in for the change, so the LAC
certainly helped in creating awareness. We'll increasingly be incorporating Linux in
the
curriculum from now on.
I quite like Apple's hardware though. So far I had quite a lot of trouble with
PCs for audio, mainly due to the noise produced by the mains adapters, which
seems to work its way right down to even firewire sound cards, which is
unacceptable for serious work. So what will be my next laptop ? Advice on
noiseless laptops is much appreciated.
Cheers,
Marc
10 May
10 May
8:56 a.m.
New subject: Apple hardware
I have a x41t thinkpad and its very silent. Don't know if it's as silente as
a macbook...
Atentamente, Jorge Salgueiro (Incitec S.L.)
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2010/5/7 Marc Groenewegen <marcg(a)dinkum.nl>
I realise there were quite a lot of Macbooks at the LAC. I even used mine
for
presentations but ran Linux on it part of the time. Due to the insane
pressure
of organising the LAC while at the same time all lectures and most other
tasks
had to continue I reluctantly stuck to OS-X most of the time in the past
months
because reboots drove me crazy.
So sorry for that, but I'm going back to 99% Linux now.
Most of our staff and students use a Mac and OS-X, although more and more
students
are adopting dual booting into Linux. We'll have to show them the
advantages.
I know several students that were at the LAC are in for the change, so the
LAC
certainly helped in creating awareness. We'll increasingly be incorporating
Linux in the
curriculum from now on.
I quite like Apple's hardware though. So far I had quite a lot of trouble
with
PCs for audio, mainly due to the noise produced by the mains adapters,
which
seems to work its way right down to even firewire sound cards, which is
unacceptable for serious work. So what will be my next laptop ? Advice on
noiseless laptops is much appreciated.
Cheers,
Marc
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11 May
11 May
10:44 a.m.
New subject: thinkapads (was: Apple hardware)
Jorge Salgueiro <jorge.salgueiro(a)gmail.com>om>:
I belive in thinkpads :D
so do i.
...
I have a x41t thinkpad and its very silent. Don't
know if it's as
silente as a macbook...
> I quite like Apple's hardware though. So far
I had quite a lot of
> trouble with
> PCs for audio, mainly due to the noise produced by the mains
> adapters, which
> seems to work its way right down to even firewire sound cards,
> which is unacceptable for serious work. So what will be my next
> laptop ? Advice on noiseless laptops is much appreciated.
integrated soundcard on my thinkpad T60p is quite silent.
with ECHO Indigo IO in pcmcia slot i had good quality flawless
lowlatency audio 2 I/O channels. no noise. Edirol FA-101 (10x10) with a
PCI-Express fw card works without a glitch.
thinkpads seem very good.
Lenovo Thinkpads X200 even have very good nvidia graphic cards.
dunno how thinkpad edge is now any good, but T series seem like perfect
little beasts. they could be slightly lighter tho. T400s seems like
a lot of fun.
ah just my adoration of thinkpads and its trackpoints.
l.
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1:45 p.m.
New subject: thinkapads (was: Apple hardware)
Breaking in a brand new W701 here
... :-)
It's sort of the anti-MacBook.
On May 11, 2010 4:45 AM, "Luka Princic // Nova deViator"
<nova(a)deviator.si>
wrote:
Jorge Salgueiro <jorge.salgueiro(a)gmail.com>om>:
I belive in thinkpads :D
so do i.
...
I have a x41t thinkpad and its very silent. Don't
know if it's as
silente as a macbook...
> I quite like Apple's hardware though. So far
I had quite a lot of
> trouble with
> PCs for audio, mainly due to the noise produced by the mains
> adapters, which
> seems to work its way right down to even firewire sound cards,
> which is unacceptable for serious work. So what will be my next
> laptop ? Advice on noiseless laptops is much appreciated.
integrated soundcard on my thinkpad T60p is quite silent.
with ECHO Indigo IO in pcmcia slot i had good quality flawless
lowlatency audio 2 I/O channels. no noise. Edirol FA-101 (10x10) with a
PCI-Express fw card works without a glitch.
thinkpads seem very good.
Lenovo Thinkpads X200 even have very good nvidia graphic cards.
dunno how thinkpad edge is now any good, but T series seem like perfect
little beasts. they could be slightly lighter tho. T400s seems like
a lot of fun.
ah just my adoration of thinkpads and its trackpoints.
l.
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Nova deViator ¤ http://deviator.si ¤ http://skylined.org ¤
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11 Jun
6:53 p.m.
New subject: thinkapads (was: Apple hardware)
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Monty Montgomery <xiphmont(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Breaking in a brand new W701 here
... :-)
It's sort of the anti-MacBook.
On May 11, 2010 4:45 AM, "Luka Princic // Nova deViator"
<nova(a)deviator.si>
wrote:
Jorge Salgueiro <jorge.salgueiro(a)gmail.com>om>:
I'm searching for a relative cheapo Thinkpad. You got T60's for 250 euro
refurbished. They don't have firewire afaik...
Are there places where you can buy good (2nd hand) Thinkpads, which can be
shipped easily to The Netherlands?
Tips are welcome
\r
I belive in thinkpads :D
so do i.
...
I have a x41t thinkpad and its very silent.
Don't know if it's as
silente as a macbook...
> I quite like Apple's hardware though. So
far I had quite a lot of
> trouble with
> PCs for audio, mainly due to the noise produced by the mains
> adapters, which
> seems to work its way right down to even firewire sound cards,
> which is unacceptable for serious work. So what will be my next
> laptop ? Advice on noiseless laptops is much appreciated.
integrated soundcard on my thinkpad T60p is quite silent.
with ECHO Indigo IO in pcmcia slot i had good quality flawless
lowlatency audio 2 I/O channels. no noise. Edirol FA-101 (10x10) with a
PCI-Express fw card works without a glitch.
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