RE: Is the Linux desktop really here ? was: Re:[linux-audio-user]ebayguy: looks like he figured it out
8 Dec
2003
8 Dec
'03
1:25 p.m.
Yeah, and (God I hate to say this) Micro$oft Excel is actually a damn good product. On
it's own merits it beats the pants off just about anything else out there.
Jan
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Subject: RE: Is the Linux desktop really here ? was: Re:[linux-audio-user]ebayguy: looks
like he figured it out
On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 07:01, John Bleichert wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 eviltwin69(a)cableone.net wrote:
In my experience this isn't the way the world works. She's probably
receiving Excel spreadsheets from others that already have stuff
embedded that won't work with Linux tools. I ran into this problem big
time when we looked at Star Office and Open Office for work. We couldn't
use either as their compatibility with both Word and Excel wasn't good
enough and broke our compatibility with both our vendors and our
customers.
As someone who runs a business, why would I want to pay someone $600 to
fix 10 documents when I can buy Microsoft's tools for $300 and have
guaranteed compatibility? That's a tough sell...
My wife is the comptroller for a US Navy activity. She is the ultimate hard-core Excel
user ;-) Neither Open Office nor Gnumeric can handle the macros that she uses.
Jan
Yeah, I bet. That's a difficult switch. Although, to be fair, OO Calc or
Gnumeric would work fine if she chose to re-program all those macros in
their native macro languages ;-) (Does gnumeric have one? I haven't used
it in years) 
8 Dec
8 Dec
1:35 p.m.
New subject: Is the Linux desktop really here ? was: Re:[linux-audio-user]ebayguy: looks like he figured it out
How far are we to see MS Excell for Linux?
What about Visio for Linux?... This one should run better in Linux than
in MS Windows because of unlimited memory usage.
Apple MacOS is already working on Linux!... I predicted that Windows
2017 will be on Linux... I call it MS Wintix ( Windos NT on Linux).
Do we have to wait until B. Gates's son takes control of MS?.. Or Bill
can change his mind before that.
GZS
eviltwin69(a)cableone.net wrote:
Yeah, and (God I hate to say this) Micro$oft Excel is
actually a damn good product. On it's own merits it beats the pants off just about
anything else out there.
Jan
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Subject: RE: Is the Linux desktop really here ? was: Re:[linux-audio-user]ebayguy: looks
like he figured it out
On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 07:01, John Bleichert wrote:
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 eviltwin69(a)cableone.net wrote:
In my experience this isn't the way the world works. She's probably
receiving Excel spreadsheets from others that already have stuff
embedded that won't work with Linux tools. I ran into this problem big
time when we looked at Star Office and Open Office for work. We couldn't
use either as their compatibility with both Word and Excel wasn't good
enough and broke our compatibility with both our vendors and our
customers.
As someone who runs a business, why would I want to pay someone $600 to
fix 10 documents when I can buy Microsoft's tools for $300 and have
guaranteed compatibility? That's a tough sell...
My wife is the comptroller for a US Navy activity.
She is the ultimate hard-core Excel user ;-) Neither Open Office nor Gnumeric can handle
the macros that she uses.
Jan
Yeah, I bet. That's a difficult switch. Although, to be fair, OO Calc or
Gnumeric would work fine if she chose to re-program all those macros in
their native macro languages ;-) (Does gnumeric have one? I haven't used
it in years) 
1:40 p.m.
New subject: Is the Linux desktop really here ? was:Re:[linux-audio-user]ebayguy: looks like he figured it out
Yeah, and (God I hate to say this) Micro$oft Excel is actually a
damn good product. On it's own merits it beats the pants off
just about anything else out there.
Jan
"it beats the pants off just about anything else out there"
Name one that is Excel's equal or really even close? I can't.
(unfortunately.) Excel is a tremendous application. It's probably the only
really good application M$ has ever done. It's solid, fast, and has the most
features of any spreadsheet I know of. It works day in and day out. Everyone
uses it, so I *have* to have it available.
Word has gotten a lot better in recent years. For doing specifications I
moved to Framemaker years ago because Word couldn't hack it, but I think it
could today. (possibly)
One problem that comes up with Star Office and Open Office is that they may
open and deal with documents correctly, or appear to, but when you send them
back to an M$ Office user they often complain that they have trouble opening
them or that fonts have changed, etc.
M$ Office under Codeweavers is a good solution to the problem of needing to
remain 100% compatible. There are those of us that need to. My son uses Open
Office on his Linux PC for school work. Mostly it's OK, although last week
it started printing a ' ? ' instead of a ' " '. Go figure...
- Mark
2:23 p.m.
New subject: Is the Linux desktop really here ? was:Re:[linux-audio-user]ebayguy: looks like he figured it out
M$ Office under Codeweavers is a good solution to the problem of needing to
remain 100% compatible. There are those of us that need to. My son uses Open
Office on his Linux PC for school work. Mostly it's OK, although last week
it started printing a ' ? ' instead of a ' " '. Go figure...
- Mark
That can be corrected. I think you right click on the document and
select the page properties. I can't remember what setting I had to
select. I don't know why it changed. It is easy to fix though. I just
remember it was a setting in there.
Jeremiah
2:37 p.m.
New subject: Is the Linux desktop really here ? was:Re:[linux-audio-user]ebayguy: looks like he figured it out
On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 09:21, Jeremiah Benham wrote:
That can be corrected. I think you right click on the
document and
select the page properties. I can't remember what setting I had to
select. I don't know why it changed. It is easy to fix though. I just
remember it was a setting in there.
Jeremiah
Thanks for the info Jeremiah. Can you lend any insight into why it
should have changed and started doing this? Is it possible that my 11
year old did something by accident to set this off?
- Mark
3:33 p.m.
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On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 10:35:21AM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 09:21, Jeremiah Benham wrote:
I really don't know for sure but since this was a preference option
in either the character or page formatting. I started playing around
with it and the light bulb popped up. Then I clicked on the light
bulb and it braught me a help thing and I found my answer there. She
may have accidentally saved the changes or OO.o did upon exit once.
Thats my guess. It seems assine but it is a preference somewhere. If
you just select all then default will probably get rid of it.
Jeremiah
That can be corrected. I think you right click on
the document and
select the page properties. I can't remember what setting I had to
select. I don't know why it changed. It is easy to fix though. I just
remember it was a setting in there.
Jeremiah
Thanks for the info Jeremiah. Can you lend any insight into why it
should have changed and started doing this? Is it possible that my 11
year old did something by accident to set this off?
- Mark
6:03 p.m.
New subject: Is the Linux desktop really here ? was:Re:[linux-audio-user]ebayguy: looks like he figured it out
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 10:35:21AM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
The question marks are a reult of Microsoft's SmartQuotes feature - it
replaces the straight quotes with direction quotes (like TeX does for ``
and '' instead of ").
OO.o has an option to enable processing Microsoft SmartQuotes - I
suspect that's the setting that's giving the trouble.
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That can be
corrected. I think you right click on the document and
select the page properties. I can't remember what setting I had to
select. I don't know why it changed. It is easy to fix though. I just
remember it was a setting in there.
Jeremiah
Thanks for the info Jeremiah. Can you lend any insight into why it
should have changed and started doing this? Is it possible that my 11
year old did something by accident to set this off?
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