17 Sep
2009
17 Sep
'09
9:14 a.m.
I keep on getting Xruns when trying to work with soundfonts on rosegarden or
muse, especially if I combine several sf2 banks with several audio tracks
(on Ardour, prior to use plugins). So far, I was running them through
Qsynth, but I read on the net that the combination of Qsynth,
Rosegarden/Muse and Ardour is regarded as not so stable?
Thus, if you don't mind sharing your experience, I will be thankful.
What is the best way that you use Soundfont banks in Linux?
By 'best', I mean the most stable way, without X-runs and listing/access to
all the banks and instruments in a soundfont.
Is running fluidsynth from a command line a better alternative then qsynth
and why?
(fluidsynth command line: how does one create a midi input and audio output
port for each sf2 bank?)
Can you please tell me your experience in buying professional .gig or .sf2
sounds?
Strings, pianos, accordeons especially.
Sites, prices, quality?
What is better for profesional results: .sf2 or .gig?
thanks in advance
Viktor
17 Sep
17 Sep
10:04 a.m.
Hi Viktor,
I have recently used rosgarden+fluydsynth (dssi directly from Rosegarden
and Qsynth) both 'plugged' into Ardour. Because I didn't need it,
latency was medium (i.e. not 'beeding edge' low like in live context)
but not sure exactly of the precise jack configuration (I'm on another
machine right now).
In one case I wanted to record a guitar as well, but instead of
recording directly into ardour I exported the midi/soundfont track from
ardour and used a digital recorder for the guitar (only 2 tracks).. I
guess it seems a fairly peculiar approach but in my case is was the best
to achieve decent recording environment also because my digital recorder
is not very good as sound card.
Anyway I am still experimenting as to which is the best setup for using
soundfonts.
Kind regards,
Lorenzo.
//
Viktor Mastoridis wrote:
I keep on getting Xruns when trying to work with
soundfonts on
rosegarden or muse, especially if I combine several sf2 banks with
several audio tracks (on Ardour, prior to use plugins). So far, I was
running them through Qsynth, but I read on the net that the
combination of Qsynth, Rosegarden/Muse and Ardour is regarded as not
so stable?
Thus, if you don't mind sharing your experience, I will be thankful.
What is the best way that you use Soundfont banks in Linux?
By 'best', I mean the most stable way, without X-runs and
listing/access to all the banks and instruments in a soundfont.
Is running fluidsynth from a command line a better alternative then
qsynth and why?
(fluidsynth command line: how does one create a midi input and audio
output port for each sf2 bank?)
Can you please tell me your experience in buying professional .gig or
.sf2 sounds?
Strings, pianos, accordeons especially.
Sites, prices, quality?
What is better for profesional results: .sf2 or .gig?
thanks in advance
Viktor
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3:49 p.m.
On Thu, September 17, 2009 12:14, Viktor Mastoridis wrote:
I keep on getting Xruns when trying to work with
soundfonts on rosegarden
or muse, especially if I combine several sf2 banks with several audio
tracks (on Ardour, prior to use plugins). So far, I was running them
through Qsynth, but I read on the net that the combination of Qsynth,
Rosegarden/Muse and Ardour is regarded as not so stable?
what is non-stable about it?
qsynth _is_ fluidsynth with a gui. it has no difference regarding audio
(jack) real-time performance whatsoever. both applications do use the
very same synth engine (libfluidsynth). however you can have more than
one synth engine with qsynth, a trick only possible with several
instances of fluidsynth (cli).
Thus, if you don't mind sharing your experience, I will be thankful.
What is the best way that you use Soundfont banks in Linux?
afaics, there's fluidsynth/qsynth and timidity++. you choose which is
best ;)
By 'best', I mean the most stable way, without X-runs and listing/access
to all the banks and instruments in a soundfont.
i guess either fluidsynth or qsynth fits the bill ;)
Is running fluidsynth from a command line a better
alternative then
qsynth and why? (fluidsynth command line: how does one create a midi input
and audio output port for each sf2 bank?)
as said, you can run several fluidsynth instances each with its own
soundfont loaded. you must take care of distinct fluidsynth alsa/jack
client names though, there's command line options for just that. again,
with qsynth you achieve the same with easier gui setup.
Can you please tell me your experience in buying professional .gig or
.sf2 sounds? Strings, pianos, accordeons especially.
Sites, prices, quality?
What is better for profesional results: .sf2 or .gig?
linuxsampler is best and _the_ one for .gig's, which depending on the
sample library and vendor, it's technically superior and several notches
above soundfont specification, be it in terms of multi-sample layering,
dimension and articulation. also, linuxsampler's resource management is
state-of-the-art, letting you play way bigger (and definitively
professional) sample libraries than fluidsynth/qsynth, which in fact
needs to load and lock all soundfonts _completely_ in ram, so you know
the drill ;)
cheers
--
rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela
rncbc(a)rncbc.org
5:31 p.m.
Viktor Mastoridis wrote:
I keep on getting Xruns when trying to work with
soundfonts on
rosegarden or muse, especially if I combine several sf2 banks with
several audio tracks (on Ardour, prior to use plugins). So far, I was
running them through Qsynth, but I read on the net that the
combination of Qsynth, Rosegarden/Muse and Ardour is regarded as not
so stable?
Thus, if you don't mind sharing your experience, I will be thankful.
What is the best way that you use Soundfont banks in Linux?
By 'best', I mean the most stable way, without X-runs and
listing/access to all the banks and instruments in a soundfont.
Hi Viktor,
Do you try to run Fluidsynth directly from Rosegarden ? (you can find it
in "synth plugin" on the left pannel)
You can have several runs of it, one for each MIDI track, each one can
load his sound as you like.
On my old P4 + 1GbRAM can run 10 tracks with no problem (don't have test
more cause don't need yet)
Is running fluidsynth from a command line a better
alternative then
qsynth and why?
(fluidsynth command line: how does one create a midi input and audio
output port for each sf2 bank?)
Don't know ! But think that Fluid is just a GUI
for Q (not sure of that)
Can you please tell me your experience in buying professional .gig or
.sf2 sounds?
Strings, pianos, accordeons especially.
Sites, prices, quality?
I don't use yet... Maybe a good idea ? If you do so,
could you please
let me know ?
What is better for profesional results: .sf2 or .gig?
Well, do you think a bank
including 127 differents sounds and a complete
drumset in less 100M can compete
with another one including only 1 instrument in more 1G ?? ;o))
thanks in advance
Viktor
Greets,
Fred
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8:07 p.m.
Thanks for this, guys.
You are right, .gig is superior to sf2.
But how/where should one record/edit gig-drums?
Hydrogen doesn't import gig's.
Rosegarden and Qtractor don't have dedicated drum editors (although
rosegarden has its inner LinuxSampler plugin which is good for melodic
instruments only)
The only midi sequencer that has a drum editor and can work with giga-files
as far as I know is Muse. But I can't figure out how to create a separate
channel for each of the instruments, with the option to control the
vol/pan/fx.
Any ideas here?
vm
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Fred <f.rech(a)yahoo.fr> wrote:
Viktor Mastoridis wrote:
I keep on getting Xruns when trying to work with
soundfonts on
rosegarden or muse, especially if I combine several sf2 banks with
several audio tracks (on Ardour, prior to use plugins). So far, I was
running them through Qsynth, but I read on the net that the
combination of Qsynth, Rosegarden/Muse and Ardour is regarded as not
so stable?
Thus, if you don't mind sharing your experience, I will be thankful.
What is the best way that you use Soundfont banks in Linux?
By 'best', I mean the most stable way, without X-runs and
listing/access to all the banks and instruments in a soundfont.
Hi Viktor,
Do you try to run Fluidsynth directly from Rosegarden ? (you can find it
in "synth plugin" on the left pannel)
You can have several runs of it, one for each MIDI track, each one can
load his sound as you like.
On my old P4 + 1GbRAM can run 10 tracks with no problem (don't have test
more cause don't need yet)
Is running fluidsynth from a command line a
better alternative then
qsynth and why?
(fluidsynth command line: how does one create a midi input and audio
output port for each sf2 bank?)
Don't know ! But think that Fluid is just a
GUI for Q (not sure of that)
Can you please tell me your experience in buying professional .gig or
.sf2 sounds?
Strings, pianos, accordeons especially.
Sites, prices, quality?
I don't use yet... Maybe a good idea ? If you do so,
could you please
let me know ?
What is better for profesional results: .sf2 or .gig?
Well, do you think a bank
including 127 differents sounds and a complete
drumset in less 100M can compete
with another one including only 1 instrument in more 1G ?? ;o))
thanks in advance
Viktor
Greets,
Fred
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19 Sep
2:46 a.m.
Viktor Mastoridis wrote:
Thanks for this, guys.
You are right, .gig is superior to sf2.
But how/where should one record/edit gig-drums?
Hydrogen doesn't import gig's.
Rosegarden and Qtractor don't have dedicated drum editors (although
rosegarden has its inner LinuxSampler plugin which is good for melodic
instruments only)
Rosegarden HAVE a drum editor ! click on a track and "D"
What is the drums.gig you use ??
The only midi sequencer that has a drum editor and can
work with
giga-files as far as I know is Muse. But I can't figure out how to
create a separate channel for each of the instruments, with the option
to control the vol/pan/fx.
Any ideas here?
Tapeutape, driven by Rosegarden. Outs of Tapeutape recorded in
Ardour.
HTH, Fred.
vm
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I keep on getting Xruns when trying to work with
soundfonts on
rosegarden or muse, especially if I combine several sf2 banks with
several audio tracks (on Ardour, prior to use plugins). So far,
I was
running them through Qsynth, but I read on the
net that the
combination of Qsynth, Rosegarden/Muse and Ardour is regarded as not
so stable?
Thus, if you don't mind sharing your experience, I will be thankful.
What is the best way that you use Soundfont banks in Linux?
By 'best', I mean the most stable way, without X-runs and
listing/access to all the banks and instruments in a soundfont.
Hi Viktor,
Do you try to run Fluidsynth directly from Rosegarden ? (you can
find it
in "synth plugin" on the left pannel)
You can have several runs of it, one for each MIDI track, each one can
load his sound as you like.
On my old P4 + 1GbRAM can run 10 tracks with no problem (don't
have test
more cause don't need yet)
Is running fluidsynth from a command line a
better alternative then
qsynth and why?
(fluidsynth command line: how does one create a midi input and audio
output port for each sf2 bank?)
Don't know ! But think that Fluid is just
a GUI for Q (not sure of
that)
Can you please tell me your experience in buying professional
.gig or
.sf2 sounds?
Strings, pianos, accordeons especially.
Sites, prices, quality?
I don't use yet... Maybe a good idea ? If you do
so, could you please
let me know ?
What is better for profesional results: .sf2 or .gig?
Well, do you think a
bank including 127 differents sounds and a
complete
drumset in less 100M can compete
with another one including only 1 instrument in more 1G ?? ;o))
thanks in advance
Viktor
Greets,
Fred
23 Sep
23 Sep
8:03 p.m.
On 09/19/2009 02:46 PM, Fred wrote:
Available from http://www.tardigrade-inc.com/index.php/En/Tapeutape
Viktor Mastoridis wrote:
...
Any ideas
here?
Tapeutape, driven by Rosegarden. Outs of Tapeutape recorded in Ardour.
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