On Tue, 10 May 2005 02:47:26 +0200, Esben Stien wrote: I could move it to riters.com (they allow ad-free wikis) it uses Moin moin though which I don't like so much as the wikicities style (see http://riters.com/transitiveworld/ ).. If it means more people will contribute I am happy to do this though.. Let me know. James

Mark Constable <markc(a)renta.net> wrote: Looks nice, but I am not really sure where "Linux Musicians" would fit into the front page there.. Maybe "Music composed using Alsa Apps?". Would that be okay? James

On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 01:36 +1000, Mark Constable wrote: James, whatever you decide to do, props for it. I think it's high time linux music got half as much attention as linux audio software. Peace out, -Pete

On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 01:10 +0200, Esben Stien wrote: I wouldn't. Peace out, -Pete

Dave Robillard wrote: well, musicians might use code, but they don't produce it - so i think "free software musicians" isn't enought either ... what about something based on the cultural equivalant to the gnu license - Creative Commons? shayne

On Wednesday 11 May 2005 19:44, Frank smith wrote: Ah, spoken like a true diplomat :) Here's a simple offering... http://musicians.opensrc.org/ --markc

Dave Phillips <dlphillips(a)woh.rr.com> wrote: I just wrote a really long follow up to this and managed to delete it (grr.. not used to rtin!). I think I should have planned my original proposal slightly better (knowing what I know about the Linux community!). I have moved the whole wiki to opensrc.org (now linked to musicians.opensrc.org as open source musicians). I have kept LinuxMusicians but rewritten it to be RMS friendly for all you zealots (!), and it now links off the main open source musicians page as a subheading (list by kernel!!). ;) Please could people add their names to the list of musicians on musicians.opensrc.org, link to your music, and describe as fully as possible how the track(s) were made: what software, what samples, what processing steps, what recording methods. I think to have this level of detail about the production process is very useful to beginners (and hopefully of interest to everyone else). It would be interesting, for example, to see how many people are using jamin to master their music. However good or bad (or unfinished) your music, please take the time to put something on the wiki about it and a link to your ogg/mp3 or whatever. I think it is more about the process than the finished product, but it is also nice to be able to hear what other people have composed. So, swallow your fear, cross your fingers, and post your music (it really can't be as bad as mine.. honest!). Kudos to those who have already put pages up on the wiki.. looking forward to seeing some more of you there! All the best, James

Esben Stien <b0ef(a)esben-stien.name> wrote: I meant the contents, but he may well object to the name. Hmm.. that is a very wide definition. The site hosting it _is_ opensrc.org. I will change it on the site though in the interests of inclusiveness as long as you put your name down on the list! I have now altered the page on musicians.opensrc.org to make it clear that it includes musicians using free and/or opensource software, and on opensrc.org it links to the page as Free Software Musicians. Everyone happy now? James

Last Wednesday 11 May 2005 16:44, jmstone(a)dsl.pipex.com was like: James, well done and thanks. It is important what label we use and no, there isn't a particularly graceful one, whatever your point of view. I'm actually quite impressed at how short this thread is. ;) I like Dave's 'uncommonly creative musicians', although maybe the truth is closer to dunbetatestin. *sigh* - I _will_ sign up and I faithfully promise to Actually Make Some Music with all this wonderful Free Software we now have at our disposal. cheers, tim hall http://glastonburymusic.org.uk

I agree to that sentiment - http://www.pawfal.org/openlab/ we opted for people who use free software, rather than anything more draconian. People who use PD on windows are welcome for instance. dave