24 Jan
2008
24 Jan
'08
10:12 a.m.
I received an email from a film producer (based in Los Angeles, probably
an indie studio) in which he wrote that the director of a movie they're
just finishing (they're at post-production stage) is interested in using
two tracks of mine, 'Balloon' (http://www.cesaremarilungo.com/media) and
'As we grow older' (http://www.cesaremarilungo.com/media/the-moon-ep).
I released these tracks under a non-commercial Creative Commons license:
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/deed-music.
In the past some of my music has been used for some short films, but
these were clearly non commercial projects or film schools thesis.
Has anybody some experience on this topic? What should I do? Should I
re-license these tracks? Can I just make them a written permission? Or
should I ask for some kind of royalty (or would it be ridiculous, also
considering that AFAIK Gyorgy Ligeti has never been paid for its music
on '2001 A space odyssey' :-) )?
Thanks in advance,
- c.
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24 Jan
24 Jan
10:52 a.m.
Am Donnerstag, 24. Januar 2008 schrieb Cesare Marilungo:
I received an email from a film producer (based in Los
Angeles, probably
an indie studio) in which he wrote that the director of a movie they're
just finishing (they're at post-production stage) is interested in using
two tracks of mine, 'Balloon' (http://www.cesaremarilungo.com/media) and
'As we grow older' (http://www.cesaremarilungo.com/media/the-moon-ep).
I released these tracks under a non-commercial Creative Commons license:
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/deed-music.
In the past some of my music has been used for some short films, but
these were clearly non commercial projects or film schools thesis.
Has anybody some experience on this topic? What should I do? Should I
re-license these tracks? Can I just make them a written permission? Or
should I ask for some kind of royalty (or would it be ridiculous, also
considering that AFAIK Gyorgy Ligeti has never been paid for its music
on '2001 A space odyssey' :-) )?
You can publish your works under every license you want. Can even be two or
more licenses. So you don't need to re-license the tracks you published on
the net, you can simply send them the tracks with a letter "I hereby grant
them...", you can define the rules in there too (like payment).
But they probably can not make you sign a letter stating that you give them
exclusive rights or even sell your rights to them unless you manage to remove
all the versions from the net (and the users computers/players)...
But I am not a layer and my knowledge is _very_ small.
Arnold
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11:18 a.m.
hi c
im also always confused with legal stuff concerning art but my oppinion is:
if their project is commercial and they make money with it i think you
should also get some money to (if you want it so)
on your current license it says:
"Noncommercial. You may not use this work for commercial purposes."
except if author (you) allows it.
my point is - it is your work and you can do with it whatever you want
correct me if im wrong
greets
nikola
Cesare Marilungo wrote:
I received an email from a film producer (based in Los
Angeles, probably
an indie studio) in which he wrote that the director of a movie they're
just finishing (they're at post-production stage) is interested in using
two tracks of mine, 'Balloon' (http://www.cesaremarilungo.com/media) and
'As we grow older' (http://www.cesaremarilungo.com/media/the-moon-ep).
I released these tracks under a non-commercial Creative Commons license:
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/deed-music.
In the past some of my music has been used for some short films, but
these were clearly non commercial projects or film schools thesis.
Has anybody some experience on this topic? What should I do? Should I
re-license these tracks? Can I just make them a written permission? Or
should I ask for some kind of royalty (or would it be ridiculous, also
considering that AFAIK Gyorgy Ligeti has never been paid for its music
on '2001 A space odyssey' :-) )?
Thanks in advance,
- c.
3:04 p.m.
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:06:07 +0100
Cesare Marilungo <cesare(a)poeticstudios.com> wrote:
I received an email from a film producer (based in Los
Angeles, probably
an indie studio) in which he wrote that the director of a movie they're
just finishing (they're at post-production stage) is interested in using
two tracks of mine, 'Balloon' (http://www.cesaremarilungo.com/media) and
'As we grow older' (http://www.cesaremarilungo.com/media/the-moon-ep).
I released these tracks under a non-commercial Creative Commons license:
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/deed-music.
In the past some of my music has been used for some short films, but
these were clearly non commercial projects or film schools thesis.
Has anybody some experience on this topic? What should I do? Should I
re-license these tracks? Can I just make them a written permission? Or
should I ask for some kind of royalty (or would it be ridiculous, also
considering that AFAIK Gyorgy Ligeti has never been paid for its music
on '2001 A space odyssey' :-) )?
Thanks in advance,
- c.
See a lawyer. No 'ifs' no 'buts'.
--
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk
3:16 p.m.
New subject: [OT] creative commons non-commercial licensed music - ask for advice
Perhaps you can directly contact Creative Commons to ask them.
2008/1/24, Folderol <folderol(a)ukfsn.org>rg>:
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:06:07 +0100
Cesare Marilungo <cesare(a)poeticstudios.com> wrote:
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I received an email from a film producer (based
in Los Angeles, probably
an indie studio) in which he wrote that the director of a movie they're
just finishing (they're at post-production stage) is interested in using
two tracks of mine, 'Balloon' (http://www.cesaremarilungo.com/media) and
'As we grow older' (http://www.cesaremarilungo.com/media/the-moon-ep).
I released these tracks under a non-commercial Creative Commons license:
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/deed-music.
In the past some of my music has been used for some short films, but
these were clearly non commercial projects or film schools thesis.
Has anybody some experience on this topic? What should I do? Should I
re-license these tracks? Can I just make them a written permission? Or
should I ask for some kind of royalty (or would it be ridiculous, also
considering that AFAIK Gyorgy Ligeti has never been paid for its music
on '2001 A space odyssey' :-) )?
Thanks in advance,
- c.
See a lawyer. No 'ifs' no 'buts'.
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http://www.musically.me.uk
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5:15 p.m.
Hi,
Cesare Marilungo wrote:
I received an email from a film producer (based in Los
Angeles, probably
an indie studio) in which he wrote that the director of a movie they're
just finishing (they're at post-production stage) is interested in using
two tracks of mine, 'Balloon' (http://www.cesaremarilungo.com/media) and
'As we grow older' (http://www.cesaremarilungo.com/media/the-moon-ep).
good for you!
This situation is quite simple really. They need permission to use your
copyrighted work. They can't use the CC licensed version because the
terms don't cover them. The CC licensed version is therefore no longer
in the picture, and this transaction has nothing to do with the CC
people either for that matter.
So what is left over is just the simple and common case of someone (film
maker) wanting to use a copyrighted work and having to get permission or
some kind of license / contract with the copyright holder (you). You can
just grant permission if you like, or negotiate some kind of agreement
possibly involving royalties and/or some other conditions.
Go talk to a lawyer for the details. This is bread and butter stuff for
them.
cheers,
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25 Jan
25 Jan
3:01 a.m.
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, Cesare Marilungo wrote:
Has anybody some experience on this topic? What should
I do? Should I
re-license these tracks? Can I just make them a written permission? Or
should I ask for some kind of royalty (or would it be ridiculous, also
considering that AFAIK Gyorgy Ligeti has never been paid for its music
on '2001 A space odyssey' :-) )?
From what I've heard, the big commercial studios are overly conservative
about rights, and willingly pay for even incidental use of a song, which
some would argue is clearly under 'fair use'. I have a friend who is
getting regular checks for a song that was playing on the jukebox in the
next room while the actor was making a phone call. It's all of 30
seconds, and you have to concentrate on ignoring the primary action and
dialog in order to recognize the song, but the studio is gladly writing
checks. Go for it!
--
Rick Green
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
-Benjamin Franklin
10:03 p.m.
New subject: [OT] creative commons non-commercial licensed music - ask for advice
On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 03:06:07PM +0100, Cesare Marilungo wrote:
I received an email from a film producer (based in Los
Angeles, probably
an indie studio) in which he wrote that the director of a movie they're
just finishing (they're at post-production stage) is interested in using
two tracks of mine, 'Balloon' (http://www.cesaremarilungo.com/media) and
'As we grow older' (http://www.cesaremarilungo.com/media/the-moon-ep).
I released these tracks under a non-commercial Creative Commons license:
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/deed-music.
In the past some of my music has been used for some short films, but
these were clearly non commercial projects or film schools thesis.
Has anybody some experience on this topic? What should I do? Should I
re-license these tracks? Can I just make them a written permission? Or
should I ask for some kind of royalty (or would it be ridiculous, also
considering that AFAIK Gyorgy Ligeti has never been paid for its music
on '2001 A space odyssey' :-) )?
Thanks in advance,
Congratulations! I consider licensing deals the holy grail; much as I love publishing my
work as CC-BY-SA, and will continue to do so, I would love to close a licensing deal and
make some money. More money == more time to make music and more ability to upgrade gear in
the future if needed. Moby, here I come.
You may cross-license anything any way you like. You own it. The rights you define via any
license are for anyone else, not for you. But be careful in any contract you might sign,
to make sure it doesn't restrict you from licensing it any way you want (the scary
word to look for here is "exclusive").
Definitely see a lawyer. Not just any lawyer, but an entertainment industry lawyer with
experience in Hollywood. The big issue here isn't so much legal as negotiating
leverage: how much do these guys want your music, and how much are they willing to pay for
it? Make sure you get a fair price. I recommend a lawyer whose offices are in Los Angeles
for something like this, and who is very active in the movie industry.
By the way, I put some of my music up on musicsupervisor.com on a bandmember's
recommendation. It looks like it might be a good site for trying to get licensing deals.
Also, Magnatune.com operates this way too: they try to find licensing deals (movies, TV,
commercials, games, ringtones, etc.) and they split it 50% with you. I haven't
submitted anything to them yet because I can't choose what to send them, I have too
much stuff.
-ken
26 Jan
26 Jan
12:59 a.m.
New subject: [LAU] [OT] creative commons non-commercial licensed music - ask for advice
On Friday 25 January 2008 19:03:02 Ken Restivo wrote:
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Cesare Marilungo <cesare(a)poeticstudios.com>
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A list for linux audio users <linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org>
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On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 03:06:07PM +0100, Cesare Marilungo wrote:
I received an email from a film producer (based in Los
Angeles, probably
an indie studio) in which he wrote that the director of a movie they're
just finishing (they're at post-production stage) is interested in using
two tracks of mine, 'Balloon' (http://www.cesaremarilungo.com/media) and
'As we grow older' (http://www.cesaremarilungo.com/media/the-moon-ep).
I released these tracks under a non-commercial Creative Commons license:
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/deed-music.
In the past some of my music has been used for some short films, but
these were clearly non commercial projects or film schools thesis.
Has anybody some experience on this topic? What should I do? Should I
re-license these tracks? Can I just make them a written permission? Or
should I ask for some kind of royalty (or would it be ridiculous, also
considering that AFAIK Gyorgy Ligeti has never been paid for its music
on '2001 A space odyssey' :-) )?
Thanks in advance,
Congratulations! I consider licensing deals the holy grail; much as I love
publishing my work as CC-BY-SA, and will continue to do so, I would love to
close a licensing deal and make some money. More money == more time to make
music and more ability to upgrade gear in the future if needed. Moby, here I
come.
You may cross-license anything any way you like. You own it. The rights you
define via any license are for anyone else, not for you. But be careful in
any contract you might sign, to make sure it doesn't restrict you from
licensing it any way you want (the scary word to look for here
is "exclusive").
Definitely see a lawyer. Not just any lawyer, but an entertainment industry
lawyer with experience in Hollywood. The big issue here isn't so much legal
as negotiating leverage: how much do these guys want your music, and how much
are they willing to pay for it? Make sure you get a fair price. I recommend a
lawyer whose offices are in Los Angeles for something like this, and who is
very active in the movie industry.
By the way, I put some of my music up on musicsupervisor.com on a bandmember's
recommendation. It looks like it might be a good site for trying to get
licensing deals. Also, Magnatune.com operates this way too: they try to find
licensing deals (movies, TV, commercials, games, ringtones, etc.) and they
split it 50% with you. I haven't submitted anything to them yet because I
can't choose what to send them, I have too much stuff.
-ken
Thanks for the leads.
Does anyone know of similar sites that cater to background and audio effects?
Thanks
Tom
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