25 Sep
2006
25 Sep
'06
9:03 a.m.
Greetings:
Recently I tested Robert Reif's ASIO driver for WINE. It works okay for
some small test apps (asiosiggen and asiodump). I also tested it with
NI's FM7, the app opens fine but I got no sound from it. I even loaded
and played a MIDI file as a demo but still got no joy from the audio.
I'm curious to try other ASIO-driven apps but I need some
recommendations for light-to-middle weight programs for testing.
Free/shareware is best, but feel free to suggest commercial apps too. I
don't use Win/Mac music apps and I have no idea where to start.
Best,
dp
25 Sep
25 Sep
10:52 a.m.
Okay, I'll submit a non-free, non open-source Window host :-o
- FL Studio
You can download a trial version from http://www.flstudio.com/
I am not sure if this is middle-sized : in one sense it is a complete
software studio.
However, as this software is widely popular, it might be interesting
to test it ?
Regards.
PS :The program installation went all right on my (Gentoo + Wine )
box, but it crashes at runtime. I've not succeeded in installing the
ASIO-wine driver here, rather sadly...
On 9/25/06, Dave Phillips <dlphillips(a)woh.rr.com> wrote:
Greetings:
Recently I tested Robert Reif's ASIO driver for WINE. It works okay for
some small test apps (asiosiggen and asiodump). I also tested it with
NI's FM7, the app opens fine but I got no sound from it. I even loaded
and played a MIDI file as a demo but still got no joy from the audio.
I'm curious to try other ASIO-driven apps but I need some
recommendations for light-to-middle weight programs for testing.
Free/shareware is best, but feel free to suggest commercial apps too. I
don't use Win/Mac music apps and I have no idea where to start.
Best,
dp
t
4:46 p.m.
Jean-Baptiste Mestelan wrote:
Okay, I'll submit a non-free, non open-source
Window host :-o
You're a brave companion, Jean-Baptiste. :)
- FL Studio
You can download a trial version from http://www.flstudio.com/
I am not sure if this is middle-sized : in one sense it is a complete
software studio.
However, as this software is widely popular, it might be interesting
to test it ?
Okay, I got it up and apparently running, but: I didn't know enough
about it to produce a sound from anything I could do, and it crashes
whenever I try to load an example file. If I can make some sound on my
own the rest of the problem might be resolved with a file format fix.
I also tried an older version of Kontakt, it works nicely. FM7 still
looks like it's working, but I still get no audio from it. :(
The Renoise demo comes with ASIO support disabled, not much good to me
right now.
PS :The program installation went all right on my
(Gentoo + Wine )
box, but it crashes at runtime. I've not succeeded in installing the
ASIO-wine driver here, rather sadly...
Have you been reporting to Robert ?
Best,
dp
5:27 p.m.
Dave Phillips wrote:
FM7 still looks like it's working, but I still get
no audio from it. :(
Scratch that. For some reason the master volume gets set to 0 for each
patch.
Demudi 1.3 Debian Etch, kernel 2.6.15 (homebrew)
WINE 0.9.21 patched for ASIO support.
WineCfg audio/MIDI set for ALSA.
JACK period size set to 1024 to accommodate apps' recommended ASIO setting.
Audio and MIDI work nicely. I loaded a MIDI file demo, and I played the
synth from an external MIDI keyboard.
Potential interest should be modulated by the capabilities of Robert's
driver. Currently it supports only two channels and doesn't
self-configure via JACK (buffersize is hard-coded at 1024). Also, I
don't know how much more work Robert will put into the project. But the
code is there, it's a good start, and it works.
Best,
dp
1:11 p.m.
Dave Phillips wrote:
Greetings:
Recently I tested Robert Reif's ASIO driver for WINE. It works okay
for some small test apps (asiosiggen and asiodump). I also tested it
with NI's FM7, the app opens fine but I got no sound from it. I even
loaded and played a MIDI file as a demo but still got no joy from the
audio.
I'm curious to try other ASIO-driven apps but I need some
recommendations for light-to-middle weight programs for testing.
Free/shareware is best, but feel free to suggest commercial apps too.
I don't use Win/Mac music apps and I have no idea where to start.
Best,
dp
I've played alot with M$ music apps, and the best in my opinion were
Reaktor and Kontakt2 sampler. Reaktor is what I wish Csound could
become. The pre-built synths people have made were/are amazing.
One thing that bothers me though, is why are Linux peeps playing with M$
apps instead of funneling that energy towards replacements in native Linux?
I can no longer support commercial software and the bizness model for
personal reasons, but I wish that Linux had a bit more to offer as far
as music creation goes.
Ken
1:47 p.m.
On Mon, 2006-09-25 at 08:11 -0700, Ken wrote:
One thing that bothers me though, is why are Linux
peeps playing with M$
apps instead of funneling that energy towards replacements in native Linux?
maybe because trying out some cool windows apps with the new WINE/ASIO
support takes a few hours whereas writing replacements or improved
inspirations from such apps takes a few years and requires a skillset
that doesn't necessarily overlap with testing and analysis?
1:58 p.m.
Paul Davis wrote:
On Mon, 2006-09-25 at 08:11 -0700, Ken wrote:
OK, thats true. But for me the temptation becomes overwhelming, with
Ableton Live and cool plugins etc. Before I know it, I'm repartitioning
my drive, then spending all my time in Win.....arggghh
I *need* to learn software writing. Is it really years of effort to
code something worthwhile???
K
One thing that bothers me though, is why are
Linux peeps playing with M$
apps instead of funneling that energy towards replacements in native Linux?
maybe because trying out some cool windows apps with the new WINE/ASIO
support takes a few hours whereas writing replacements or improved
inspirations from such apps takes a few years and requires a skillset
that doesn't necessarily overlap with testing and analysis?
2:02 p.m.
On Monday 25 September 2006 11:38, Paul Davis wrote:
On Mon, 2006-09-25 at 08:11 -0700, Ken wrote:
Yeah, that false dichotomy has always bugged me. Even if you
limit it to developers ("why waste your time coding for Wine
when you could be writing native Linux audio apps/games/whatever
the poster thinks is lacking?"), implementing a foreign API is a
totally different job that takes a totally different mindset
than something like Bristol or LASH.
Rob
One thing that bothers me though, is why are
Linux peeps
playing with M$ apps instead of funneling that energy
towards replacements in native Linux?
maybe because trying out some cool windows
apps with the new
WINE/ASIO support takes a few hours whereas writing
replacements or improved inspirations from such apps takes a
few years and requires a skillset that doesn't necessarily
overlap with testing and analysis? 
2:12 p.m.
One thing that bothers me though, is why are Linux
peeps playing with M$
apps instead of funneling that energy towards replacements in native Linux?
What a strange thing to say. The majority of the Linux audio software out
there is capable of far more than offering simple feature replacements for
commercial windows applications. Have you even looked into the options?
(http://linux-sound.org/)
G
2:59 p.m.
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 08:11:08AM -0700, Ken wrote:
I've played alot with M$ music apps, and the best
in my opinion were
Reaktor and Kontakt2 sampler. Reaktor is what I wish Csound could
become. The pre-built synths people have made were/are amazing.
Hi,
Have you tried Puredata? It has many similar concepts to Reaktor; dataflow
patching, you can build your own GUI instruments, etc. This is based on a
very cursory play with Reaktor at a friend's place, so I could be wrong,
but I think they're similar.
Best,
Chris.
-------------------
chris(a)mccormick.cx
http://mccormick.cx
3:12 p.m.
Chris McCormick wrote:
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 08:11:08AM -0700, Ken wrote:
They are a little bit similar, but not the same. pd is more like Max
than Reaktor.
I like them both, and they are complementary.
I use Kontakt as well, and I've found nothing as good as Kontakt in
Linux-land.
--
brad fuller
sonaural: www.sonaural.com
personal: www.bradfuller.com
www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/2184
I've played alot with M$ music apps, and the
best in my opinion were
Reaktor and Kontakt2 sampler. Reaktor is what I wish Csound could
become. The pre-built synths people have made were/are amazing.
Hi,
Have you tried Puredata? It has many similar concepts to Reaktor; dataflow
patching, you can build your own GUI instruments, etc. This is based on a
very cursory play with Reaktor at a friend's place, so I could be wrong,
but I think they're similar.
3:29 p.m.
On 9/25/06, Brad Fuller <brad(a)sonaural.com> wrote:
Chris McCormick wrote:
That's one thing that really needs developing in Linux... Better
sampling software. LinuxSampler is great for Gig, but other formats
are sorely lacking. And there are so many possibilities with things
like GigaPulse, which AFAIK, has no Linux replacement yet.
-TimH
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 08:11:08AM -0700, Ken
wrote:
They are a little bit similar, but not the same. pd is more like Max
than Reaktor.
I like them both, and they are complementary.
I use Kontakt as well, and I've found nothing as good as Kontakt in
Linux-land.
-- I've played alot with M$ music apps, and the
best in my opinion were
Reaktor and Kontakt2 sampler. Reaktor is what I wish Csound could
become. The pre-built synths people have made were/are amazing.
Hi,
Have you tried Puredata? It has many similar concepts to Reaktor; dataflow
patching, you can build your own GUI instruments, etc. This is based on a
very cursory play with Reaktor at a friend's place, so I could be wrong,
but I think they're similar.
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