15 Jan
2006
15 Jan
'06
3:48 p.m.
On 11:48 AM Jan Depner wrote:
I find it amusing that so many people who won't
use MP3 due to its
> "encumbrance" will happily run the proprietary Nvidia driver...
Is there an alternative to the Nvidia driver? If so, I sure would like
to know what it is!
brad
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15 Jan
15 Jan
3:54 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] ogg for Windows made really easy
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 12:47 -0800, Brad Fuller wrote:
On 11:48 AM Jan Depner wrote:
Yes, the open source "nv" driver. Does not support hardware accelerated
3D, but then again we care more about free software than being able to
use every bell and whistle, right?
Lee
I find it amusing that so many people who
won't use MP3 due to its
> "encumbrance" will happily run the proprietary Nvidia driver...
Is there an alternative to the Nvidia driver? If so, I sure would like
to know what it is!
4:19 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] ogg for Windows made really easy
Lee Revell wrote:
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 12:47 -0800, Brad Fuller wrote:
I care about getting the job done well, first of all. I sure would like
it to be FOSS, though!
On my systems, the nvidia driver seems to work better for mpeg2 than nv.
That's why I'm using it. But, it too has problems on some older nvidia
chipsets.
On 11:48 AM Jan Depner wrote:
Yes, the open source "nv" driver. Does not support hardware accelerated
3D, but then again we care more about free software than being able to
use every bell and whistle, right?
I find it amusing that so many people who
won't use MP3 due to its
Is there an alternative to the Nvidia driver? If so, I sure would like
to know what it is!
"encumbrance" will happily run the
proprietary Nvidia driver...
4:27 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] ogg for Windows made really easy
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 13:18 -0800, Brad Fuller wrote:
Lee Revell wrote:
We've been through this before. If all you have to worry about is
mpeg2 playback you should be able to get by with the nv driver. I have
extreme 3D requirements (not games) and there is not a comparable driver
of any type for any other card.
--
Jan 'Evil Twin' Depner
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"As we enjoy great advantages from the invention of others, we should be
glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours, and
this we should do freely and generously."
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Pennsylvania for his "Pennsylvania Fireplace", c. 1744
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 12:47 -0800, Brad Fuller
wrote:
I care about getting the job done well, first of all. I sure would like
it to be FOSS, though!
On my systems, the nvidia driver seems to work better for mpeg2 than nv.
That's why I'm using it. But, it too has problems on some older nvidia
chipsets. On 11:48 AM Jan Depner wrote:
Yes, the open source "nv" driver. Does not support hardware accelerated
3D, but then again we care more about free software than being able to
use every bell and whistle, right?
I find it amusing that so many people who
won't use MP3 due to its
> "encumbrance" will happily run the proprietary Nvidia driver...
Is there an alternative to the Nvidia driver? If so, I sure would like
to know what it is!
4:34 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] ogg for Windows made really easy
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 15:26 -0600, Jan Depner wrote:
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 13:18 -0800, Brad Fuller wrote:
Yeah sorry I did not want to restart that flame war, I was just trying
to illustrate a point...
Lee
Lee Revell wrote:
We've been through this before. If all you have to worry about is
mpeg2 playback you should be able to get by with the nv driver. I have
extreme 3D requirements (not games) and there is not a comparable driver
of any type for any other card.
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 12:47 -0800, Brad Fuller
wrote:
I care about getting the job done well, first of all. I sure would like
it to be FOSS, though!
On my systems, the nvidia driver seems to work better for mpeg2 than nv.
That's why I'm using it. But, it too has problems on some older nvidia
chipsets. On 11:48 AM Jan Depner wrote:
> I find it amusing that so many people who won't use MP3 due to its
> > "encumbrance" will happily run the proprietary Nvidia driver...
>
>
Is there an alternative to the Nvidia driver? If so, I sure would like
to know what it is!
Yes, the open source "nv" driver. Does not support hardware accelerated
3D, but then again we care more about free software than being able to
use every bell and whistle, right?
8:33 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] ogg for Windows made really easy
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 16:34 -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 15:26 -0600, Jan Depner wrote:
No need to apologize. I certainly favor your view on this. I just
wish there were some way to get a really good, accelerated, open 3D
driver for some video card.
--
Jan 'Evil Twin' Depner
The Fuzzy Dice
http://myweb.cableone.net/eviltwin69/fuzzy.html
"As we enjoy great advantages from the invention of others, we should be
glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours, and
this we should do freely and generously."
Benjamin Franklin, on declining patents offered by the governor of
Pennsylvania for his "Pennsylvania Fireplace", c. 1744
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 13:18 -0800, Brad Fuller
wrote:
Yeah sorry I did not want to restart that flame war, I was just trying
to illustrate a point...
Lee Revell wrote:
We've been through this before. If all you have to worry about is
mpeg2 playback you should be able to get by with the nv driver. I have
extreme 3D requirements (not games) and there is not a comparable driver
of any type for any other card.
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 12:47 -0800, Brad Fuller
wrote:
>On 11:48 AM Jan Depner wrote:
>
>
>> I find it amusing that so many people who won't use MP3 due to its
>> > "encumbrance" will happily run the proprietary Nvidia driver...
>>
>>
>Is there an alternative to the Nvidia driver? If so, I sure would like
>to know what it is!
>
>
Yes, the open source "nv" driver. Does not support hardware accelerated
3D, but then again we care more about free software than being able to
use every bell and whistle, right?
I care about getting the job done well, first of all. I sure would like
it to be FOSS, though!
On my systems, the nvidia driver seems to work better for mpeg2 than nv.
That's why I'm using it. But, it too has problems on some older nvidia
chipsets. 
10:10 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] ogg for Windows made really easy
On Sunday 15 January 2006 20:31, Jan Depner wrote:
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 16:34 -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
So do we all, Jan. In fact, the suits at ati funded an open source
driver for their better card, what 3 years ago? Presumably to impress
us FOSS frogs I think. It might have been nice, but AIR by the time
the driver was released, the card on the dealers shelves had a new,
totally incompatible chipset on it. A classic case of the boardroom
not knowing, or careing about, what engineering/production was doing as
long as sales were steady. And this was done without changing a single
character in the artwork of the box. I even went out and bought the
supposedly correct driver from some x outfit, but it also wouldn't even
see the card. I tried to get a refund but their defense was that I
still had a copy of the driver, so the charge on my card stood. At
that point I returned the card to the vendor I'd bought it from and
made no attempt to hide the smoke pouring liberally from both ears when
I did so. A lot of yelling about false advertising at the time.
But when the nvidia card I'd bought to replace that ati died a year
later and wiped a mobo doing it, I was so upset with nvidia that
another ati seemed like the lessor of 2 evils. And so far, it has
been. That knocking sound in the background? Me, knocking on wood...
And now there is an nvidia card in the rebuilt box out in the shop thats
running my milling machine. Damned if I do, and damned if I don't I
guess.
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On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 15:26 -0600, Jan Depner
wrote:
No need to apologize. I certainly favor your view on this. I
just wish there were some way to get a really good, accelerated, open
3D driver for some video card. On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 13:18 -0800, Brad Fuller
wrote:
Yeah sorry I did not want to restart that flame war, I was just
trying to illustrate a point... Lee Revell wrote:
>On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 12:47 -0800, Brad Fuller wrote:
>>On 11:48 AM Jan Depner wrote:
>>> I find it amusing that so many people who won't use MP3 due
>>> to its
>>>
>>> > "encumbrance" will happily run the proprietary Nvidia
>>> > driver...
>>
>>Is there an alternative to the Nvidia driver? If so, I sure
>> would like to know what it is!
>
>Yes, the open source "nv" driver. Does not support hardware
> accelerated 3D, but then again we care more about free
> software than being able to use every bell and whistle, right?
I care about getting the job done well, first of all. I sure
would like it to be FOSS, though!
On my systems, the nvidia driver seems to work better for mpeg2
than nv. That's why I'm using it. But, it too has problems on
some older nvidia chipsets.
We've been through this before. If all you have to worry
about is mpeg2 playback you should be able to get by with the nv
driver. I have extreme 3D requirements (not games) and there is
not a comparable driver of any type for any other card.
6:05 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] ogg for Windows made really easy
Jan Depner wrote:
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 13:18 -0800, Brad Fuller wrote:
can the nv driver make use of nvidia hw facilities like XvMC? If so,
that'd be great.
Lee Revell wrote:
We've been through this before. If all you have to worry about is
mpeg2 playback you should be able to get by with the nv driver. I have
extreme 3D requirements (not games) and there is not a comparable driver
of any type for any other card
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 12:47 -0800, Brad Fuller
wrote:
I care about getting the job done well, first of all. I sure would like
it to be FOSS, though!
On my systems, the nvidia driver seems to work better for mpeg2 than nv.
That's why I'm using it. But, it too has problems on some older nvidia
chipsets.
On 11:48 AM Jan Depner wrote:
>I find it amusing that so many people who won't use MP3 due to its
>
>
>>"encumbrance" will happily run the proprietary Nvidia driver...
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
Is there an alternative to the Nvidia driver? If so, I sure would like
to know what it is!
Yes, the open source "nv" driver. Does not support hardware accelerated
3D, but then again we care more about free software than being able to
use every bell and whistle, right?
16 Jan
16 Jan
10:19 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] ogg for Windows made really easy
On Sunday 15 January 2006 20:54, Lee Revell was like:
Yes, the open source "nv" driver. Does not
support hardware accelerated
3D, but then again we care more about free software than being able to
use every bell and whistle, right?
There are legitimate uses for 3D support in multimedia situations. We're not
talking 'bells and whistles'.
--
cheers,
tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk/tim
15 Jan
15 Jan
3:55 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] ogg for Windows made really easy
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 12:47 -0800, Brad Fuller wrote:
On 11:48 AM Jan Depner wrote:
The most obvious alternative is not to buy hardware that required a
proprietary driver. For example many ATI cards have open source drivers
that support 3D HW acceleration.
Lee
I find it amusing that so many people who
won't use MP3 due to its
> "encumbrance" will happily run the proprietary Nvidia driver...
Is there an alternative to the Nvidia driver? If so, I sure would like
to know what it is!
5:13 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] ogg for Windows made really easy
On Sunday 15 January 2006 15:47, Brad Fuller wrote:
On 11:48 AM Jan Depner wrote:
Sure. In kernel, the nv driver. Its only 2d, but it is stable and does
what it does quite well.
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Cheers, Gene
People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should add the word
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Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above
message by Gene Heskett are:
Copyright 2005 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
I find it amusing that so many people who
won't use MP3 due to its
> "encumbrance" will happily run the proprietary Nvidia driver...
Is there an alternative to the Nvidia driver? If so, I sure would like
to know what it is!
brad
5:27 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] ogg for Windows made really easy
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 17:13 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Sunday 15 January 2006 15:47, Brad Fuller wrote:
It's an X driver not a kernel driver, FWIW.
(Sorry I brought up the nvidia issue, this caused a huge flame war last
time and I did not mean to go there...)
Lee
On 11:48 AM Jan Depner wrote:
Sure. In kernel, the nv driver. Its only 2d, but it is stable and does
what it does quite well.
I find it amusing that so many people who
won't use MP3 due to its
> "encumbrance" will happily run the proprietary Nvidia driver...
Is there an alternative to the Nvidia driver? If so, I sure would like
to know what it is!
brad 
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