21 Feb
2014
21 Feb
'14
9:35 a.m.
Hello dear all.
Lately I've found this devices by APC that seem quite interesting to
me given my interest and projects around Raspberry PI and Linux Audio:
http://apc.io/products/rock/
http://apc.io/products/8750a/
I love this presentation as a book,,
http://apc.io/products/paper/
... and that, presenting a device in a nice and not PC-like way, is
something I've been thinkinf of for a long time, but I couldn't do it
myself without a lot of building and DIY.
Does anybody have or tried one as it is? And with Linux?
--
Carlos sanchiavedraz
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
24 Feb
24 Feb
4:59 p.m.
Hi Carlos,
I'm developing an industrial application for a client using APC Rock.
I'm using Android, so I can confirm that linux runs on it and you can
find kernel and uboot here:
https://github.com/apc-io/apc-rock
I never tried a "standard" linux ditributions, so I can't tell about it,
but I fear the VIA support against linux is absent.
I suggest you look at some better supported board.
just my2c
Ivan
Il 21/02/2014 09:35, Carlos sanchiavedraz ha scritto:
Hello dear all.
Lately I've found this devices by APC that seem quite interesting to
me given my interest and projects around Raspberry PI and Linux Audio:
http://apc.io/products/rock/
http://apc.io/products/8750a/
I love this presentation as a book,,
http://apc.io/products/paper/
... and that, presenting a device in a nice and not PC-like way, is
something I've been thinkinf of for a long time, but I couldn't do it
myself without a lot of building and DIY.
Does anybody have or tried one as it is? And with Linux?
25 Feb
25 Feb
9:13 a.m.
2014-02-24 16:58 GMT+01:00 Ivan Tarozzi <itarozzi(a)gmail.com>om>:
Hi Carlos,
I'm developing an industrial application for a client using APC Rock.
I'm using Android, so I can confirm that linux runs on it and you can
find kernel and uboot here:
https://github.com/apc-io/apc-rock
I never tried a "standard" linux ditributions, so I can't tell about it,
but I fear the VIA support against linux is absent.
I suggest you look at some better supported board.
just my2c
Ivan
Thanks so much, Ivan.
It's really helpful to have such a warn before wanting to purchase one
of those and make my life trickier, most of all when surely I would
try to put Musix inside that would have some driver problems (it's
100% free/libre based on Debian).
I liked the book-style one, but now maybe I'll go some other way.
Regards.
Il 21/02/2014 09:35, Carlos sanchiavedraz ha scritto:
--
Carlos sanchiavedraz
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
Hello dear all.
Lately I've found this devices by APC that seem quite interesting to
me given my interest and projects around Raspberry PI and Linux Audio:
http://apc.io/products/rock/
http://apc.io/products/8750a/
I love this presentation as a book,,
http://apc.io/products/paper/
... and that, presenting a device in a nice and not PC-like way, is
something I've been thinkinf of for a long time, but I couldn't do it
myself without a lot of building and DIY.
Does anybody have or tried one as it is? And with Linux?
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26 Feb
6:26 p.m.
Il 25/02/2014 09:10, Carlos sanchiavedraz ha scritto:
2014-02-24 16:58 GMT+01:00 Ivan Tarozzi
<itarozzi(a)gmail.com>om>:
Hi Carlos,
I fear you can't put musix on any ARM board. Pay attention to the arch
when you download an iso.
I can't find any musix ARM version in the musix mirrors.
Of course you can start from a debian (or other supported distro) and
then add the programs that you want.
If a packet is absent in arm repo, you can of course compile yourself.
So, consider all that said when you plan to buy a board and download
software for it.
Now I have a beaglebone black on my desk. I haven't found spare time to
test it, but next days I hope to try the debian for BBB.
Here some references:
http://beagleboard.org/Products/BeagleBone+Black
http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Debian_On_BeagleBone_Black
I have no idea about debian repo for arm, I don't know if all packages
that I found in my amd64 repo are present in arm repository.
Or I could be for the Ubuntu way (I dislike a bit, but here the UBUNTU
ARM wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM)
I will report you when I completed some test, if you want.
Cheers!
Ivan
Hi Carlos,
I'm developing an industrial application for a client using APC Rock.
I'm using Android, so I can confirm that linux runs on it and you can
find kernel and uboot here:
https://github.com/apc-io/apc-rock
I never tried a "standard" linux ditributions, so I can't tell about it,
but I fear the VIA support against linux is absent.
I suggest you look at some better supported board.
just my2c
Ivan
Thanks so much, Ivan.
It's really helpful to have such a warn before wanting to purchase one
of those and make my life trickier, most of all when surely I would
try to put Musix inside that would have some driver problems (it's
100% free/libre based on Debian).
I liked the book-style one, but now maybe I'll go some other way.
Regards.
8:12 p.m.
2014-02-26 18:24 GMT+01:00 Ivan Tarozzi <itarozzi(a)gmail.com>om>:
Il 25/02/2014 09:10, Carlos sanchiavedraz ha scritto:
Yes, I know, I'm part of Musix team ;). But I think I could copy the
main differential things of Musix in a Debian ARM.
2014-02-24 16:58 GMT+01:00 Ivan Tarozzi
<itarozzi(a)gmail.com>om>:
Hi Carlos,
I fear you can't put musix on any ARM board. Pay attention to the arch
when you download an iso.
I can't find any musix ARM version in the musix mirrors.
Hi Carlos,
I'm developing an industrial application for a client using APC Rock.
I'm using Android, so I can confirm that linux runs on it and you can
find kernel and uboot here:
https://github.com/apc-io/apc-rock
I never tried a "standard" linux ditributions, so I can't tell about it,
but I fear the VIA support against linux is absent.
I suggest you look at some better supported board.
just my2c
Ivan
Thanks so much, Ivan.
It's really helpful to have such a warn before wanting to purchase one
of those and make my life trickier, most of all when surely I would
try to put Musix inside that would have some driver problems (it's
100% free/libre based on Debian).
I liked the book-style one, but now maybe I'll go some other way.
Regards.
Of course you can start from a debian (or other supported distro) and
then add the programs that you want.
If a packet is absent in arm repo, you can of course compile yourself.
So, consider all that said when you plan to buy a board and download
software for it.
Good advices.
Now I have a beaglebone black on my desk. I haven't found spare time to
test it, but next days I hope to try the debian for BBB.
Here some references:
http://beagleboard.org/Products/BeagleBone+Black
http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Debian_On_BeagleBone_Black
Our dear co-lister here, Jeremy Jongepier (http://autostatic.com/) , I
think he wrote a post about Beagleboard on his blog time ago. He is
very active trying this kind of mini-PCs. I think it gave him some
headaches.
I have no idea about debian repo for arm, I don't
know if all packages
that I found in my amd64 repo are present in arm repository.
Or I could be for the Ubuntu way (I dislike a bit, but here the UBUNTU
ARM wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM)
I will report you when I completed some test, if you want.
It would be great!
Cheers!
Ivan
Thanks, Ivan.
--
Carlos sanchiavedraz
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
9:50 p.m.
On 02/26/2014 08:12 PM, Carlos sanchiavedraz wrote:
Our dear co-lister here, Jeremy Jongepier
(http://autostatic.com/) , I
think he wrote a post about Beagleboard on his blog time ago. He is
very active trying this kind of mini-PCs. I think it gave him some
headaches.
I did not have a decent enough power adapter for the BBB so I had issues
getting USB devices, like audio interfaces, detected. I blogged about it
here:
http://autostatic.com/2013/09/17/exit-beaglebone-black-hello-cubieboard2
But that's just a personal experience. Maybe I did something wrong or
I've looked over something obvious. At that time I also received a
Cubieboard2 and that board immediately absorbed all my interest as it's
more powerful and easier to set up. And it has onboard audio IO.
Bye,
Jeremy
27 Feb
27 Feb
9:35 a.m.
2014-02-26 21:50 GMT+01:00 Jeremy Jongepier <jeremy(a)autostatic.com>om>:
On 02/26/2014 08:12 PM, Carlos sanchiavedraz wrote:
Onboard audio IO on RPi is the first thing I miss in it, I liked the
bookish APC just for that (and the look of it).Now I have to plug my
USB audio interface for audio stuff (although distros like RaspBMC
have good inner audio and HDMI support). That's what would make a
really powerful headless portable platform, one thing to take with you
to jam or when you don't need pro-audio (i.e. recording yourself or a
band with an audio interface).
One of my projects arose around this idea, is about some kind of
Semantic Musical Dashboard to control presets (done) and (in the
future and even with your voice) connecting things in Jackd. I started
developing it on the necessity or preference of focusing on playing
and jamming using FX and a looper and no screen. It is developed using
HTML5/REST enabling control from the phone (or whatever thing that has
a web browser) and a really light "server" that performs the actions
on the RPi (it can be whatever SO) connected to a net; the rest is
hands, instruments, a MIDI pedalboard, guitar/instrument and maybe an
amp.
Lately I'm sticking with my moto, +Muso -Tech.
I'm experimenting with phones and tablets just because they have
already a touch interface and IO (although maybe mic is not for pro
stuff) and you almost always carry them with you. But this is another
story right now until we have proper pro-audio on Linux based phones.
But things seems are moving forward on this matter.
--
Carlos sanchiavedraz
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
Our dear co-lister here, Jeremy Jongepier
(http://autostatic.com/) , I
think he wrote a post about Beagleboard on his blog time ago. He is
very active trying this kind of mini-PCs. I think it gave him some
headaches.
I did not have a decent enough power adapter for the BBB so I had issues
getting USB devices, like audio interfaces, detected. I blogged about it
here:
http://autostatic.com/2013/09/17/exit-beaglebone-black-hello-cubieboard2
But that's just a personal experience. Maybe I did something wrong or
I've looked over something obvious. At that time I also received a
Cubieboard2 and that board immediately absorbed all my interest as it's
more powerful and easier to set up. And it has onboard audio IO.
Bye,
Jeremy
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26 Feb
9:12 p.m.
On 27/02/14 04:24, Ivan Tarozzi wrote:
Il 25/02/2014 09:10, Carlos sanchiavedraz ha scritto:
ARM is a very variable target ... debian has two ARM versions which will suit
some devices .... and are a reasonable starting point for trying to get a new
device working. There is a raspberry specific repo based on one of them, where a
huge amount of work has been put in to make it run well on a raspberry ... that
work depended in part on support from broadcom and is possibly the biggest thing
that makes the raspberries an interesting platform for me.
Getting GNU/linux running on a specific ARM device is serious work, the
manufacturers have often put work into running Android/linux but that is a very
different platform. Ubuntu is working on supporting some phones with its
GNU/linux, which could be nice to have.
Simon
2014-02-24 16:58 GMT+01:00 Ivan
Tarozzi<itarozzi(a)gmail.com>om>:
Hi Carlos,
I fear you can't put musix on any ARM board. Pay attention to the arch
when you download an iso.
I can't find any musix ARM version in the musix mirrors.
Of course you can start from a debian (or other supported distro) and
then add the programs that you want.
If a packet is absent in arm repo, you can of course compile yourself.
So, consider all that said when you plan to buy a board and download
software for it.
Now I have a beaglebone black on my desk. I haven't found spare time to
test it, but next days I hope to try the debian for BBB.
Here some references:
http://beagleboard.org/Products/BeagleBone+Black
http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Debian_On_BeagleBone_Black
I have no idea about debian repo for arm, I don't know if all packages
that I found in my amd64 repo are present in arm repository.
Or I could be for the Ubuntu way (I dislike a bit, but here the UBUNTU
ARM wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM) Hi Carlos,
I'm developing an industrial application for a client using APC Rock.
I'm using Android, so I can confirm that linux runs on it and you can
find kernel and uboot here:
https://github.com/apc-io/apc-rock
I never tried a "standard" linux ditributions, so I can't tell about it,
but I fear the VIA support against linux is absent.
I suggest you look at some better supported board.
just my2c
Ivan
Thanks so much, Ivan.
It's really helpful to have such a warn before wanting to purchase one
of those and make my life trickier, most of all when surely I would
try to put Musix inside that would have some driver problems (it's
100% free/libre based on Debian).
I liked the book-style one, but now maybe I'll go some other way.
Regards.
9:48 p.m.
On 02/26/2014 09:12 PM, Simon Wise wrote:
ARM is a very variable target ... debian has two ARM
versions which will
suit some devices ....
armel and armhf should cover most devices. Haven't come across an ARM
based device (except phones) yet that doesn't run Debian.
and are a reasonable starting point for trying to
get a new device working. There is a raspberry
specific repo based on
one of them, where a huge amount of work has been put in to make it run
well on a raspberry ... that work depended in part on support from
broadcom and is possibly the biggest thing that makes the raspberries an
interesting platform for me.
Afaik Raspbian was and still is a community project unrelated to the The
Foundation itself. Rasbian was needed because Debian armel couldn't
benefit from the floating point hardware of the RPi.
Getting GNU/linux running on a specific ARM device is
serious work, the
manufacturers have often put work into running Android/linux but that is
a very different platform. Ubuntu is working on supporting some phones
with its GNU/linux, which could be nice to have.
True but once folks got Linux running on specific ARM devices and
documented the installation steps this can make things a lot easier :)
Bye,
Jeremy
Simon
10:27 p.m.
On 27/02/14 07:48, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
but very importantly it contains all the libraries and sample code, the broadcom
code with community additions, to make use of the hardware in a GNU/linux
context... which I happen to be immersed in this week.
certainly, and the sooner the better.
On 02/26/2014 09:12 PM, Simon Wise wrote:
get a new
device working. There is a raspberry specific repo based on
one of them, where a huge amount of work has been put in to make it run
well on a raspberry ... that work depended in part on support from
broadcom and is possibly the biggest thing that makes the raspberries an
interesting platform for me.
Afaik Raspbian was and still is a community project unrelated to the The
Foundation itself. Rasbian was needed because Debian armel couldn't
benefit from the floating point hardware of the RPi. Getting GNU/linux running on a specific ARM
device is serious work, the
manufacturers have often put work into running Android/linux but that is
a very different platform. Ubuntu is working on supporting some phones
with its GNU/linux, which could be nice to have.
True but once folks got Linux running on specific ARM devices and
documented the installation steps this can make things a lot easier :)
Bye,
Jeremy
Simon
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9:37 a.m.
2014-02-26 22:27 GMT+01:00 Simon Wise <simonzwise(a)gmail.com>om>:
certainly, and the sooner the better.
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* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
On 27/02/14 07:48, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
but very importantly it contains all the libraries and sample code, the
broadcom code with community additions, to make use of the hardware in a
GNU/linux context... which I happen to be immersed in this week.
Please let me/us know about you're progress.
On 02/26/2014 09:12 PM, Simon Wise wrote:
get a new
device working. There is a raspberry specific repo based on
one of them, where a huge amount of work has been put in to make it run
well on a raspberry ... that work depended in part on support from
broadcom and is possibly the biggest thing that makes the raspberries an
interesting platform for me.
Afaik Raspbian was and still is a community project unrelated to the The
Foundation itself. Rasbian was needed because Debian armel couldn't
benefit from the floating point hardware of the RPi. Getting GNU/linux running on a specific ARM
device is serious work, the
manufacturers have often put work into running Android/linux but that is
a very different platform. Ubuntu is working on supporting some phones
with its GNU/linux, which could be nice to have.
True but once folks got Linux running on specific ARM devices and
documented the installation steps this can make things a lot easier :)
Bye,
Jeremy
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1:56 a.m.
On 27/02/14 19:37, Carlos sanchiavedraz wrote:
2014-02-26 22:27 GMT+01:00 Simon
Wise<simonzwise(a)gmail.com>om>:
I'm following on from Antoine earlier work, playing videos with fading, masking,
cueing, timing and such .. getting closer, it is in OSC controlled form but will
be a pd object soon enough.
when I get it running properly, which must be in the next week or so, I'll post
the git.
Simon
On 27/02/14 07:48, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
but very importantly it contains all the libraries and sample code, the
broadcom code with community additions, to make use of the hardware in a
GNU/linux context... which I happen to be immersed in this week.
Please let me/us know about you're progress.
On 02/26/2014 09:12 PM, Simon Wise wrote:
get a new
device working. There is a raspberry specific repo based on
one of them, where a huge amount of work has been put in to make it run
well on a raspberry ... that work depended in part on support from
broadcom and is possibly the biggest thing that makes the raspberries an
interesting platform for me.
Afaik Raspbian was and still is a community project unrelated to the The
Foundation itself. Rasbian was needed because Debian armel couldn't
benefit from the floating point hardware of the RPi.
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