1 Sep
2010
1 Sep
'10
11:20 a.m.
A new Early Music CD has been produced using FLOSS on Linux, mainly Ardour:
Sound out my voice - Italian madrigals and bastarda music for viol consort
The CD is played by the viol [1] consort "ORLANDOviols". It is
commercially available at http://www.orlandoviols.de/, and soon also via
amazon (Europe at least). A non-commercial publishing is planned after a
while.
A video, more or less the making of the CD, is available on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUx_UIcht2Y
The video is completely made with Blender on Linux.
Thanks to all the creative people around the Linux Audio World!
Giso
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viol
3 Sep
3 Sep
6:48 p.m.
On 08/31/2010 09:49 PM, Giso Grimm wrote:
A new Early Music CD has been produced using FLOSS on
Linux, mainly Ardour:
Sound out my voice - Italian madrigals and bastarda music for viol consort
The CD is played by the viol [1] consort "ORLANDOviols". It is
commercially available at http://www.orlandoviols.de/, and soon also via
amazon (Europe at least). A non-commercial publishing is planned after a
while.
A video, more or less the making of the CD, is available on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUx_UIcht2Y
The video is completely made with Blender on Linux.
impressive. loved the virtual sellotape on the recording room door :)
fun combination, early music and VR video...
at least the palestrina soundbite does not work, though. instead, your
provider throws up some really helpful advertisements.
i'd be very interested to see you guys live at some point.
as to the mixing, i can see how it makes sense for most consumers to
have a very present, in-your-face mix to listen to in your car while
returning from a live concert, but i find the sound a tad too "loud" and
close-miked given the material and instruments. but then i have a taste
with no commercial potential whatsoever...
next time you meet for a recording session, would you mind me crashing
the party with an ambisonic mike in the middle?
best,
jörn
8 p.m.
Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
On 08/31/2010 09:49 PM, Giso Grimm wrote:
Sorry, I will check. Anyway, the sound samples on the web are outdated,
I will replace them by samples of the CD.
A new Early Music CD has been produced using
FLOSS on Linux, mainly
Ardour:
Sound out my voice - Italian madrigals and bastarda music for viol
consort
The CD is played by the viol [1] consort "ORLANDOviols". It is
commercially available at http://www.orlandoviols.de/, and soon also via
amazon (Europe at least). A non-commercial publishing is planned after a
while.
A video, more or less the making of the CD, is available on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUx_UIcht2Y
The video is completely made with Blender on Linux.
impressive. loved the virtual sellotape on the recording room door :)
fun combination, early music and VR video...
at least the palestrina soundbite does not work, though. instead, your
provider throws up some really helpful advertisements.
i'd be very interested to see you guys live at some point.
Next Sunday (Sept. 5th) in Großburgwedel near Hannover...
as to the mixing, i can see how it makes sense for
most consumers to
have a very present, in-your-face mix to listen to in your car while
returning from a live concert, but i find the sound a tad too "loud" and
close-miked given the material and instruments. but then i have a taste
with no commercial potential whatsoever...
I have to admit that the room was not very easy to use: The church was
actually only the choir of a formerly much larger church. Where the
transept usually begins there was a large flat (sand stone) wall, with
quite distinct reflections. That (and also the presence of the
surrounding noises, wind and harvesters) forced us to the close mics.
But then, I like the presence, I like if you can hear the plain gut
strings rasp and squeak.
next time you meet for a recording session, would you mind me crashing
the party with an ambisonic mike in the middle?
Sure, would be interesting. Actually, since the recording I bought a
TetraMic for the university I work for, I definitely would have used it
if I had had it already then...
Actually we plan a concert with Early Music, real time ambisonincs
processing and improvised modern dance (with tracking for 3d sound
interaction). But this is still in the planning phase.
- Giso
8:32 p.m.
On 09/03/2010 08:00 PM, Giso Grimm wrote:
bad luck - that day is already occupied.
ah well, i was commenting on the example sounds on the website. i
already got suspicious when i found your description of the miking a few
mails down the thread, because that's definitely not what i was hearing...
do keep me posted!
best,
jörn
Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
ah, ok.
fun combination, early music and VR video...
at least the palestrina soundbite does not work, though. instead, your
provider throws up some really helpful advertisements.
Sorry, I will check. Anyway, the sound samples on the web are outdated,
I will replace them by samples of the CD.
i'd be very interested to see you guys live at some point.
Next Sunday (Sept. 5th) in Großburgwedel near Hannover... as to the
mixing, i can see how it makes sense for most consumers to
have a very present, in-your-face mix to listen to in your car while
returning from a live concert, but i find the sound a tad too "loud" and
close-miked given the material and instruments. but then i have a taste
with no commercial potential whatsoever...
I have to admit that the room was not very easy to use: The church was
actually only the choir of a formerly much larger church. Where the
transept usually begins there was a large flat (sand stone) wall, with
quite distinct reflections. That (and also the presence of the
surrounding noises, wind and harvesters) forced us to the close mics.
But then, I like the presence, I like if you can hear the plain gut
strings rasp and squeak. next time you
meet for a recording session, would you mind me crashing
the party with an ambisonic mike in the middle?
Sure, would be interesting. Actually, since the recording I bought a
TetraMic for the university I work for, I definitely would have used it
if I had had it already then...
Actually we plan a concert with Early Music, real time ambisonincs
processing and improvised modern dance (with tracking for 3d sound
interaction). But this is still in the planning phase. 
9 Sep
9 Sep
12:29 a.m.
On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 08:00:06PM +0200, Giso Grimm wrote:
I have to admit that the room was not very easy to
use: The church was
actually only the choir of a formerly much larger church. Where the
transept usually begins there was a large flat (sand stone) wall, with
quite distinct reflections. That (and also the presence of the
surrounding noises, wind and harvesters) forced us to the close mics.
But then, I like the presence, I like if you can hear the plain gut
strings rasp and squeak.
Having listened to the entire CD (and doing so again ATM), I'd say
the distance and presence are IMHO *exactly right*.
In fact, adding more reverb would make it more 'commercial'. Some
people would maybe would like it, but it would be wrong for this
music.
In a previous life I recorded a hundred or so concerts at the yearly
Early Music Festival in Bruges, Belgium. Most of these were performed
in churches, and in some cases (when the music wasn't ever meant to
be played there) this completely spoiled the experience for most of
the audience (and sometimes the recording as well).
Ciao,
--
FA
There are three of them, and Alleline.
10:53 p.m.
Giso Grimm wrote:
Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
Our sound samples are now updated, see http://orlandoviols.de/main.php?id=3
Giso
On 08/31/2010 09:49 PM, Giso Grimm wrote:
Sorry, I will check. Anyway, the sound samples on the web are outdated,
I will replace them by samples of the CD. A new Early Music CD has been produced using
FLOSS on Linux, mainly
Ardour:
[...]
at least the palestrina soundbite does not work, though. instead, your
provider throws up some really helpful advertisements.
3 Sep
3 Sep
8:43 p.m.
On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 06:48:02PM +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
impressive. loved the virtual sellotape on the
recording room door :)
I loved the sound of the stone moving. How was it made ?
fun combination, early music and VR video...
But it works quite well, I don't see any 'cultural' conflict there.
i'd be very interested to see you guys live at
some point.
Same here !
as to the mixing, i can see how it makes sense for
most consumers to
have a very present, in-your-face mix to listen to in your car while
returning from a live concert, but i find the sound a tad too "loud"
and close-miked given the material and instruments. but then i have
a taste with no commercial potential whatsoever...
Again same here. But I'll wait giving comments on this until I've
heard the CD which should arrive in my physical mailbox soon after
I return from Greece.
As to close miking: after all this is chamber music - i don't mind
having the players quite close. One of the things that I heard
recently (on Italian radio) was one of the Bach cello suites, the
one that start out with an octave chord. This also was miked very
close, and the resulting sound just sent the quivers down my spine.
next time you meet for a recording session, would you
mind me
crashing the party with an ambisonic mike in the middle?
Again same here :-) If ever you are near to Parma I won't hesitate
to load my car with some fancy recording gear and have a go at it.
Ciao,
--
FA
There are three of them, and Alleline.
9:08 p.m.
On 09/03/2010 08:43 PM, fons(a)kokkinizita.net wrote:
ah, the prospect of not having to convolve the sala dei concerti on a
recording (still my favourite impulse response btw), but to actually
place the musicians there - yummy :-D
next time you
meet for a recording session, would you mind me
crashing the party with an ambisonic mike in the middle?
Again same here :-) If ever you are near to Parma I won't hesitate
to load my car with some fancy recording gear and have a go at it.
10:55 p.m.
On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 09:08:51PM +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
ah, the prospect of not having to convolve the sala
dei concerti on
a recording (still my favourite impulse response btw), but to
actually place the musicians there - yummy :-D
Yes, it would be an ideal place for such an ensemble...
Other possibilities would be the chiostro of the CdM (as part
of the 'Concerti sotto le stelle'), or (yum yum) the castle of
Torrechiara <http://www.torrechiara.it>.
Ciao,
--
FA
There are three of them, and Alleline.
4 Sep
4 Sep
8:40 p.m.
fons(a)kokkinizita.net wrote:
Our original plan was to make the recording in Italy (with nice weather,
having a good wine after work, in a nice church or castello), it was
just because of budget and time limitations that we did it more to the
north. But I am sure we will come to Italy sooner or later, this music
very much belongs to that place...
- Giso
On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 06:48:02PM +0200, Jörn
Nettingsmeier wrote:
> impressive. loved the virtual sellotape on the recording room door :)
Sorry, but the door texture (including the poster) was a real photograph
of the real door of the recording room, also the surrounding stones. I
just had to recreate the door latch.
I loved the sound of the stone moving. How was it made
?
Hah, that was easy: Two brick stones, moving on each other with a bit of
force. The opening stone was original pitch (but with an equalizer,
multiband eq by steve harris, settings 100Hz +5.1dB, 156Hz +15.3dB,
220Hz +17.3dB, 311Hz+7 dB, 3500Hz -12.2dB, 5k -7dB, 10k -14dB...),
followed by GVerb, roomsize 123 m, rev. time 4.2s, dry -17.8dB, early
-18.5dB, tail -10dB (well, I could have decreased the channel gain, but
I ended here). The closing stone was slowed down by a factor of 2 (but
with the same plugins, it was the same track).
next time you meet for a recording session, would
you mind me
crashing the party with an ambisonic mike in the middle?
Again same here :-) If ever you are near to Parma I won't hesitate
to load my car with some fancy recording gear and have a go at it.
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