6 Jan
2012
6 Jan
'12
6:17 p.m.
Hi all
I've just moved to Germany and am still setting up my new studio. While
its insanely quick and easy to buy gear here I was thinking of rolling
my own studio monitors (with the help of a very handy father-in-law)
Has anyone here done this and is it possible to do this oneself? Some
plans/specifications would go a long way (or should I not bother)
What I'm looking at is something similar to the yamaha HSM80's or the
Adam A7's
many thanks
Brendan
6 Jan
6 Jan
7:09 p.m.
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 06:17:28PM +0100, Brendan Jones wrote:
Hi all
I've just moved to Germany and am still setting up my new studio.
While its insanely quick and easy to buy gear here I was thinking of
rolling my own studio monitors (with the help of a very handy
father-in-law)
Has anyone here done this and is it possible to do this oneself?
Some plans/specifications would go a long way (or should I not
bother)
Well, I'm sure it's possible given the right amount of knowledge
and
craftiness, and I'm sure pundits on this list will point you the right
way. I just wanted to say that monitors, unlike regular loudspeakers,
should be calibrated (to be flat) and that might be time-consuming and
require additional instruments (though, of course, you'd have gear
tailored specifically to your environment at the end). I guess my
concern would be to make sure it doesn't end up costing as much as
buying a ready-made commercial solution.
Let us know how you make out.
cheers,
S.M>
10:58 p.m.
2012/1/6 S. Massy <lists(a)wolfdream.ca>
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 06:17:28PM +0100, Brendan
Jones wrote:
Keep in mind that it's not 'just' the making a 'box'. There are a lot
of
parameters that are important to get it right.
Assuming you are making powered monitors (since these are the most common
type of studio monitors these days) and these are normally bi-amped you
will need to match amp>tweeters + amp>mid-speakers + build a crossover +
symmetrical>asymmetrical signal transformer ...
imho it will be near impossible to build speakers that match up with the
ones you can buy
it will take more than just 1 try to get it right, this will take time,
cost money and i think you need to decide what you want to do :
do you want to make music, or do you want to make a good monitor
if you want to make music : buy your monitors
but if you decide to build them yourself i'm absolutely very interested in
hearing about it ! blog about it maybe ?
good luck!
Thijs
Hi all
I've just moved to Germany and am still setting up my new studio.
While its insanely quick and easy to buy gear here I was thinking of
rolling my own studio monitors (with the help of a very handy
father-in-law)
Has anyone here done this and is it possible to do this oneself?
Some plans/specifications would go a long way (or should I not
bother)
Well, I'm sure it's possible given the right amount of knowledge
and
craftiness, and I'm sure pundits on this list will point you the right
way. I just wanted to say that monitors, unlike regular loudspeakers,
should be calibrated (to be flat) and that might be time-consuming and
require additional instruments (though, of course, you'd have gear
tailored specifically to your environment at the end). I guess my
concern would be to make sure it doesn't end up costing as much as
buying a ready-made commercial solution.
Let us know how you make out.
cheers,
S.M>
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7 Jan
7 Jan
7:03 a.m.
On 01/06/2012 12:17 PM, Brendan Jones wrote:
Hi all
I've just moved to Germany and am still setting up my new studio.
While its insanely quick and easy to buy gear here I was thinking of
rolling my own studio monitors (with the help of a very handy
father-in-law)
Has anyone here done this and is it possible to do this oneself? Some
plans/specifications would go a long way (or should I not bother)
What I'm looking at is something similar to the yamaha HSM80's or the
Adam A7's
It's "possible." I wouldn't really recommend it though. The purpose
of
studio monitors is to act as a reference, so you know that you are
getting an accurate picture of what things really sound like. You will
tend to compensate for any coloration or inaccuracies in the monitors in
your sounds, and that will result in a mix that sounds strange on more
accurate speakers.
There are MANY aspects of a monitor that will affect the sound, and most
of them affect it in a bad way. The individual raw drivers, cabinet
shape and volume, driver alignment, vent area, duct length if you are
using ducted ports, the material you use to build the cabinet,
construction techniques, sharp edges, amount and type of batting you put
inside the cabinet, etc, etc, etc.
You can only compensate for rough frequency response with a 31 band EQ,
but the other aspects can't easily be changed or affected after the box
is built and installed.
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3:48 p.m.
Il 06/01/2012 18:17, Brendan Jones ha scritto:
Has anyone here done this and is it possible to do
this oneself? Some
plans/specifications would go a long way (or should I not bother)
What I'm looking at is something similar to the yamaha HSM80's or the
Adam A7's
I'm no expert, but after reading Mike Senior's "Mixing Secrets", I would
like to share a couple of suggestions:
- Avoid ported designs. They're always affected by some amount of
ringing ad unevenness in the bass response. Only the most expensive
commercial models manage to minimize such problems. So, that's my guess,
a closed box design should be safer for a DIY project.
- Google for "Auratone 5C": they should be the easiest studio monitors
to clone (single driver, no hi-fi at all), and a very useful tool in
your studio even when you already have "real", good monitors.
Good luck,
Guido
8 Jan
8 Jan
2:06 p.m.
On 01/07/2012 03:47 PM, Guido Piazzi wrote:
Il 06/01/2012 18:17, Brendan Jones ha scritto:
Thanks for the tip - I think your right, a simpler design is going to be
more rewarding given the sheer time and effort involved.
Cheers,
Brendan
Has anyone here done this and is it possible to
do this oneself? Some
plans/specifications would go a long way (or should I not bother)
What I'm looking at is something similar to the yamaha HSM80's or the
Adam A7's
I'm no expert, but after reading Mike Senior's "Mixing Secrets", I
would
like to share a couple of suggestions:
- Avoid ported designs. They're always affected by some amount of
ringing ad unevenness in the bass response. Only the most expensive
commercial models manage to minimize such problems. So, that's my guess,
a closed box design should be safer for a DIY project.
- Google for "Auratone 5C": they should be the easiest studio monitors
to clone (single driver, no hi-fi at all), and a very useful tool in
your studio even when you already have "real", good monitors. 
2:25 p.m.
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 14:06:24 +0100
Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 01/07/2012 03:47 PM, Guido Piazzi wrote:
I would make the point that familiarity with your monitors is as important (if
not more so) as their supposed quality. With any studio setup you should play
as wide a variety of commercially produced music as possible so that you
become familiar with the quirks more-or-less at a subconscious level. Your own
mixes will then come out much better when played on other equipment.
--
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http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
Il 06/01/2012 18:17, Brendan Jones ha scritto:
Thanks for the tip - I think your right, a simpler design is going to be
more rewarding given the sheer time and effort involved.
Cheers,
Brendan Has anyone here done this and is it possible to
do this oneself? Some
plans/specifications would go a long way (or should I not bother)
What I'm looking at is something similar to the yamaha HSM80's or the
Adam A7's
I'm no expert, but after reading Mike Senior's "Mixing Secrets", I
would
like to share a couple of suggestions:
- Avoid ported designs. They're always affected by some amount of
ringing ad unevenness in the bass response. Only the most expensive
commercial models manage to minimize such problems. So, that's my guess,
a closed box design should be safer for a DIY project.
- Google for "Auratone 5C": they should be the easiest studio monitors
to clone (single driver, no hi-fi at all), and a very useful tool in
your studio even when you already have "real", good monitors.
9 Jan
9 Jan
4:45 a.m.
On 01/08/2012 08:25 AM, Folderol wrote:
I would make the point that familiarity with your monitors is as important (if
not more so) as their supposed quality. With any studio setup you should play
as wide a variety of commercially produced music as possible so that you
become familiar with the quirks more-or-less at a subconscious level. Your own
mixes will then come out much better when played on other equipment.
Good advice. I would point out, though, that it's really important to
know the frequency range limitations of your monitors. If your monitors
have a range of 50Hz - 15kHz, for example, you could have some very
unfortunate things going on at 40Hz and not have any hint of it until
you heard the mix on a full range system. No matter how familiar you
are with your monitors, if you've got stuff going on that they can't
reproduce, you'll never know.
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und diese Lüge kriecht aus seinem Munde: 'Ich, der Staat, bin das Volk.'
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4:57 a.m.
On 8 January 2012 at 22:45, Al Thompson <althompson58(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Good advice. I would point out, though, that it's
really important to
know the frequency range limitations of your monitors. If your monitors
have a range of 50Hz - 15kHz, for example, you could have some very
unfortunate things going on at 40Hz and not have any hint of it until
you heard the mix on a full range system. No matter how familiar you
are with your monitors, if you've got stuff going on that they can't
reproduce, you'll never know.
I got a subwoofer for my near-field monitors and resurrected some
Altec-Lansing full range speakers. My mixes are much better and
translate much better since I took those steps. Now I listen on
those speakers, as well as computer speakers and headphones. If
it sounds good on all of those, then it pretty much sounds the same
everywhere.
TTFN....
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