25 May
2006
25 May
'06
2:31 a.m.
Hi Paul,
If you have multiple chains selected when you do an ao-attach or ao-add
then the output will be attached to *all* the selected chains. I think
this is the only time that having multiple selected chains is useful
(but don't quote me on that :)
So:
c-add t1
c-add t2
c-select t1,t2
ao-add fred.wav
makes fred.wav the output for both chains.
Hope that helps.
With regards to frontends for eca, I am working on one myself. I hope to
have the first release in a month or so. It will try to preserve as much
of ecasound's semantics as possible, and even give you interactive mode
access. I'll try and get a screenshot of the current version up
somewhere for people to look at and make suggestions on.
Cheers,
Stuart
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One
'gotcha' to look out for is that when you call ai-attach or
ao-attach it *detaches* that in/out from any chains it is currently
attached to and connects it to only those chains currently selected.
Hmmm...so what do you do if you want two chains to have the
same output (the first two jack alsa_pcm outputs)?
25 May
25 May
4:43 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] ecasound interactive mode
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 02:25:28PM +1000, Stuart Allie wrote:
With regards to frontends for eca, I am working on one
myself. I hope to
have the first release in a month or so. It will try to preserve as much
of ecasound's semantics as possible, and even give you interactive mode
access. I'll try and get a screenshot of the current version up
somewhere for people to look at and make suggestions on.
I'm curious what motivates your design, having spent a
long time writing one of my own using perl and tk.
http://ecmdr.infogami.com
Did you ever have a chance to have a look?? Any feedback??
But then why did I write a front end of my when a rather mature
Tkeca is available??
- I had (and have) a few problems getting it to work.
- By allowing many of the possibilities for Ecasound
there seemed lots of ways to get errors.
- Too many windows makes my eyes glaze over, I
find it hard to keep the big picture.
- Ditto, with dialog boxes, for which I
have a special dislike.
- I'm not used to reading/hacking tcl
- I wanted an autoincrement function for
recording several songs with the same
setup.
Are people's requirements and expectations really so
different?
Regards
Joel
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26 May
26 May
1:28 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] ecasound interactive mode
On 5/25/06, Joel Roth <joelz(a)pobox.com> wrote:
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 02:25:28PM +1000, Stuart Allie
wrote:
Well, I'd like an app that lets me write songs the way that I used to
in bands. Usually I have a bass line or guitar part first. Record
it. Then I (or somebody) comes up with drums for that part, etc. Add
a track for that. After jamming on that for a bit (i.e. looping the
recorded tracks and playing over it), a second riff, bass line, or
drum part comes up. Record that (separately). Loop that for while,
jamming on it. Now play the first part 4 times, then the second part
4 times. Wait, I want the second part first, then the first part.
Etc.
While it's possible to work like this in, say, ardour (or ecmdr),
neither one is optimized (in terms of UI) for it. I don't intend to
record finished pieces with a tool like this, but rather use it as a
songwriting tool.
Of course, if there is a program that makes working like this easy,
I'll definitely use it. Or if someone wants to add these types of
features, I'll be more than glad to help (since I never seem to finish
any of my pet projects anyway, like my plugins, my beat-synced effects
program, etc.).
paul
With regards to frontends for eca, I am working
on one myself. I hope to
have the first release in a month or so. It will try to preserve as much
of ecasound's semantics as possible, and even give you interactive mode
access. I'll try and get a screenshot of the current version up
somewhere for people to look at and make suggestions on.
I'm curious what motivates your design, having spent a
long time writing one of my own using perl and tk.
http://ecmdr.infogami.com
Did you ever have a chance to have a look?? Any feedback??
But then why did I write a front end of my when a rather mature
Tkeca is available??
- I had (and have) a few problems getting it to work.
- By allowing many of the possibilities for Ecasound
there seemed lots of ways to get errors.
- Too many windows makes my eyes glaze over, I
find it hard to keep the big picture.
- Ditto, with dialog boxes, for which I
have a special dislike.
- I'm not used to reading/hacking tcl
- I wanted an autoincrement function for
recording several songs with the same
setup.
Are people's requirements and expectations really so
different?
Regards
Joel
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Joel Roth
2:37 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] ecasound interactive mode
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 11:27:06PM -0400, Paul Coccoli wrote:
Well, I'd like an app that lets me write songs the
way that I used to
in bands. Usually I have a bass line or guitar part first. Record
it. Then I (or somebody) comes up with drums for that part, etc. Add
a track for that. After jamming on that for a bit (i.e. looping the
recorded tracks and playing over it), a second riff, bass line, or
drum part comes up. Record that (separately). Loop that for while,
jamming on it. Now play the first part 4 times, then the second part
4 times. Wait, I want the second part first, then the first part.
Etc.
While it's possible to work like this in, say, ardour (or ecmdr),
neither one is optimized (in terms of UI) for it. I don't intend to
record finished pieces with a tool like this, but rather use it as a
songwriting tool.
Interesting. From what I've seen Ardour comes pretty close.
I wonder what tricks you could use to set your looping at
exactly the right places. If you played to a
click track it would be simple math.
Currently Ecmd doesn't do looping or punch-in punch-out.
Support would be possible by creating a data structure
corresponding to an .ewf file that could be specified for
each track.
With .ewf support and a click-track tempo, one could add in
some sequencing features. Or you could simply listen, and
when you come to the place you want an audio clip to start
you could click to mark the position (like setting a
marker).
Probably you could find great tools if you were willing to
do the entire project in midi.
Of course, if there is a program that makes working
like this easy,
I'll definitely use it. Or if someone wants to add these types of
features, I'll be more than glad to help (since I never seem to finish
any of my pet projects anyway, like my plugins, my beat-synced effects
program, etc.).
Sounds like all the electronic projects that i built but
never learned to debugn.
--joel
paul
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