6 Jan
2005
6 Jan
'05
11:41 a.m.
Dave Phillips:
The sources are to different. Ceres3 only supports mono-files and is
very non-thread-safe.
There are two options, either implement the missing features in ceres
to ceres3, or the missing features in ceres3 to ceres1.
Both are quite much work, but I think the last one is the least.
I'm
thinking about renaming Ceres as Ceres4, because Ceres3 sounds
newer and better than Ceres. But if I did, Ceres4 would sounds newer
and better than Ceres3 again, which might not be true either.
(Well, to be hounest, I sometimes think Ceres3 should be named something
non-ceres though. It is a bit confusing.)
As you know, Ceres has had a few hands working on it. I ported the first
Linux version back in 1997 or so, and many developers have added
features to various versions since that time. What we need is a
SuperCeres that incorporates all those features into a single version.
I'm not sure why Stanko should change the name of
Ceres3. His work
predates your own, and his naming convention simply followed the
succession starting from the original Ceres (Oyvind Hammer), Ceres2
(Jonathon Lee), and Ceres2w (WAV support added).
Øyvind Hammer has been working on Ceres in all years, the latest version
(0.15) was released in 2001 if I remember correctly, before I took over.
Even then, it compaired fairly to ceres3. So he never
stopped the development of ceres, still other people released both
ceres2, ceres2w and ceres3. I don't know why, perhaps they had good
reasons.
A superceres would be nice, but the fork happened for a very very long
time ago, and an integration is not an easy task.
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6 Jan
6 Jan
12:27 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] spectral correction
Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen wrote:
The sources are to different. Ceres3 only supports
mono-files and is
very non-thread-safe.
Ceres3 will load L, R, or L+R stereo files.
Its thread safety is probably not so good.
There are two options, either implement the missing
features in ceres
to ceres3, or the missing features in ceres3 to ceres1.
Both are quite much work, but I think the last one is the least.
I think your version is the one to keep up-to-date. Libsndfile support
is important, as is JACK support. I can start sending you comments
regarding the major differences between Ceres and Ceres3 if you like.
Øyvind Hammer has been working on Ceres in all years,
the latest version
(0.15) was released in 2001 if I remember correctly, before I took over.
Even then, it compaired fairly to ceres3. So he never
stopped the development of ceres, still other people released both
ceres2, ceres2w and ceres3. I don't know why, perhaps they had good reasons.
I had many email exchanges with Dr Hammer during that period. The other
versions had his blessings, he was I think too busy to add things like
WAV file support and stereo file support, and many bugs were not being
addressed. IIRC he was doing more work in paleontology. We occasionally
discussed dinosaurs too... :)
A superceres would be nice, but the fork happened for a
very very long
time ago, and an integration is not an easy task.
I can see that integrating the codebases would be problematic, but it
might still be helpful to see what actually remains in Ceres3 that has
not yet made it into your code. I'll try to do a more serious comparison
this week and will send the results to you if you want them.
Btw, thank you for all your excellent work in Linux audio software. I
don't know if many people realize how much you've contributed, but I do,
so thank you very much. :)
Best regards,
dp
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