8 Sep
2016
8 Sep
'16
1:54 p.m.
Hi,
We are working on a new project that is focused on childrens education and
language learning tools.
RauRau TV
http://raurau.org
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6uUlBbtctR6jIzl9eV6iww
Of course everything is done with Linux Multimedia tools.
We need some community support so that the youtube search ranking
algorithm(s) will give priority to the channel. It would be very helpful
if y'all could like/subscribe/comment/share/link to the channel.
In return I will be happy to do the same for your videos and assist with
promoting via the "Linux Music Videos" playlist.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGRkb-jpsg0XYGVkE1zpJzQtwrEGKBYO6
and also at the Linux Music Videos blog: http://videos.linux-audio.com
Please contact me directly or leave a comment on the videos and I will
link back to you.
- It should go without saying but if you want to collaborate (with profit
share) on new content for the channel please contact me directly.
--
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd
8 Sep
8 Sep
11:37 p.m.
On Thu, Sep 08, 2016 at 01:54:50PM +0200, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
We need some community support so that the youtube
search ranking
algorithm(s) will give priority to the channel. It would be very helpful
if y'all could like/subscribe/comment/share/link to the channel.
In return I will be happy to do the same for your videos and assist with
promoting via the "Linux Music Videos" playlist.
Am I the only one who finds this sort of thing utterly disgusting
(keeping in mind that it's done for profit) ?
Greetings from sunny Crete,
--
FA
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It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris
and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)
9 Sep
9 Sep
12:01 a.m.
On Thu, Sep 08, 2016 at 01:54:50PM +0200, Patrick
Shirkey wrote:
You're not very specific.
For example, are you saying that asking the LAU community to help out with
promoting our new project is deplorable or that earning money by providing
children with educational material built around classical music and
fractal animations is disgusting or is it a political view about youtube
in general?
Or are you simply proposing that no one in the LAU community should make
any money out of their art?
BTW, I forgot to mention that I also try hard to maintain a relevant and
active stream on the "linuxaudio" twitter account so it would be
motivational to see something returned to me for this project.
I've been promoting Linux Audio for almost 20 years. I'm just asking some
of the people round here to visit the new youtube channel and help me with
the SEO. If that is not acceptable then maybe you know someone with young
kids who will appreciate the channel. So far we have had a lot of positive
feedback from other parents and the material has been screen tested with
children.
If you have young children then you may even want them to watch the videos
with you. It's not very often that something that is appropriate to share
with your kids comes along on this list.
--
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd
We need some community support so that the
youtube search ranking
algorithm(s) will give priority to the channel. It would be very helpful
if y'all could like/subscribe/comment/share/link to the channel.
In return I will be happy to do the same for your videos and assist with
promoting via the "Linux Music Videos" playlist.
Am I the only one who finds this sort of thing utterly disgusting
(keeping in mind that it's done for profit) ?
12:01 a.m.
On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 21:37:03 +0000
Fons Adriaensen <fons(a)linuxaudio.org> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 08, 2016 at 01:54:50PM +0200, Patrick
Shirkey wrote:
It does have a strange, non-inviting aura. As if it was done totally,
completely, uninterested. As a kid, it could be scary :)
Speaking of, although in a more creative, jazzy way, singer UA did a
series of videos for children. With almost 500,000 views:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oViLi0KEw6g
Must have been a riot for her and comparse ont he TV set that day.
We need some community support so that the
youtube search ranking
algorithm(s) will give priority to the channel. It would be very
helpful if y'all could like/subscribe/comment/share/link to the
channel.
In return I will be happy to do the same for your videos and assist
with promoting via the "Linux Music Videos" playlist.
Am I the only one who finds this sort of thing utterly disgusting
(keeping in mind that it's done for profit) ?
12:15 a.m.
On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 21:37:03 +0000
Fons Adriaensen <fons(a)linuxaudio.org> wrote:
The content has been screen tested on kids across a vatirty of ages and
none of them were scared. They actually enjoy singing along and practicing
the vocab especially with parents participating.
On Thu, Sep 08, 2016 at 01:54:50PM +0200, Patrick
Shirkey wrote:
It does have a strange, non-inviting aura. As if it was done totally,
completely, uninterested. As a kid, it could be scary :)
We need some community support so that the
youtube search ranking
algorithm(s) will give priority to the channel. It would be very
helpful if y'all could like/subscribe/comment/share/link to the
channel.
In return I will be happy to do the same for your videos and assist
with promoting via the "Linux Music Videos" playlist.
Am I the only one who finds this sort of thing utterly disgusting
(keeping in mind that it's done for profit) ? Speaking of, although in a more creative, jazzy way,
singer UA did a
series of videos for children. With almost 500,000 views:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oViLi0KEw6g
Must have been a riot for her and comparse ont he TV set that day.
The top kids channel on youtube has had billions of views. Check out
ChuChu TV if you haven't already come across it.
As a parent with two children I know all the songs by heart and many more.
The point of this channel is not to compete with them but to do something
different. Our research has not come across any other learning material
that combines fractal animations and classical music. If you have young
children then you will know what it means to listen to the same songs for
weeks at a time. We are simply trying to provide an alternate viewing
option that will appeal to parents and children too.
Of course it is early days so we are under no illusions that we have
mastered the method yet. There's always room for improvement.
--
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd
12:47 a.m.
On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 00:15:56 +0200
"Patrick Shirkey" <pshirkey(a)boosthardware.com> wrote:
UA only did this once and it is so funny.
> On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 21:37:03 +0000
> Fons Adriaensen <fons(a)linuxaudio.org> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 08, 2016 at 01:54:50PM +0200, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>>
>> > We need some community support so that the youtube search ranking
>> > algorithm(s) will give priority to the channel. It would be very
>> > helpful if y'all could like/subscribe/comment/share/link to the
>> > channel.
>> >
>> > In return I will be happy to do the same for your videos and
>> > assist with promoting via the "Linux Music Videos" playlist.
>>
>> Am I the only one who finds this sort of thing utterly disgusting
>> (keeping in mind that it's done for profit) ?
>
> It does have a strange, non-inviting aura. As if it was done
> totally, completely, uninterested. As a kid, it could be scary :)
The content has been screen tested on kids across a
vatirty of ages
and none of them were scared. They actually enjoy singing along and
practicing the vocab especially with parents participating.
Speaking of,
although in a more creative, jazzy way, singer UA did a
series of videos for children. With almost 500,000 views:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oViLi0KEw6g
Must have been a riot for her and comparse ont he TV set that day.
The top kids channel on youtube has had billions of views. Check out
ChuChu TV if you haven't already come across it. As a parent with two children I know all the songs by
heart and many
more.
The point of this channel is not to compete with them but to do
something different. Our research has not come across any other
learning material that combines fractal animations and classical
music. If you have young children then you will know what it means to
listen to the same songs for weeks at a time. We are simply trying to
provide an alternate viewing option that will appeal to parents and
children too.
Of course it is early days so we are under no illusions that we have
mastered the method yet. There's always room for improvement.
Purely from an educational aspect, in other words, sticking to what
makes the value of a product in such a market, why would fractal
animations give any edge ? IMHO, it makes it more blurry.
What's needed from an educational point of view is conciseness,
clarity. That said, it does not mean to leave out poetry and art, of
course.
Large black backgrounds for kids are not very inviting, isn't it ? It
is understandable to have that to get the fluo out of the colours, but
black ? Black is not a welcome colour for kids, Polynesian and
elsewhere, no ? I mean, even as early days, how can business interest
be generated like that ? I agree there's room for creativity in
childrens' educational material, but black ? I refer to the video.
As a side note, wouldn't that be "kindergarten kids" instead ?
BTW, I clicked 2-3 times on the three links and after that the page
would not respond anymore. firefox browser.
1:16 a.m.
On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 00:15:56 +0200
"Patrick Shirkey" <pshirkey(a)boosthardware.com> wrote:
UA only did this once and it is so funny.
I wonder how much money and how many people were involved in the
production and marketing process. Did the artist have the support of an
established media organisation or perhaps a promotional slot on
Oprah/Ellen/The View/etc...
> On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 21:37:03 +0000
> Fons Adriaensen <fons(a)linuxaudio.org> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 08, 2016 at 01:54:50PM +0200, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>>
>> > We need some community support so that the youtube search ranking
>> > algorithm(s) will give priority to the channel. It would be very
>> > helpful if y'all could like/subscribe/comment/share/link to the
>> > channel.
>> >
>> > In return I will be happy to do the same for your videos and
>> > assist with promoting via the "Linux Music Videos" playlist.
>>
>> Am I the only one who finds this sort of thing utterly disgusting
>> (keeping in mind that it's done for profit) ?
>
> It does have a strange, non-inviting aura. As if it was done
> totally, completely, uninterested. As a kid, it could be scary :)
The content has been screen tested on kids across
a vatirty of ages
and none of them were scared. They actually enjoy singing along and
practicing the vocab especially with parents participating.
Speaking
of, although in a more creative, jazzy way, singer UA did a
series of videos for children. With almost 500,000 views:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oViLi0KEw6g
Must have been a riot for her and comparse ont he TV set that day.
The top kids channel on youtube has had billions of views. Check out
ChuChu TV if you haven't already come across it. As a parent
with two children I know all the songs by heart and many
more.
The point of this channel is not to compete with them but to do
something different. Our research has not come across any other
learning material that combines fractal animations and classical
music. If you have young children then you will know what it means to
listen to the same songs for weeks at a time. We are simply trying to
provide an alternate viewing option that will appeal to parents and
children too.
Of course it is early days so we are under no illusions that we have
mastered the method yet. There's always room for improvement.
Purely from an educational aspect, in other words, sticking to what
makes the value of a product in such a market, why would fractal
animations give any edge ? IMHO, it makes it more blurry.
What's needed from an educational point of view is conciseness,
clarity. That said, it does not mean to leave out poetry and art, of
course.
Large black backgrounds for kids are not very
inviting, isn't it ? It
is understandable to have that to get the fluo out of the colours, but
black ? Black is not a welcome colour for kids, Polynesian and
elsewhere, no ? I mean, even as early days, how can business interest
be generated like that ? I agree there's room for creativity in
childrens' educational material, but black ? I refer to the video.
It helps make the colors pop.
As a side note, wouldn't that be
"kindergarten kids" instead ?
Kinder Surprise...
BTW, I clicked 2-3 times on the three links and after
that the page
would not respond anymore. firefox browser.
Known bug. Will get round to fixing it soon.
--
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd
1:50 a.m.
On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 01:16:32 +0200
"Patrick Shirkey" <pshirkey(a)boosthardware.com> wrote:
> UA only did this once and it is so funny.
I wonder how much money and how many people were
involved in the
production and marketing process. Did the artist have the support of
an established media organisation or perhaps a promotional slot on
Oprah/Ellen/The View/etc...
Well, UA is popular. Or was, when she did pop/soul songs.
For an example, with band Fishmans:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59JboFMSXnY
The intent was not to compare with a start up. Not at all. Although,
start up or not, there are genre styles to be applied when a
conservative market is considered. Childrens' educational material is
rather conservative after all.
> Large black backgrounds for kids are not very
inviting, isn't it ?
> It is understandable to have that to get the fluo out of the
> colours, but black ? Black is not a welcome colour for kids,
> Polynesian and elsewhere, no ? I mean, even as early days, how can
> business interest be generated like that ? I agree there's room
> for creativity in childrens' educational material, but black ? I
> refer to the video.
It helps make the colors pop.
I'm afraid, for the children market, it will take more than that.
Maybe sticking to the idea of using fractal animations, if a black
background proves mandatory, might not be a good move.
> As a side note, wouldn't that be
"kindergarten kids" instead ?
Kinder Surprise...
That's what I thought. So you already got sponsoring ? :)
10:22 a.m.
On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 01:16:32 +0200
"Patrick Shirkey" <pshirkey(a)boosthardware.com> wrote:
Not really. If you spend some time watching youtube with your kid you will
see lots of weird and creepy stuff and kids still like to watch it. One of
my daughters favorites is the skeleton dance by Disney. That is all black
and literally has skeletons dancing in a graveyard. Halloween songs are
also big business for youtube kids.
Another channel leokimvideos does a lot of creppy stuff with spiders and
bugs and he has over a billion views. He is also a youtube millionaire
now.
> UA only did this once and it is so funny.
I wonder how much money and how many people were
involved in the
production and marketing process. Did the artist have the support of
an established media organisation or perhaps a promotional slot on
Oprah/Ellen/The View/etc...
Well, UA is popular. Or was, when she did pop/soul songs.
For an example, with band Fishmans:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59JboFMSXnY
The intent was not to compare with a start up. Not at all. Although,
start up or not, there are genre styles to be applied when a
conservative market is considered. Childrens' educational material is
rather conservative after all.
> Large
black backgrounds for kids are not very inviting, isn't it ?
> It is understandable to have that to get the fluo out of the
> colours, but black ? Black is not a welcome colour for kids,
> Polynesian and elsewhere, no ? I mean, even as early days, how can
> business interest be generated like that ? I agree there's room
> for creativity in childrens' educational material, but black ? I
> refer to the video.
It helps make the colors pop.
I'm afraid, for the children market, it will take more than that.
Maybe sticking to the idea of using fractal animations, if a black
background proves mandatory, might not be a good move.
> As a side
note, wouldn't that be "kindergarten kids" instead ?
Kinder Surprise...
That's what I thought. So you already got sponsoring ? :)
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