22 Apr
2005
22 Apr
'05
2:18 p.m.
Hello all,
I used to use Cakewalk on a small Windows partition for composing
work. Now, I'm trying to take the midi files I'd exported from
Cakewalk and play them using rosegarden/fluidsynth/pmidi.
My songs sounds like a cacophony. Things are so wrong - it sounds
truely horrible.
I downloaded some MIDI files from around the internet and they all
play normally. Is is possible Cakewalk has some SysEx events in there
that pmidi/rosegarden are interpreting as notes?
Cause damn. I didn't write this stuff!
--
Ross Vandegrift
ross(a)lug.udel.edu
"The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who
make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians
have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine
man in the bonds of Hell."
--St. Augustine, De Genesi ad Litteram, Book II, xviii, 37
22 Apr
22 Apr
2:39 p.m.
ross(a)jose.lug.udel.edu wrote:
I used to use Cakewalk on a small Windows partition
for composing
work. Now, I'm trying to take the midi files I'd exported from
Cakewalk and play them using rosegarden/fluidsynth/pmidi.
My songs sounds like a cacophony. Things are so wrong - it sounds
truely horrible.
I downloaded some MIDI files from around the internet and they all
play normally. Is is possible Cakewalk has some SysEx events in there
that pmidi/rosegarden are interpreting as notes?
I had similar problems with Cakewalk generated MIDI. In fact, Cakewalk
incorrectly played back MIDI files from the Internet that played
correctly with timidity or Rosegarden. I HATED Cakewalk's MIDI and
music notation support. I was only too happy to abandon it and wipe out
my Windows partition. :-)
-- Brett
2:54 p.m.
ross(a)jose.lug.udel.edu wrote:
Hello all,
I used to use Cakewalk on a small Windows partition for composing
work. Now, I'm trying to take the midi files I'd exported from
Cakewalk and play them using rosegarden/fluidsynth/pmidi.
My songs sounds like a cacophony. Things are so wrong - it sounds
truely horrible.
I downloaded some MIDI files from around the internet and they all
play normally. Is is possible Cakewalk has some SysEx events in there
that pmidi/rosegarden are interpreting as notes?
Cause damn. I didn't write this stuff!
(sometimes accidents are the best composition tool you have!)
Seriously, I use Sonar daily (not the old cakewalk) and have imported
into Rosegarden with <pretty much> no problem. I say <pretty much>
because I do hear a difference in how the two realize the midi file --
they just sound different. Pitch bends are the easiest to notice. But,
I'm not saying one is right over the other. Sonar has some problem
playing wheel data -- especially in short midi pieces (the playback is
not consistent from playback to playback)
--
Brad Fuller
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3 May
3 May
3:04 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: *UPDATE* MIDI exported from Cakewalk sounds horrible!
On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 12:18:41PM -0400, ross(a)jose.lug.udel.edu wrote:
I used to use Cakewalk on a small Windows partition
for composing
work. Now, I'm trying to take the midi files I'd exported from
Cakewalk and play them using rosegarden/fluidsynth/pmidi.
My songs sounds like a cacophony. Things are so wrong - it sounds
truely horrible.
Interesting update - this must be a bug in fluidsynth somewhere.
I just bought a new GM digital piano and it's banks interpret the MIDI
data fine - the songs sound correct. It seems like my guess about
SysEx (or some other kind of) data being interpreted as note events.
Do any of you guys that said you had seen the same problem have some
MIDI hardware to test on? I'd be curious to see if you hit the same
thing. Would be worth a bug report on fluidsynth.
Thanks, let me know!
--
Ross Vandegrift
ross(a)lug.udel.edu
"The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who
make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians
have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine
man in the bonds of Hell."
--St. Augustine, De Genesi ad Litteram, Book II, xviii, 37
5:02 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: *UPDATE* MIDI exported from Cakewalk sounds horrible!
Back on Tuesday 03 May 2005 12:04 pm, ross(a)jose.lug.udel.edu was like:
On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 12:18:41PM -0400,
ross(a)jose.lug.udel.edu wrote:
Fluidsynth has problems. _Any_ compiler optimization flags cause problems, and
even when compiled correctly, the chorus and reverb cause it to produce
nothing but NAN garbage for the output. Quite honestly, you're better off
using timidity to load the soundfount.
-Reuben
I used to use Cakewalk on a small Windows
partition for composing
work. Now, I'm trying to take the midi files I'd exported from
Cakewalk and play them using rosegarden/fluidsynth/pmidi.
My songs sounds like a cacophony. Things are so wrong - it sounds
truely horrible.
Interesting update - this must be a bug in fluidsynth somewhere.
I just bought a new GM digital piano and it's banks interpret the MIDI
data fine - the songs sound correct. It seems like my guess about
SysEx (or some other kind of) data being interpreted as note events.
Do any of you guys that said you had seen the same problem have some
MIDI hardware to test on? I'd be curious to see if you hit the same
thing. Would be worth a bug report on fluidsynth.
Thanks, let me know!
10:26 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: *UPDATE* MIDI exported from Cakewalk sounds horrible!
On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 02:02:10PM -0500, Reuben Martin wrote:
I don't think any such issues would be related. Any new MIDI
information I create in Rosegarden sounds correct. It's just old
stuff that I had exported from Cakewalk Pro Audio, and just from
Cakewalk.
What version of fluidsynth do you have so many problem with? Mine
mostly works well!
--
Ross Vandegrift
ross(a)lug.udel.edu
"The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who
make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians
have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine
man in the bonds of Hell."
--St. Augustine, De Genesi ad Litteram, Book II, xviii, 37
Do any of you
guys that said you had seen the same problem have some
MIDI hardware to test on? I'd be curious to see if you hit the same
thing. Would be worth a bug report on fluidsynth.
Thanks, let me know!
Fluidsynth has problems. _Any_ compiler optimization flags cause problems, and
even when compiled correctly, the chorus and reverb cause it to produce
nothing but NAN garbage for the output. Quite honestly, you're better off
using timidity to load the soundfount.
11:26 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: *UPDATE* MIDI exported from Cakewalk sounds horrible!
Back on Tuesday 03 May 2005 07:26 pm, ross(a)lug.udel.edu was like:
On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 02:02:10PM -0500, Reuben
Martin wrote:
I don't think any such issues would be related. Any new MIDI
information I create in Rosegarden sounds correct. It's just old
stuff that I had exported from Cakewalk Pro Audio, and just from
Cakewalk.
What version of fluidsynth do you have so many problem with? Mine
mostly works well!
fluidsynth v. 1.0.5 I have it working, but it isn't very stable, and like I
said, the chorus and reverb causes it to generate NAN garbage. These problems
don't have anything to do with the MIDI output of Rosegarden (or any other
MIDI sequencer) I just wanted to make clear that problems with odd sounding
output may be bugs in fluidsynth itself.
Do any of
you guys that said you had seen the same problem have some
MIDI hardware to test on? I'd be curious to see if you hit the same
thing. Would be worth a bug report on fluidsynth.
Thanks, let me know!
Fluidsynth has problems. _Any_ compiler optimization flags cause
problems, and even when compiled correctly, the chorus and reverb cause
it to produce nothing but NAN garbage for the output. Quite honestly,
you're better off using timidity to load the soundfount.
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