5 Dec
2006
5 Dec
'06
1:30 a.m.
i have been using qjackctl 0.2.2.21
could someone suggest why the iconify button has disappered.
also, is there a way that it could auto detect what sound card is
plugged in and load a preset accordingly. i use both my HDSP card and
the onboard ICH intel sound chip depending on where i am at or how
orgainised i am. but each card needs different priority and buffer
setting for jack to opperate properly.
i would really like to have qjackctl startup with my window manager
but due to my flux in sound device decision, i currently end up with
loads of errors and jack complaing at me if the preset does not mach
the device loaded.
perhaps this is a suggestion if there are no current work arounds.
thanks
5 Dec
5 Dec
6:31 a.m.
On Tue, December 5, 2006 05:30, we are wrote:
i have been using qjackctl 0.2.2.21
could someone suggest why the iconify button has disappered.
that seems to be an idiosyncrasy of your specific window manager.
also, is there a way that it could auto detect what
sound card is plugged
in and load a preset accordingly. i use both my HDSP card and the onboard
ICH intel sound chip depending on where i am at or how
orgainised i am. but each card needs different priority and buffer setting
for jack to opperate properly.
i would really like to have qjackctl startup with my window manager but
due to my flux in sound device decision, i currently end up with loads of
errors and jack complaing at me if the preset does not mach the device
loaded.
perhaps this is a suggestion if there are no current work arounds.
seems like a suggestion to me because there's no way to automate the
preset selection based on a (missing?) soundcard. I understand your
worries but I'm affraid you have to live with it, for the time being.
Qjackctl presets can only be changed manually. Remember of the complexity
of the task in detecting which audio interface is eligible when you have
all plugged in (for instance, I have 4 devices frequently connected, 1
onboard, 2 pci and 1 usb), even more if we're not alone with alsa backend
devices, there's also OSS, portaudio, coreaudio, freebob, etc. Too much
work, which seems an exercise on futility to me and at this time, and more
than that, I'm just lazy ;)
Cheers.
--
rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela
rncbc(a)rncbc.org
8:53 a.m.
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Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
On Tue, December 5, 2006 05:30, we are wrote:
sorry for hiJACKing the thread..
I experience some annoying behavior with qjackctl 0.2.21 Qt3.3.7 + gnome
+ metacity (debian/sid). anyone else too?
I've "enabled system try icon" and "keep child windows always on
top"
in qjackctl settings.
1) if qjackctl starts up before the notification area in the panel
it ends up on the first desktop...
-> tweak startup order in gnome session properties helps,
but I "always save my session" and the information is reset
when I re-start qjackctl... ok I could live with that.
2) qjackctl does not appear in the any window list (any more)
I can not "ALT-TAB" switch to qjackctl or its dialog windows!
not even select it from the task bar.
the qjackctl-Icon does not allow me to "raise" windows either.
fi. if I toggle the connections dialog it sometimes appears behind
other windows
- has someone fixed this with Gconf? qjackctl?
-> I devote some fixed workspace for qjackctl-connections, and learned
to use jack_connect ;-P
I have not seen any good alternative to qjackctl! many many thanks Rui!
robin
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9:59 a.m.
sorry for hiJACKing the thread..
I experience some annoying behavior with qjackctl 0.2.21 Qt3.3.7 + gnome
+ metacity (debian/sid). anyone else too?
I've "enabled system try icon" and "keep child windows always on
top"
in qjackctl settings.
1) if qjackctl starts up before the notification area in the panel
it ends up on the first desktop...
-> tweak startup order in gnome session properties helps,
but I "always save my session" and the information is reset
when I re-start qjackctl... ok I could live with that.
It's annoying, but I never found a clean workaround. Though, if you
look at demudi gnome startup scripts, they have "a sort of" workaround
(waiting for the panel to be started).
2) qjackctl does not appear in the any window list
(any more)
I can not "ALT-TAB" switch to qjackctl or its dialog windows!
not even select it from the task bar.
the qjackctl-Icon does not allow me to "raise" windows either.
fi. if I toggle the connections dialog it sometimes appears behind
other windows
- has someone fixed this with Gconf? qjackctl?
-> I devote some fixed workspace for qjackctl-connections, and learned
to use jack_connect ;-P
I have not seen any good alternative to qjackctl! many many thanks Rui!
I didn't have the issue with a recent qjackctl.
--
__________________
Marc-Olivier Barre,
Markinoko.
10:20 a.m.
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Marc-Olivier Barre wrote:
just compiled qjackctl CVS HEAD (Version: 0.2.20.11)
and everything works fine when I disable the "keep child windows on top"
2) qjackctl
does not appear in the any window list (any more)
I can not "ALT-TAB" switch to qjackctl or its dialog windows!
not even select it from the task bar.
the qjackctl-Icon does not allow me to "raise" windows either.
fi. if I toggle the connections dialog it sometimes appears behind
other windows
- has someone fixed this with Gconf? qjackctl?
-> I devote some fixed workspace for qjackctl-connections, and learned
to use jack_connect ;-P
I have not seen any good alternative to qjackctl! many many thanks Rui!
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11:12 a.m.
On 12/5/06, Marc-Olivier Barre <mobarre(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I haven't followed this thread. Not meaning to hi-jack too much but
since you are using QJC on Gnome do you find that if QJC is running on
a second Gnome workspace that when you go to any other workspace the
QJC windows disappear from the workspace switcher?
QJC is the only app I use that does this.
Aqualung does this partially - it's Music Store and Playlist
disappears but Aqualung itself still shows up in the workspace
switcher.
Anyway, just curious as to whether this is specific to my systems or
a common way it works.
Cheers,
Mark
sorry for
hiJACKing the thread..
I experience some annoying behavior with qjackctl 0.2.21 Qt3.3.7 + gnome
+ metacity (debian/sid). anyone else too?
I've "enabled system try icon" and "keep child windows always on
top"
in qjackctl settings.
1) if qjackctl starts up before the notification area in the panel
it ends up on the first desktop...
-> tweak startup order in gnome session properties helps,
but I "always save my session" and the information is reset
when I re-start qjackctl... ok I could live with that.
It's annoying, but I never found a clean workaround. Though, if you
look at demudi gnome startup scripts, they have "a sort of" workaround
(waiting for the panel to be started).
2) qjackctl does not appear in the any window
list (any more)
I can not "ALT-TAB" switch to qjackctl or its dialog windows!
not even select it from the task bar.
the qjackctl-Icon does not allow me to "raise" windows either.
fi. if I toggle the connections dialog it sometimes appears behind
other windows
- has someone fixed this with Gconf? qjackctl?
-> I devote some fixed workspace for qjackctl-connections, and learned
to use jack_connect ;-P
I have not seen any good alternative to qjackctl! many many thanks Rui!
I didn't have the issue with a recent qjackctl.
--
__________________
Marc-Olivier Barre,
Markinoko.
11:53 a.m.
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Mark Knecht wrote:
On 12/5/06, Marc-Olivier Barre
<mobarre(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I haven't followed this thread. Not meaning to hi-jack too much but
since you are using QJC on Gnome do you find that if QJC is running on
a second Gnome workspace that when you go to any other workspace the
QJC windows disappear from the workspace switcher?
I am confused: do you mean select "connection" from the QJC tray-icon.
This will toggle the connection window. it it was displayed on a
different workspace it will disappear there.
sorry for
hiJACKing the thread..
I experience some annoying behavior with qjackctl 0.2.21 Qt3.3.7 +
gnome
+ metacity (debian/sid). anyone else too?
I've "enabled system try icon" and "keep child windows always on
top"
in qjackctl settings.
1) if qjackctl starts up before the notification area in the panel
it ends up on the first desktop...
-> tweak startup order in gnome session properties helps,
but I "always save my session" and the information is reset
when I re-start qjackctl... ok I could live with that.
It's annoying, but I never found a clean workaround. Though, if you
look at demudi gnome startup scripts, they have "a sort of" workaround
(waiting for the panel to be started).
2) qjackctl does not appear in the any window
list (any more)
I can not "ALT-TAB" switch to qjackctl or its dialog windows!
not even select it from the task bar.
the qjackctl-Icon does not allow me to "raise" windows either.
fi. if I toggle the connections dialog it sometimes appears behind
other windows
- has someone fixed this with Gconf? qjackctl?
-> I devote some fixed workspace for qjackctl-connections, and learned
to use jack_connect ;-P
I have not seen any good alternative to qjackctl! many many thanks Rui!
I didn't have the issue with a recent qjackctl.
--
__________________
Marc-Olivier Barre,
Markinoko.
QJC is the only app I use that does this.
I can not reproduce this here.
gnome-workspace-switcher 2.14.3 always show qjackctl windows.
unless when i enable the QJC setting "keep child windows always on top".
then no QJC window is registered with gnome-taskbar, window-selector,
etc. if I minimize all others, I can access (and resize) them.
Turning this QJC option off, and everything works just fine with gnome.
Aqualung does this partially
I'm not yet an Aqualung user so I can't tell.
There's some magic that can be configured in the gnome-workspace
switcher and global settings in gconf but I don't know about those.
Applications can override setting too (xmms for example can become
"always on top" - and "always on visible workspace" using some window
manager protocol)
Anyway, just curious as to whether this is specific
to my systems or
a common way it works.
I guess most parts are common, but some issue evolve when upgrading
software + mixing with old config files etc.
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12:21 p.m.
On 12/5/06, Robin Gareus <robin(a)gareus.org> wrote:
<SNIP>
That's what I was looking for. Thanks. That option has been on
forever. I no longer remember what it really does.
Cheers,
Mark
QJC is the only app I use that does this.
I can not reproduce this here.
gnome-workspace-switcher 2.14.3 always show qjackctl windows.
unless when i enable the QJC setting "keep child windows always on top".
then no QJC window is registered with gnome-taskbar, window-selector,
etc. if I minimize all others, I can access (and resize) them.
Turning this QJC option off, and everything works just fine with gnome. 
10:55 a.m.
On Tue, December 5, 2006 12:53, Robin Gareus wrote:
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Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
Yes, the "keep child windows always on top" option is the one you can
tweak and try whether your particular WM sits confortably with qjackctl
widgets or not.
You can also try the latest CVS HEAD (qjackctl 0.2.21.1) where I've just
added some missing hint that can have some impact thru the WM.
OTOH please note that I'm a KDE believer, where everything works
deterministically ;) unfortunately I have no time nor patience to test and
run with anything else.
Cheers.
--
rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela
rncbc(a)rncbc.org
On Tue, December 5, 2006 05:30, we are wrote:
sorry for hiJACKing the thread..
I experience some annoying behavior with qjackctl 0.2.21 Qt3.3.7 + gnome
+ metacity (debian/sid). anyone else too?
I've "enabled system try icon" and "keep child windows always on
top"
in qjackctl settings.
i have been using qjackctl 0.2.2.21
could someone suggest why the iconify button has disappered.
that seems to be an idiosyncrasy of your specific window manager.
8:16 p.m.
On 12/5/06, Rui Nuno Capela <rncbc(a)rncbc.org> wrote:
perhaps a startup script is possible to detect the soundcard attached
and then load a preset accordingly.... ie
qjackctl -p --preset=$hdsp or $ICH
needless to say i will have to learn a bit more about scripting but if
there are any script wizards out there, are there any simple lines
that people could suggest off the top of their heads.
cheers
On Tue, December 5, 2006 05:30, we are wrote:
i know this is slightly trivial... sorry.
i'm using enlightenment 17 and fluxbox but the however the iconify
button is absent in both.
i have been using qjackctl 0.2.2.21
could someone suggest why the iconify button has disappered.
that seems to be an idiosyncrasy of your specific window manager. also, is there a way that it could auto detect
what sound card is plugged
in and load a preset accordingly. i use both my HDSP card and the onboard
ICH intel sound chip depending on where i am at or how
orgainised i am. but each card needs different priority and buffer setting
for jack to opperate properly.
i would really like to have qjackctl startup with my window manager but
due to my flux in sound device decision, i currently end up with loads of
errors and jack complaing at me if the preset does not mach the device
loaded.
perhaps this is a suggestion if there are no current work arounds.
8:48 p.m.
we are wrote:
On 12/5/06, Rui Nuno Capela <rncbc(a)rncbc.org>
wrote:
perhaps a startup script is possible to detect the soundcard attached
and then load a preset accordingly.... ie
qjackctl -p --preset=$hdsp or $ICH
needless to say i will have to learn a bit more about scripting but if
there are any script wizards out there, are there any simple lines
that people could suggest off the top of their heads.
cheers
hi people, me i just wanted to report that with the new cvs for me the
problem qjack appearing in fluxbox without deco is solved now!
thx rui and cheers,
doc
On Tue, December 5, 2006 05:30, we are wrote:
i know this is slightly trivial... sorry.
i'm using enlightenment 17 and fluxbox but the however the iconify
button is absent in both.
i have been using qjackctl 0.2.2.21
could someone suggest why the iconify button has disappered.
that seems to be an idiosyncrasy of your specific window manager. also, is there a way that it could auto detect
what sound card is
plugged
in and load a preset accordingly. i use both my
HDSP card and the
onboard
ICH intel sound chip depending on where i am at
or how
orgainised i am. but each card needs different priority and buffer
setting
for jack to opperate properly.
i would really like to have qjackctl startup with my window manager
but
due to my flux in sound device decision, i
currently end up with
loads of
errors and jack complaing at me if the preset
does not mach the device
loaded.
perhaps this is a suggestion if there are no current work arounds.
8 Dec
8 Dec
3:30 p.m.
we are wrote:
On 12/5/06, Rui Nuno Capela <rncbc(a)rncbc.org>
wrote:
perhaps a startup script is possible to detect the soundcard attached
and then load a preset accordingly.... ie
qjackctl -p --preset=$hdsp or $ICH
needless to say i will have to learn a bit more about scripting but if
there are any script wizards out there, are there any simple lines
that people could suggest off the top of their heads.
cheers
what is an HDSP card? if that's like some plug and play thing than you
could check in /proc/asound and see if a file named after the card comes
and goes when you plug and unplug it.
then maybe something like:
#!/bin/bash
if [ -e /proc/asound/$HDSP ]; then
qjackctl --preset=$HDSP
else
quackctl --preset=$ICH
fi
/brian
On Tue, December 5, 2006 05:30, we are wrote:
i know this is slightly trivial... sorry.
i'm using enlightenment 17 and fluxbox but the however the iconify
button is absent in both.
i have been using qjackctl 0.2.2.21
could someone suggest why the iconify button has disappered.
that seems to be an idiosyncrasy of your specific window manager. also, is there a way that it could auto detect
what sound card is
plugged
in and load a preset accordingly. i use both my
HDSP card and the
onboard
ICH intel sound chip depending on where i am at
or how
orgainised i am. but each card needs different priority and buffer
setting
for jack to opperate properly.
i would really like to have qjackctl startup with my window manager but
due to my flux in sound device decision, i currently end up with
loads of
errors and jack complaing at me if the preset
does not mach the device
loaded.
perhaps this is a suggestion if there are no current work arounds.
10 Dec
10 Dec
5:57 a.m.
On 12/9/06, we are <gateswideopen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
To make it clear for users who have other types of cards, a generic syntax
could be :
#!/bin/bash
if [ -e /proc/asound/$MY_REMOVABLE_CARD ]; then
qjackctl --preset=$MY_REMOVABLE_CARD
else
quackctl --preset=$MY_DEFAULT_INTERNAL_CARD
fi
This is just what I needed to run jackd as a start up daemon...
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Marc-Olivier Barre,
Markinoko.
#!/bin/bash
if [ -e /proc/asound/$HDSP ]; then
qjackctl --preset=$HDSP
else
quackctl --preset=$ICH
fi
Yep,
thats exactly what i need. problem solved!
thanks.
tom.
11 Dec
11 Dec
2:38 p.m.
Marc-Olivier Barre wrote:
On 12/9/06, we are <gateswideopen(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
To make it clear for users who have other types of cards, a generic syntax
could be :
#!/bin/bash
if [ -e /proc/asound/$MY_REMOVABLE_CARD ]; then
qjackctl --preset=$MY_REMOVABLE_CARD
else
quackctl --preset=$MY_DEFAULT_INTERNAL_CARD
fi
This is just what I needed to run jackd as a start up daemon...
__________________
Marc-Olivier Barre,
Markinoko.
Cool, I'm glad that worked out for you. Just as a note, checking for a
file in proc will probably only work if your system loads the modules
for you automatically when you plug in your removable card. If you have
compiled the alsa module for your external card into your kernel, or if
the module must be loaded by hand, a different approach may be necessary.
(something like greping the output of lspci to check if your card is there.)
/brian
#!/bin/bash
if [ -e /proc/asound/$HDSP ]; then
qjackctl --preset=$HDSP
else
quackctl --preset=$ICH
fi
Yep,
thats exactly what i need. problem solved!
thanks.
tom.
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