On Tuesday 26 April 2005 08:47 am, Dave Phillips wrote:
Levi's response is what is known on Slashdot as a troll. It's
uninformed and uninterested in being helpful. There's plenty of evidence
Troll presumes malice. I don't know that it was malicious, but it was
ignorant. It may have been based on personal experience and he just didn't
account for the fact that he's naive.
now that Linux audio software is performance capable,
the performance stability of music software on either the Mac and Windows.
I could back up my statements with links to the appropriate messages
and forums, except that it is in the nature of a troll to be unconcerned
with either the veracity of the troll itself and to be uninterested in
actually learning anything contrary to the troll. I will suggest that
Mr. Machado look at the Music Made With Linux section of the Linux
soundapps pages and at Jan Weil's Linux audio blog, which includes a
nice list of music made with Linux.
Iain Duncan has been using the Linux version of Csound for
performances lasting hours at a time, Ron Parker has been employing
Ardour as the DAW of choice in his professional studio (Mirror Image
Studios) for the past six months, and many other people on and off this
list are using Linux daily for the music creation and production needs.
I suggest that it's Mr. Burton who should unsubscribe, not Mr.
Machado. I also suggest that calling someone an asshole in a response is
just poor form, regardless how provocative the original statement. Mr.
Revell does some outstanding work in Linux audio development, but I
should think a little more civil response was in order. Sorry, Lee, I
admire your work, and I understand the warmth of your reply, but was
"asshole" really necessary ?
We're going to get more and more people coming to us with questions
like Felipe's, questions which are quite legitimate and want only a
decent straightforward answer so the poster can proceed to make an
informed decision. We won't convince anyone either by posting uninformed
remarks a la Mr. Burton or by responding with name-calling (I agree with
the pundit who stated that once we start calling each other names we've
admitted we're done with any constructive dialog).
Perhaps Lee was shagged out after a long performance ;)
I've lost count of the number of projects that
"probably never will"
be achieved by Linux developers, including such software as Ardour,
Mozilla, and even Linux itself. Having just returned from the Linux
audio conference I can confidently state that much Linux audio software
is perfectly usable live, and it is most certainly capable of meeting
some very demanding needs from some very demanding musicians (witness
the concert series, both the composed shows and the improv sets). If
that software works for you, fine, and if not, you can always return to
your previous environment. You should really be most concerned about
getting your work done. For many of us here, Linux audio software is
precisely how we get our own work done.
Levi D. Burton wrote:
> Sorry, but if your coming to linux thinking that you will find
> software of comparable performance to something such as Ableton Live,
> you are very mistaken. Nothing on linux even comes close to Ableton
> Live and probably never will.
> Why not just use Ableton Live? Save yourself a whole lot of trouble.
> Oh, and using linux audio software live? I wouldn't.
> Felipe Machado wrote:
>> i use ableton live in my show. but now i want use linux. waht
>> software i have to install to use, looks like ableton live ? or
>> other good sample.
>> i edit some samples and play with a group.