On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 19:02 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: That's a good question. I wouldn't try it, as I think it's safer to rebuild the version shipped with your distro. I did put up a .deb package for Breezy on my wiki, but it could be out of date now, I don't know. I've been running Dapper for months to help out with packaging. Dana

I'm posting this just as a perspective ... I would rather use *BSD. for 2 reasons: reason 1: (not really relevant here) I like unix at its roots, it just makes me feel good. reason 2: (totally effin relevant) The BSDs don't have this fractured user base. Sure you can switch between Net* Open* and Free* (Dragon* too), but you do that for big reasons *UP-FRONT*. Its frustrating how fractured linux has become. (But, maybe it always was.) Switching distros *IS* a solution. Switching distros *IS* a solution that should only happen *ONCE* because your switching from a bad distro. unix/linux is beautiful (in one sense, not all) because it lasts. You can come back to a system that been sitting in a closet (or sitting at a colo, doing its job) *YEARS* later, and there it is. The computer. Working. Working well. That's really nice. I use linux because of ALSA, period. We need to realize that an audio workstation is not a "server". It is obvious that realtime takes precedence over security in "audio land". (I don't mean that in a bad way at all.) BUT, linux is still a server OS too. Its kind of everything. uhmm, i don't remember what my point was, but i wrote too much to delete it.... -- paul w

Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: I don't know exactly how accurate this is wrt debian vs ubuntu, but perhaps it would be useful to think of debian-based distros more in the sense of the relation that demudi has to debian proper. That is to say that the ubuntus and demudis and knoppixes, etc, etc, etc, are more customized ways of getting a debian system installed or running than separate fractured distros. They are like the various development branches of the kernel, or any other large project, in a sense. They exist because they are useful to a certain subset of the main project's users and because they allow certain subsets of needs and problems to be worked out. In the ideal world view those branched efforts will get folded back into the mainline project once the issues are sorted out. just my two cents, hopefully furthering Erik's point. -Eric Rz.