25 Oct
2008
25 Oct
'08
12:26 p.m.
On Saturday 25 October 2008 09:34:54 you wrote:
If you email me a ssh-public key and a preferred username I'll set up
an account on linuxaudio.org for you.
I will get that to you if this looks like it could go further.
Hey Drew,
Let me take this off list; feel free to reply there though after
stripping the passwords below.
Done.
drew Roberts wrote:
OK, but I am wary of that too, thoughts anyone? A ccmixter type site would
actually host files... Hmmm, I wonder if the code could be changed to let the
internet archive host the files?
A lot of good stuff in that post and I may
respond to other stuff later,
but for now I would like to touch on the two below.
On Saturday 25 October 2008 05:40:14 Robin Gareus wrote:
I'm sorry I can't help you with that; lam.fugal.net circumvents this by
only collecting links to such songs, not the data itself. * http://ccmixter.linuxaudio.org - for a short
time.around
http://www.linuxaudio.org/mailarchive/lau/2007/11/15 we set up a
bare-bone ccmixter.org intended for Music-Made-With-Linux. Should you
desire to style and maintain a ccmixter community: here's your chance.
I am interested in such a site for music not only made with linux but
carrying Free licenses like cc BY and BY-SA. I would need help and also
am concerned about the legal aspects of running such a site. Are there
legal resources and a legal entity umbrella to help with this?
linuxaudio.org can help out with technical aspects: setup, provide
bandwidth, backup and diskspace. Someone else will need to jump in for
the license details. - I guess you will need to provide a phone-number
so that PPL can call in to remove cumbersome content :(
You are thinking DMCA type notification wrt "cumbersome content"???
*
http://radio.linuxaudio.org/
Anyone interested? shall we stream random songs from lam.fugal.net ?!
repeat talks from the LAC? or better no-stream than some weird random
mix?
Can you set up a rivendell box / network? (I can help with install and
config) If so, we could do a mix of automation and DJ picked programming.
Rivendell is quite fancy with what it can do.
a quick glance at
http://rivendell.tryphon.org/wiki/index.php/Install_under_Debian
we don't have X and we don't have jackd running (yet).
If this is only to be streamed, it can be done from a box with no sound card
if need be.
There are some alternatives to rivendell for broadcast radio in the linux
world, but I have not been able to wrap my head around the ones that seek to
be fancy like rivendell. I have run a few of the simple ones though.
If you want to try the current icecast - <<snip>>
If successful we can making radio.linuxaudio.org a dedicated machine
(share bandwidth with download.linuxaudio.org) as to not disturb users
surfing the web..
Well, the rivendell stuff would use the icecast stuff. Via darkice or ices.
This too would involve actually having the files to be played in an audio
repository and database as that is how rivendell functions. It is designed
for broadcast radio.
I'm off now, but I'll be back online later tonight and tomorrow.
robin
Thanks for the response. I would like to kick this around some and see what
the interest and support levels are before jumping into something that will
be allowed to die. I would like to see these prosper if we start them up.
all the best,
drew
26 Oct
26 Oct
8:11 p.m.
New subject: linuxaudio.org
drew Roberts schrieb:
OK, but I am wary of that too, thoughts anyone? A ccmixter type site would
actually host files... Hmmm, I wonder if the code could be changed to let the
internet archive host the files?
I don't see the problem there. If we are careful with the licenses it
should be fine to host and stream the music. Now I haven't looked at
ccmixter.org in detail but it seems to be pretty large, complicated;
probably overkill for us. What I could imagine is taking the
lam.fugal.net-add-music-page and adding some stuff: _optionally_ allow
users to upload the file instead of (or additionally to) providing a
url, requiring them to choose a license (most likely Creative Commons)
that actually allows us to host and stream the file. Visitors can then
download appropriately licensed music from linuxaudio.org. Later we
could add a moderated or random stream, in addition to a m3u playlist.
Is there really need for something like this? When we just accept
properly licensed music files?
Regards,
Burkhard
On Saturday 25 October 2008 05:40:14 Robin Gareus
wrote:
I'm sorry I
can't help you with that; lam.fugal.net circumvents this by
only collecting links to such songs, not the data itself. * http://ccmixter.linuxaudio.org - for a short
time.around
http://www.linuxaudio.org/mailarchive/lau/2007/11/15 we set up a
bare-bone ccmixter.org intended for Music-Made-With-Linux. Should you
desire to style and maintain a ccmixter community: here's your chance.
I am
interested in such a site for music not only made with linux but
carrying Free licenses like cc BY and BY-SA. I would need help and also
am concerned about the legal aspects of running such a site. Are there
legal resources and a legal entity umbrella to help with this? linuxaudio.org
can help out with technical aspects: setup, provide
bandwidth, backup and diskspace. Someone else will need to jump in for
the license details. - I guess you will need to provide a phone-number
so that PPL can call in to remove cumbersome content :(
You are thinking DMCA type notification wrt "cumbersome content"???
27 Oct
27 Oct
12:53 p.m.
New subject: linuxaudio.org
On Sunday 26 October 2008 19:11:53 Burkhard Ritter wrote:
Is there really need for something like this? When we just accept
properly licensed music files?
Unfortunately, there probably is such a need. People may put up tracks where
the work belongs to others and indicate a license that they have no right to
apply. IIRC, the folks over at ourmedia.org ran into this issue a good bit.
drew Roberts schrieb:
OK, but I am wary of that too, thoughts anyone? A ccmixter type site
would actually host files... Hmmm, I wonder if the code could be changed
to let the internet archive host the files?
I don't see the problem there. If we are careful with the licenses it
should be fine to host and stream the music. Now I haven't looked at
ccmixter.org in detail but it seems to be pretty large, complicated;
probably overkill for us. What I could imagine is taking the
lam.fugal.net-add-music-page and adding some stuff: _optionally_ allow
users to upload the file instead of (or additionally to) providing a
url, requiring them to choose a license (most likely Creative Commons)
that actually allows us to host and stream the file. Visitors can then
download appropriately licensed music from linuxaudio.org. Later we
could add a moderated or random stream, in addition to a m3u playlist.
I need to remember to comment on this when I have more time.
On Saturday 25 October 2008 05:40:14 Robin Gareus
wrote:
> * http://ccmixter.linuxaudio.org - for a short time.around
> http://www.linuxaudio.org/mailarchive/lau/2007/11/15 we set up a
> bare-bone ccmixter.org intended for Music-Made-With-Linux. Should you
> desire to style and maintain a ccmixter community: here's your chance.
I am interested in such a site for music not only made with linux but
carrying Free licenses like cc BY and BY-SA. I would need help and also
am concerned about the legal aspects of running such a site. Are there
legal resources and a legal entity umbrella to help with this?
I'm sorry I can't help you with that; lam.fugal.net circumvents this by
only collecting links to such songs, not the data itself.
linuxaudio.org can help out with technical aspects: setup, provide
bandwidth, backup and diskspace. Someone else will need to jump in for
the license details. - I guess you will need to provide a phone-number
so that PPL can call in to remove cumbersome content :(
You are thinking DMCA type notification wrt "cumbersome content"???
Regards,
Burkhard
all the best,
drew
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