At 16.07 21/07/04, you wrote: Thanks all! I looked to AKG 240m, but I don't like the close system, sometimes I need to listen clearly to collegues who are playing with me, and with close systems it is So hard... there is another thing important for my hears: the pressure... Sennheiser has 3.5 N... I don't really know what does it means, but I try to listen to Strauss "Domestic symphony" and the sound was completely better for my hears: no hard pressure when trombones, tuba, timpanies and grand cass play so loud!!! with AKG my hear hurt after a minute... I think I will go to an open system... but let me know what do you think about it! thanks so much!!! ste Stefano Cardo Debian DeMuDi GNU/Linux User --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.722 / Virus Database: 478 - Release Date: 18/07/04

On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 04:07:12PM +0200, Emiliano Grilli wrote: +1 but headphones are very personal, try a bunch and see what works for you. Some phones make my head hurt after five minutes. Some are described as "detailed" but merely sound shrill to me. The K-240 are comfortable to me and I like the sound. -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com