On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Rafal Zawadzki <bluszcz(a)bluszcz.net> wrote: would you care to expand on these issues on ardour-users? (or here, but it can be a bit noisy in here) mixbus is based on the same codebase as ardour. almost all fixes that would affect stability are done in the ardour2 branch and then merged into the mixbus branch. --p

Hi. Snipplets of what Rafal Zawadzki wrote: I personally find Ardour very stable for waht I've done with it so far and the interface professional and usable, considering it is a full-fledged DAW. I also think that a comment like that is pretty useless if you don't take care to expand on what you think is 'annoying', as I think Paul is politely suggesting. Maybe you should have searched around or asked in here or in IRC and find out you can easily do it by selectong "grid" in the grid dropdown and setting it to "region bounds" if I understand correctly what you were trying to do. Lorenzo

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Rafal Zawadzki <bluszcz(a)bluszcz.net> wrote: just to be clear, the reason i asked is not that i think that your comment is useless, but because i'm always interested and open to suggestions from people that have issues with my software. it doesn't necessarily mean i'll act on their ideas, but i certainly want to hear about them and their experiences.

Hi Paul. About my experiences with Ardour, first thing about I've never mentioned - I really appreciated ardour during recording - possibility to expose by defaualt every channel audio with its own name in jack - for now I haven't found another one (working with Linux such) with such intuitive and useful approach. But after recording material (5 channels - 2xvoc, drums, bass, guitar) we started to mixing it down. Routing and mixer + also intuitive usage of plugins on mixer - was very nice. Unfortunately at this point my ardour started to crash - for now I don't remember exactly details (it was around 2,5 months ago). I was using KXStudio based on Ubuntu Lucid (32 bit) on Dell XPSM1330 (3GB ram), latest ardour - 2.8.11 - for that time... Fast saves of snapshots became really helpful. At some we found, that drums are bit desyncronised in recording and we would like them to tune a bit. So I started to slice them and we wanted connect them - we found problem. For 1,5 hour 3 ppl (1 very technical, 1 half technical, 1 non technical) were not able to find an easy / any way to activate it. Problem supposed to be easy - create new drum track based on sliced samples - alliging / snapping them,. And yes, we made it - zooming it to to maximum and alligning carefully with hand on zoomed waveform... Today I opened ardour, read small sample, set snapping to region ends and magnetic - and it did work. No clue - maybe problem was realet with "weight of project" and that everything working slow? (2,5 hours of recorind for 5 channels - ardour on my not too fast laptop was pretty). For now I don't access to this project to check this behaviour once again. Hm, saying more - now even snapping to beat work. Dunno. Another problem which we experienced - ardour was slow on zooming - mooving the workspace. Probably faster machine would resolve the problem - but another DAW here (Linux) was faster.... Another of problem was editing of sample in details - finally we finished with exporting them to audacity and so on.... Ok, this about my experiences using Ardour as Multi track recorder - one problem looks like is resolved for me - but will have to check again on big project. About my "useless" word - I was referring to work with Ardour as software to create music. For me, personally is difficult to focus on creativity when I don't have access to built in "piano player", "step sequencer" just out of the box. I know (or at least I read about it) about seq24 and possibility to use it - but never tried it and for sure it is not so usefull like possibility to edit notes directly from DAW (for example energyXT has both - piano roll and simply but very useful drum sequencer , and renoise tracker way of editiing provides both. In both its easy integrated with automations.... I think that ardour works excellent as part of jack framework and integrates all other apps like Hydrogen / seq24... But I haven't used to such way of editing and always preferable "batteries included" approach. I read that piano roll will be part of ardour3 - thats sounds very promising... Anyway, I read a bit about ardour on this maillist and for sure will give another try once again :) Cheers and thanks for patient for frustrated sometimes users ;) bluszcz On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:31:44 -0500, Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote: is -- Rafal bluszcz Zawadzki Django / Plone / Python / dub / drum&bass http://dev.bluszcz.net/tech-blog http://soundcloud.com/bluszcz # 371 words, 1 message

On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:53:17 -0800 (PST), Ivan K <ivan_521521(a)yahoo.com> wrote: My bogocity (spam filtering) was working debug mode. -- Rafal bluszcz Zawadzki Django / Plone / Python / dub / drum&bass http://dev.bluszcz.net/tech-blog http://soundcloud.com/bluszcz

Am 27.02.2011 12:11, schrieb Jörn Nettingsmeier: I can second that. A2 works production-stable for me both on a quad-core with MAudio 1024 card or Presonus Firebox under Suse 11.2 with jengelh-RT-kernel and on a Thinkpad T60 with MAudio Mobile pro or built-in HDA under Fedora14/CCRMA -- with the very same 30+ track projects with dozens of plugins including experimental CALF-SVN-Snapshots. With less than 10ms latency. I suspect problems with the system-setup and/or kernel. You mean: automagically slicing, then "quantizing" everything? I seldom do stuff like that. Remember, that all the other instruments in the band have played with the drummer as you have recorded the material. Repairing one or 2 glitches in timing may be done with technology-tricks but if really the complete drum-track is off, would it not be considerable to re-record? At the other hand: if the drums should be "desynchronized" alltogether, they should be in time internally. so you would not need to slice, just move the complete regions. Anyway: the band has actually *played* the songs like this. Within 1.5 h it should be possible to make a better recording? Only, if you want to record MIDI-notes in the first place. Such as: drums being triggering Hydrogen or another sampler. Instruments played by hand and singers will be more or less the same in A3. best regs HZN

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Rafal Zawadzki <bluszcz(a)bluszcz.net> wrote: the operation is called "align" and there are about 8 variants of it. you just need to set the snap setting to "region ends" to make it use other regions as the point to align to. if you're ever working during the US east coast "daytime" (UTC-5), use the Help->Chat option to get into our IRC room where someone could have instantly told you about this. it would be unlikely, yes. what version of ardour were you using and on what distro?