26 Jul
2006
26 Jul
'06
7:53 p.m.
Here's the background:
I'm using XMMS-1.2.10 on Fedora Core 5 to listen to various things,
mostly MP3 streams from Internet radio stations. I've a nice pair of
cans, Grado SR125, that are used for listening.
http://www.gradolabs.com/product_pages/sr125.htm
The SR125 cans are nice, in fact, they're very analytical and quite
revealing. Not exactly best for listening to 128k streams, but hey,
that's what I got, that's what I use.
The problem:
The Grado cans are a bit too harsh for my ears. I very much prefer the
Sennheiser HD600 but I'd rather keep the HD600 at home and drag the
SR125 at the office to take a beating. The frequency response graph for
the SR125 shows some peaks in the mid-high range, which are probably
part of the cause for the harshness, and also a cliff in the low
frequencies:
http://www.headphone.com/products/headphones/all-headphones/grado-sr-125.php
I would like to re-create the negative of that graph in an equalizer and
apply it somewhere in the chain. I looked at the equalizer that comes
with XMMS but there doesn't seem to be a way to create a graph that's so
fine-grained. There's only a limited amount of controls that cannot seem
to be tweaked.
How do I create such a detailed equalizer graph and apply it to XMMS?
This machine does not run JACK and I do not intend to change that. I'd
like to keep it as simple as possible since, after all, the primary
purpose of the system is to do work, not listen to music.
Is there any player that can play MP3 streams and has a better
equalizer?
Any other ideas?
--
Florin Andrei
http://florin.myip.org/
26 Jul
26 Jul
8:57 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: customize equalizer for XMMS?
On 7/27/06, Florin Andrei <florin(a)andrei.myip.org> wrote:
Here's the background:
I'm using XMMS-1.2.10 on Fedora Core 5 to listen to various things,
mostly MP3 streams from Internet radio stations. I've a nice pair of
cans, Grado SR125, that are used for listening.
http://www.gradolabs.com/product_pages/sr125.htm
The SR125 cans are nice, in fact, they're very analytical and quite
revealing. Not exactly best for listening to 128k streams, but hey,
that's what I got, that's what I use.
The problem:
The Grado cans are a bit too harsh for my ears. I very much prefer the
Sennheiser HD600 but I'd rather keep the HD600 at home and drag the
SR125 at the office to take a beating. The frequency response graph for
the SR125 shows some peaks in the mid-high range, which are probably
part of the cause for the harshness, and also a cliff in the low
frequencies:
http://www.headphone.com/products/headphones/all-headphones/grado-sr-125.php
I would like to re-create the negative of that graph in an equalizer and
apply it somewhere in the chain. I looked at the equalizer that comes
with XMMS but there doesn't seem to be a way to create a graph that's so
fine-grained. There's only a limited amount of controls that cannot seem
to be tweaked.
How do I create such a detailed equalizer graph and apply it to XMMS?
This machine does not run JACK and I do not intend to change that. I'd
like to keep it as simple as possible since, after all, the primary
purpose of the system is to do work, not listen to music.
Is there any player that can play MP3 streams and has a better
equalizer?
Any other ideas?
--
Florin Andrei
http://florin.myip.org/
Maybe use the ladspa plugin support in xmms or aqualung? Could be well suited.
Loki
9:04 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: customize equalizer for XMMS?
Loki Davison wrote:
On 7/27/06, Florin Andrei
<florin(a)andrei.myip.org> wrote:
> Here's the background:
> I'm using XMMS-1.2.10 on Fedora Core 5 to listen to various things,
> mostly MP3 streams from Internet radio stations. I've a nice pair of
> cans, Grado SR125, that are used for listening.
>
> http://www.gradolabs.com/product_pages/sr125.htm
>
> The SR125 cans are nice, in fact, they're very analytical and quite
> revealing. Not exactly best for listening to 128k streams, but hey,
> that's what I got, that's what I use.
>
> The problem:
> The Grado cans are a bit too harsh for my ears. I very much prefer the
> Sennheiser HD600 but I'd rather keep the HD600 at home and drag the
> SR125 at the office to take a beating. The frequency response graph for
> the SR125 shows some peaks in the mid-high range, which are probably
> part of the cause for the harshness, and also a cliff in the low
> frequencies:
>
> http://www.headphone.com/products/headphones/all-headphones/grado-sr-125.php
>
>
> I would like to re-create the negative of that graph in an equalizer and
> apply it somewhere in the chain. I looked at the equalizer that comes
> with XMMS but there doesn't seem to be a way to create a graph that's so
> fine-grained. There's only a limited amount of controls that cannot seem
> to be tweaked.
>
> How do I create such a detailed equalizer graph and apply it to XMMS?
>
> This machine does not run JACK and I do not intend to change that. I'd
> like to keep it as simple as possible since, after all, the primary
> purpose of the system is to do work, not listen to music.
are you using alsa?
if yes, you should run jackd, i think thats pretty easy to set up?
Is there any player that can play MP3 streams and has a better
equalizer?
Any other ideas?
--
Florin Andrei
http://florin.myip.org/
Maybe use the ladspa plugin support in xmms or aqualung? Could be well
suited.
Loki
9:05 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: customize equalizer for XMMS?
On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 08:57 +1000, Loki Davison wrote:
Maybe use the ladspa plugin support in xmms or
aqualung? Could be well
suited.
You could try a player that's still maintained... I don't think XMMS has
been updated in some time. Aqualung does not seem to be mature enough
for general use. Maybe BMP2?
Lee
9:19 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: customize equalizer for XMMS?
On 7/27/06, Lee Revell <rlrevell(a)joe-job.com> wrote:
On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 08:57 +1000, Loki Davison
wrote:
BMP2 was really dodgy last time i tried it. Heard good things about
aqualung but haven't given it a go recently.
Loki
Maybe use the ladspa plugin support in xmms or
aqualung? Could be well
suited.
You could try a player that's still maintained... I don't think XMMS has
been updated in some time. Aqualung does not seem to be mature enough
for general use. Maybe BMP2?
Lee
9:25 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: customize equalizer for XMMS?
On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 09:19 +1000, Loki Davison wrote:
On 7/27/06, Lee Revell <rlrevell(a)joe-job.com>
wrote:
Yeah, the media player situation on Linux is kind of bad. I wish the
community could pick one to standardize on and focus on improving it.
Lee
On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 08:57 +1000, Loki Davison
wrote:
BMP2 was really dodgy last time i tried it. Heard good things about
aqualung but haven't given it a go recently. Maybe use the ladspa plugin support in xmms or
aqualung? Could be well
suited.
You could try a player that's still maintained... I don't think XMMS has
been updated in some time. Aqualung does not seem to be mature enough
for general use. Maybe BMP2?
Lee
9:36 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: customize equalizer for XMMS?
Lee Revell wrote:
On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 09:19 +1000, Loki Davison
wrote:
i think on this list there should be a kind of consensus that jackd is
recomanded?
On 7/27/06, Lee Revell
<rlrevell(a)joe-job.com> wrote:
Yeah, the media player situation on Linux is kind of bad. I wish the
community could pick one to standardize on and focus on improving it.
Lee
On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 08:57 +1000, Loki Davison
wrote:
BMP2 was really dodgy last time i tried it. Heard good things about
aqualung but haven't given it a go recently.
Maybe use the ladspa plugin support in xmms or
aqualung? Could be well
suited.
You could try a player that's still maintained... I don't think
XMMS has
been updated in some time. Aqualung does not seem to be mature enough
for general use. Maybe BMP2?
Lee
9:39 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: customize equalizer for XMMS?
On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 01:36 +0200, Dragan Noveski wrote:
i think on this list there should be a kind of
consensus that jackd
is recomanded?
jackd is recommended for pro audio use but should not be required for
desktop stuff. But yes, a key requirement should be NATIVE jack support
(not bio2jack)
Lee
27 Jul
27 Jul
3:36 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: customize equalizer for XMMS?
On Wed, 2006-07-26 at 19:39 -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
jackd is recommended for pro audio use but should not be required for
desktop stuff. But yes, a key requirement should be NATIVE jack support
(not bio2jack)
My thoughts exactly.
BTW, I'm using the TAP Equalizer/BW to clear the roughness in the
mid-highs and the 4-band parametric filter to give bass a kick in the
pants. Seems to be working fine.
I wish there was a way to sort the plugins by function, not by ID. Ah
well...
--
Florin Andrei
http://florin.myip.org/
26 Jul
26 Jul
10:31 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: customize equalizer for XMMS?
On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 08:57 +1000, Loki Davison wrote:
Maybe use the ladspa plugin support in xmms
How did I forget that? :-(
Yes, there's a ton of powerful LADSPA plugins that can be used directly
from within XMMS. E.g., I loaded the TAP EQ BW and only flattened the
peak at 9kHz and filled the valley at 16kHz and... wow! what a
difference it makes!
The phones are still a bit harsh but now they're bearable.
I wish that EQ could go below 40Hz so I can fill in the hole in the low
frequencies. Well, I guess I could always load up a parametric EQ but it
would be nicer to solve all the issues with just one plugin.
Thanks!
--
Florin Andrei
http://florin.myip.org/
27 Jul
27 Jul
5:52 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: customize equalizer for XMMS?
Florin Andrei escribe:
I wish that EQ could go below 40Hz so I can fill in
the hole in the low
frequencies. Well, I guess I could always load up a parametric EQ but it
would be nicer to solve all the issues with just one plugin.
Your earphones can play frequencies at 40Hz!? Wow! }:)
Cordially, Ismael
--
When I grow up I will go there.
17 Aug
17 Aug
10:43 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: customize equalizer for XMMS?
On Wed, 2006-07-26 at 17:31 -0700, Florin Andrei wrote:
Yes, there's a ton of powerful LADSPA plugins that
can be used directly
from within XMMS. E.g., I loaded the TAP EQ BW and only flattened the
peak at 9kHz and filled the valley at 16kHz and... wow! what a
difference it makes!
The phones are still a bit harsh but now they're bearable.
I wish that EQ could go below 40Hz so I can fill in the hole in the low
frequencies. Well, I guess I could always load up a parametric EQ but it
would be nicer to solve all the issues with just one plugin.
FWIW
I'm using the XMMS LADSPA plugin, with the following filters:
- TAP Equalizer/BW with -10dB at 9kHz and +6dB at 16kHz (to fix the
hi-freq unevenness)
- 4-band parametric filter with +15dB and bandwidth 1.7 at 20Hz (to fix
the lo-freq dip)
- Simple Amplifier with a -15dB gain over the entire spectrum (otherwise
the LADSPA chain gets overloaded by the 4-band filter)
The phones sound awesome this way. The residual roughness that I was
complaining about is due to the fact that I'm listening to 128k
streaming MP3 radio stations.
--
Florin Andrei
http://florin.myip.org/
26 Jul
26 Jul
10:38 p.m.
On Wed Jul 26, 2006 at 02:53:36PM -0700, Florin Andrei wrote:
Here's the background:
I'm using XMMS-1.2.10 on Fedora Core 5 to listen to various things,
http://www.headphone.com/products/headphones/all-headphones/grado-sr-125.php
I would like to re-create the negative of that graph in an equalizer and
apply it somewhere in the chain. I looked at the equalizer that comes
with XMMS but there doesn't seem to be a way to create a graph that's so
fine-grained. There's only a limited amount of controls that cannot seem
to be tweaked.
audacious and a ladspa eq or jamin via jack. i hvent loked thru all the ladspa eq's to
see if any are nice, and when i tweaked around high frequencies in jamin i found the
results a bit fatiguing (even when the source material was vinyl->FLAC)..
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