On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 23:10:58 +0200 (CEST), Ffanci Silvain wrote: And anybody else can't, because we now need to get rid of that disgusting catchy tune :D.

On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 23:38:57 +0200 Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf(a)alice-dsl.net> wrote: Ooomm nama shivayaaaa shivayyaaaa namaaa ooooom.... Well, on the Rio theme, extremely loosely, just by name, English band Fila Brazilla, from the 80s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7RXQeWK4tI Or how to maintain attention minimally. That no 'loud wars' were going on at that time help the electronics to breathe. The whole "Old Codes New Chaos" album is quite good.

On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 23:52:41 +0200 Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf(a)alice-dsl.net> wrote: Very surprised by this. Germany is same as us. This is certainly imposed by some German regulation.

On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 23:05:06 +0100 Will Godfrey <willgodfrey(a)musically.me.uk> wrote: Yes, this is the most appalling aspect of it.

On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 08:24:54 +0200 Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf(a)alice-dsl.net> wrote: As far as I see it, there can be two mechanisms in place. One is by geolocation, the other by copyrights. For an example of the latter, I have made a mix of songs by UA, from CDs, and uploaded it to youtube. The idea was to only share it with somebody else that has access to youtube from a simple tablet-type of computer. Youtube in turn prevents playing that video except if I'm logged in to my account. Then I can play it. I think it works by companies uploading digital 'signatures' that consists of audio fragments to a youtube API. youtube in turn scans an uploaded file to see if the bit pattern can be found. The mix file, about which youtube will show that there are copyrights held by Victor Entertainment : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14CyN5XM5z0 A live rendition of a UA tune that causes no copyright problems: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHIWCmZqwLs (yes, it rains in Japan) The bit pattern can obviously not be found in the live version. The algorithm is certainly not smart enough to extract the musical intent and synthesize it for search purposes. Trivia: "jonetsu" is the title of a UA song. For geolocation, I do not know. Why would Germany not be able to view songs by Fila Brazilla, posted by the official Fila Brazilla account in England ! The band itself posted them to share with people. Hence my mention of brexit :) For us, it was when the guy knocked at the door to collect the fees that was surprise. I guess we were late in a payment, or overlooked it since all of this was new. If I'm not mistaken it works by the number of appliances, including car radios. In the surprising things dept. the very first school day in the life of a child is also eventful as there is a visit to the church. The church, who also collects a fee if I'm not mistaken. This means that someone who listen to religious programs on radio or TV gets all his/her money worth ! :)

On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 07:59:26 -0400, jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com wrote: I'm an atheist, however, in a good church a "high priest" perhaps is able to pick up varying moods of the "audience" and instead of preaching (s)he explains something and it really reaches the "audience". Apart from this, depending on the faith, the "audience" gets gifts, Catholics e.g. serve the blood and body of Jesus Christ, incense and real organ music. Remember watching the filmization of Rashômon by Akira Kurosawa. Since it's a movie, there's no interaction with the audience. In a church there is interaction with the audience. So while Akira Kurosawa explains simplest ethics repeated and repeated and repeated until the audience is bored as hell, a "high priest" could skip parts of an explanation or continue to explain the same thing, in a different style, that is more understandable by and/or less boring for the audience. It's the same with live music compared to radio and TV. Jerry García played never ending guitar solos nobody wants to hear, excepted of the Grateful Dead audience. IOW it also could be vice versa, something that is to boring and much, much too long for most people, in church or a concert hall could be continued and continued and continued, as long as the drugged audience likes to listen to crap played by drugged musicians. IOW the performers and the audience take the same drugs and are on the same level, this doesn't work for radio and TV. 2 Cents, Ralf

On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 23:38:57 +0200 Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf(a)alice-dsl.net> wrote: Correction, this would be more to the point :) "Fila Brazillia - The Light of Jesus" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BQv14qz3es Still from Twentythree Records, offical Fila Brazilla on youtube. Guess that brexit did not fare well in acceptance :)