25 Jun
2011
25 Jun
'11
4:32 p.m.
Hi,
So guys, just upgrade Gnome2 to Gnome3? ... Is it true that both
Gnome-shell and Unity needs Pulseaudio?
Regards,
\r
25 Jun
25 Jun
6:36 p.m.
rosea grammostola wrote:
So guys, just upgrade Gnome2 to Gnome3? ... Is it true
that both
Gnome-shell and Unity needs Pulseaudio?
I don't know about that. I know that Gnome3 uses 1GB of memory ... My
wife's new netbook has Ubuntu 11.04 on it, haven't noticed if it's using
PA or not, but sound works.
--
David
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authenticity, honesty, community
6:40 p.m.
On 06/25/2011 06:36 PM, david wrote:
rosea grammostola wrote:
Wow! Yeah, the points that made us proud of Linux slowly seems to fade
away... :( These new Desktop developments doesn't seems to be good for
Linuxaudio users at all...
Btw do you know what KDE4 uses? One dev told that it would be lighter
then KDE3 when KDE4 was released.
My
So guys, just upgrade Gnome2 to Gnome3? ... Is it
true that both
Gnome-shell and Unity needs Pulseaudio?
I don't know about that. I know that Gnome3 uses 1GB of memory ... wife's new netbook has Ubuntu 11.04 on it,
haven't noticed if it's using
PA or not, but sound works.
Ok, Ubuntu uses Unity. Do you know how Unity compares
to Gnome-shell
when it comes to system resources?
\r
26 Jun
26 Jun
12:03 p.m.
rosea.grammostola wrote:
On 06/25/2011 06:36 PM, david wrote:
Hey, I'm the kind of guy who likes Fluxbox, so I'm not necessarily a fan
of these "new" desktop developments.
There's a fork of KDE3, I forget the name, but it's being updated
regularly. If you prefer KDE3's comparative leanness, it's an option.
rosea grammostola wrote:
Wow! Yeah, the points that made us proud of Linux slowly seems to fade
away... :( These new Desktop developments doesn't seems to be good for
Linuxaudio users at all... So guys, just upgrade Gnome2 to Gnome3? ... Is it
true that both
Gnome-shell and Unity needs Pulseaudio?
I don't know about that. I know that Gnome3 uses 1GB of memory ... Btw do you know what KDE4 uses? One dev told that it
would be lighter
then KDE3 when KDE4 was released.
I don't know how much KDE4 uses. I've heard (from the same online source
that supplied the Gnome3 mem usage figure) that KDE4 comes in at less
than that. How much less, I don't recall.
A friend of mine that used KDE4 for awhile said that he thought it was
using less memory than KDE3. He tried LXDE but had stability issues, so
he's using XFCE. He says that when he does run a KDE4 app, he has a
shell script he runs afterwards that kills 9 KDE4 system services it
started up and left running upon exit. I believe that what makes KDE4
not good for audio is its ton of background system services, each one
doing its thing at intervals and playing hell with low latency setups.
Especially the Akonadi (sp?) service that indexes everything in your
home folder and stores the index results in a disk-hogging SQL database.
The moment you modify a file, the indexing service fires up and
reindexes it. Or something like that.
My
I don't know. It uses Compiz for its visual effects, I don't know what
Gnome-shell uses.
--
David
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
wife's new netbook has Ubuntu 11.04 on it,
haven't noticed if it's using
PA or not, but sound works.
Ok, Ubuntu uses Unity. Do you know how Unity compares
to Gnome-shell
when it comes to system resources?
2:04 p.m.
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 12:03 PM, david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
rosea.grammostola wrote:
I don't know. It uses Compiz for its visual effects, I don't know what
Gnome-shell uses.
It looks like XFCE will be the 'next Gnome2´ ... It looks better then in the
past and it seems to be pretty comparable with Gnome2. It seems to be a
possible to remove pulseaudio from Xubuntu. And of course you can install
Fluxbox together with it (I prefer fluxbox also myself ;) )
\r
On 06/25/2011 06:36 PM, david wrote:
Hey, I'm the kind of guy who likes Fluxbox, so I'm not necessarily a fan of
these "new" desktop developments.
There's a fork of KDE3, I forget the name, but it's being updated
regularly. If you prefer KDE3's comparative leanness, it's an option.
Btw do you know what KDE4 uses? One dev told that it would be lighter then
rosea grammostola wrote:
So guys, just upgrade Gnome2 to Gnome3? ... Is it true that both
Wow! Yeah, the points that made us proud of Linux slowly seems to fade
away... :( These new Desktop developments doesn't seems to be good for
Linuxaudio users at all...
Gnome-shell and Unity needs Pulseaudio?
I don't know about that. I know that Gnome3 uses 1GB of memory ...
KDE3 when KDE4 was released.
I don't know how much KDE4 uses. I've heard (from the same online source
that supplied the Gnome3 mem usage figure) that KDE4 comes in at less than
that. How much less, I don't recall.
A friend of mine that used KDE4 for awhile said that he thought it was
using less memory than KDE3. He tried LXDE but had stability issues, so he's
using XFCE. He says that when he does run a KDE4 app, he has a shell script
he runs afterwards that kills 9 KDE4 system services it started up and left
running upon exit. I believe that what makes KDE4 not good for audio is its
ton of background system services, each one doing its thing at intervals and
playing hell with low latency setups. Especially the Akonadi (sp?) service
that indexes everything in your home folder and stores the index results in
a disk-hogging SQL database. The moment you modify a file, the indexing
service fires up and reindexes it. Or something like that.
My
wife's new netbook has Ubuntu 11.04 on it,
haven't noticed if it's using
PA or not, but sound works.
Ok, Ubuntu uses Unity. Do you know how Unity compares to Gnome-shell when
it comes to system resources?
11:18 p.m.
On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:04:46 +0200
rosea grammostola <rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 12:03 PM, david
<gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
so if this trend continues, lxde is what xfce used to be and it will
become like gnome 2 when xfce has moved on to gnome3...
I installed latest ubuntu some time ago on a laptop and was baffled...
what was so bad about gnome2 to have to change it completely to that
*thing*?
cheers
renato
rosea.grammostola wrote:
I don't know. It uses Compiz for its visual effects, I don't know
what Gnome-shell uses.
It looks like XFCE will be the 'next Gnome2´ ... It looks better then
in the past and it seems to be pretty comparable with Gnome2. It
seems to be a possible to remove pulseaudio from Xubuntu. And of
course you can install Fluxbox together with it (I prefer fluxbox
also myself ;) )
On 06/25/2011 06:36 PM, david wrote:
Hey, I'm the kind of guy who likes Fluxbox, so I'm not necessarily
a fan of these "new" desktop developments.
There's a fork of KDE3, I forget the name, but it's being updated
regularly. If you prefer KDE3's comparative leanness, it's an
option.
Btw do you know what KDE4 uses? One dev told that it would be
lighter then
rosea grammostola wrote:
So guys, just upgrade Gnome2 to Gnome3? ... Is it true that both
> Gnome-shell and Unity needs Pulseaudio?
>
I don't know about that. I know that Gnome3 uses 1GB of memory ...
Wow! Yeah, the points that made us proud of Linux slowly seems to
fade away... :( These new Desktop developments doesn't seems to be
good for Linuxaudio users at all...
KDE3 when KDE4 was released.
I don't know how much KDE4 uses. I've heard (from the same online
source that supplied the Gnome3 mem usage figure) that KDE4 comes
in at less than that. How much less, I don't recall.
A friend of mine that used KDE4 for awhile said that he thought it
was using less memory than KDE3. He tried LXDE but had stability
issues, so he's using XFCE. He says that when he does run a KDE4
app, he has a shell script he runs afterwards that kills 9 KDE4
system services it started up and left running upon exit. I believe
that what makes KDE4 not good for audio is its ton of background
system services, each one doing its thing at intervals and playing
hell with low latency setups. Especially the Akonadi (sp?) service
that indexes everything in your home folder and stores the index
results in a disk-hogging SQL database. The moment you modify a
file, the indexing service fires up and reindexes it. Or something
like that.
My
wife's new netbook has Ubuntu 11.04 on it,
haven't noticed if
it's using PA or not, but sound works.
Ok, Ubuntu uses Unity. Do you know how Unity compares to
Gnome-shell when it comes to system resources?
27 Jun
27 Jun
10:09 a.m.
Am 25.06.2011 18:40, schrieb rosea.grammostola:
On 06/25/2011 06:36 PM, david wrote:
a lot. On Ubuntu it uses twice as much as Gnome2, on Fedora it is similar.
BUT: it can be configured to work very streamlined. On Suse 11.2 I only
disabeled the 3d-effects and the indexing and downloaded a lighter
Theme. Now it feels like XFCE in terms of performance.
I also have zero trouble using Dolphin or Konqueror or Kate under XFCE
in Fedora. As of now I have Mozilla, Dolphin and Jack and MHW up and
running in XFCE/Fedora14 and it uses 410MB memory.
Quite OK on a box with 2GB RAM.
btw.: here on my Thinkpad I have only but 2GB installed since I do not
feel the need to have much more. I can edit Ardour-Projects with around
40-50 channels and dozens of plug ins and record from guitarix at the
same time.
rosea grammostola wrote:
Wow! Yeah, the points that made us proud of Linux slowly seems to fade
away... :( These new Desktop developments doesn't seems to be good for
Linuxaudio users at all...
Btw do you know what KDE4 uses? So guys, just upgrade Gnome2 to Gnome3? ... Is it
true that both
Gnome-shell and Unity needs Pulseaudio?
I don't know about that. I know that Gnome3 uses 1GB of memory ... One dev told that it would be lighter
then KDE3 when KDE4 was released.
My
wife's new netbook has Ubuntu 11.04 on it,
haven't noticed if it's using
PA or not, but sound works.
Ok, Ubuntu uses Unity. Do you know how Unity compares
to Gnome-shell
when it comes to system resources?
\r
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26 Jun
26 Jun
12:30 a.m.
On 06/26/2011 12:32 AM, rosea grammostola wrote:
So guys, just upgrade Gnome2 to Gnome3? ... Is it true
that both
Gnome-shell and Unity needs Pulseaudio?
In Fedora pulseaudio is pulled in as a dependency of gnome-shell. By
default pulseaudio hands over control to jack via D-bus. Alternatively
you can sill disable pulseaudio by removing alsa-plugins-pulseaudio
11:37 a.m.
On 06/26/2011 12:28 AM, Brendan Jones wrote:
On 06/26/2011 12:32 AM, rosea grammostola wrote:
Then it uses
ALSA? You can't remove it, only disable it?
\r
So guys, just upgrade Gnome2 to Gnome3? ... Is it
true that both
Gnome-shell and Unity needs Pulseaudio?
In Fedora pulseaudio is pulled in as a dependency of gnome-shell. By
default pulseaudio hands over control to jack via D-bus. Alternatively
you can sill disable pulseaudio by removing alsa-plugins-pulseaudio
27 Jun
27 Jun
9:59 a.m.
Am 26.06.2011 11:37, schrieb rosea grammostola:
On 06/26/2011 12:28 AM, Brendan Jones wrote:
Disabeling it works perfectly OK for me. Thanks to pasuspender I did not
have trouble with PA since a year or so.
On 06/26/2011 12:32 AM, rosea grammostola wrote:
Then it uses
ALSA? You can't remove it, only disable it? So guys, just upgrade Gnome2 to Gnome3? ... Is it
true that both
Gnome-shell and Unity needs Pulseaudio?
In Fedora pulseaudio is pulled in as a dependency of gnome-shell. By
default pulseaudio hands over control to jack via D-bus. Alternatively
you can sill disable pulseaudio by removing alsa-plugins-pulseaudio
\r
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