26 Mar
2003
26 Mar
'03
6:44 p.m.
Hello,
I'm looking at (for now) utilizing the SB 128PCI's I have laying around
and doing 3 of those for input and 1 SB Live Value for midi and output.
Any recommendations against that, or thoughts that an SB 16 PCI would be
better? I have access to a few of those as well.
As I said in my posts awhile back, I have 2 instrument mics, 1 vocal mic,
and a keyboard with midi. The mics are all XLR with 1/4" (transformers?).
Will I be needing any preamps/mixer for these? If so any recommendations
for something with 3 mic preamps?
I apoligize for all the questions. I'm quite new to the audio world and
have only ever had real user experience with Soundforge on a win98 box :)
I'm looking forward to some hardcore stuff once I learn.
Thanks!
Bryan
31 Mar
31 Mar
3:24 p.m.
Bryan Koschmann - GKT wrote:
Hello,
I'm looking at (for now) utilizing the SB 128PCI's I have laying around
and doing 3 of those for input and 1 SB Live Value for midi and output.
You will be unhappy with this arrangement because the cards are not
timed perfectly, and will slowly drift in time with respect to one another.
As I said in my posts awhile back, I have 2 instrument mics, 1 vocal mic,
and a keyboard with midi. The mics are all XLR with 1/4" (transformers?).
Will I be needing any preamps/mixer for these? If so any recommendations
for something with 3 mic preamps?
I'm guessing that your mics are in around the $50 price range.
If they are condensers, then you have mics that will perform
ok for casual recording. your main problem here is going to
be noise, noise, noise. Aside from stepping up to $200 -$300
mics, the greatest favor that you could do for yourself on a
budget would be to get some channels of decent mic pre.
I went with a Mackie 1202-VLZPro mixer I got one new for
around $350 when it was first introduced. It was worth every
penny. I'm pretty happy with the mic pre's. They are really
clean. You get four channels with preamp, plus four *stereo*
channels, which are the greatest thing since whoopie. It's like
a good deal on mic pre's with a mixer attached.
This would also give you the ability to run your mics
balanced ( using XLR on both ends of the cable) which should
make them run a little quieter. You really have to do this in
order to use the Mackie properly. i'm assuming that you have
a couple of Radio Shack mics that are really balanced,
but end in unbalanced phone plug so as not to confuse the
uninitiated.
The mixer also gives you the ability to run mics that need
phantom power, which they will, when you finally realize that
your present mics are crippling your recordings, and you move
up to the low end pro stuff.
For what it's worth, I bought two Marshall MXL2001 large
diaphragm condensers, and while they are now the noisiest
link in my setup, I think that they were a steal at $300/pair.
They are definitely way quieter than my old R/S condensors,
(which were also a good deal at $20 each), but I HATE noise,
and so another upgrade will be in order. Next stop is maybe
Neumann TLM103's at $1500/pair. Geze, I could buy a car for
that much money.
Tobiah
6:33 p.m.
On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, Tobiah wrote:
Tobiah,
First thank you for the reply. It has been very informative and I really
appreciate you taking the time to respond.
|You will be unhappy with this arrangement because the cards are not
|timed perfectly, and will slowly drift in time with respect to one another.
I have decided to use SB Lives for now (3-4 of them). I was told here that
they could also pose the same problem, it is okay for now as I am just
getting started doing some recording for home stuff.
|I'm guessing that your mics are in around the $50 price range.
|If they are condensers, then you have mics that will perform
|ok for casual recording. your main problem here is going to
|be noise, noise, noise. Aside from stepping up to $200 -$300
|mics, the greatest favor that you could do for yourself on a
|budget would be to get some channels of decent mic pre.
They were in fact around $50. Two Shure PG-57s and 1 Shure PG-48. I have
been trying to figure out what all I need, as I am quite confused about
the mixers and preamps. I shall explain later
|I went with a Mackie 1202-VLZPro mixer I got one new for
|around $350 when it was first introduced. It was worth every
|penny. I'm pretty happy with the mic pre's. They are really
I priced this and it is out of my price range now but will be within the
next month or two.
|This would also give you the ability to run your mics
|balanced ( using XLR on both ends of the cable) which should
|make them run a little quieter. You really have to do this in
|order to use the Mackie properly. i'm assuming that you have
|a couple of Radio Shack mics that are really balanced,
|but end in unbalanced phone plug so as not to confuse the
|uninitiated.
I hate Radio Shack :) I got the Shures from Ted Brown music. They have XLR
plugs and I have a "transformer" for a 1/4".
|The mixer also gives you the ability to run mics that need
|phantom power, which they will, when you finally realize that
|your present mics are crippling your recordings, and you move
|up to the low end pro stuff.
That would be helpful down the line. I am sure I will be upgrading
equipment when my needs grow, however for now I'll have to stick with my
current mics. Any input on the Shure mics for a newbie?
Thanks for the help,
Bryan
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