4 May
2010
4 May
'10
4:06 p.m.
Howdy folks,
I am in need of wisdom: I have a dozen or so soundfonts I play in a live
performance situation, each with their own average, max, and min dbs. I need
to normalize each of these soundfonts to an average gain and similar range,
so that I don't get hit in the head by a beer at my next show.
Any tools out there that'll let me do this? I am playing through
qsynth/fluidsynth and have a master gain but nothing (afaics) that allows me
to give a preset gain with each patch -- so I need to (i think) unpack and
re-build each soundfont with a goal volume range in mind, then use the
master gain in qsynth to bring me up to a normal volume with bristol (which
I also use, and is independently adjustable).
Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks,
Luke
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Luke Peterson
4 May
4 May
4:50 p.m.
Hey Luke,
As far as I know, the only way to do what you want is to open each soundfont
with swami and edit the volume of each soundfont by hand. Then (this would
be a personal preference) pack it all into one 128 instrument bank and then
switch instruments via program select midi messages.
Out of interest, which soundfonts/bristol synths are you using? If the
soundfonts are freely available/redistributable, I might download them and
try and normalise them for you.
Andrew.
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Luke Peterson <luke.peterson(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Howdy folks,
I am in need of wisdom: I have a dozen or so soundfonts I play in a live
performance situation, each with their own average, max, and min dbs. I need
to normalize each of these soundfonts to an average gain and similar range,
so that I don't get hit in the head by a beer at my next show.
Any tools out there that'll let me do this? I am playing through
qsynth/fluidsynth and have a master gain but nothing (afaics) that allows me
to give a preset gain with each patch -- so I need to (i think) unpack and
re-build each soundfont with a goal volume range in mind, then use the
master gain in qsynth to bring me up to a normal volume with bristol (which
I also use, and is independently adjustable).
Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks,
Luke
-----
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5:36 p.m.
Hi Andrew-
I will look into swami. It would be good for me to learn how to do this
myself. Thank you for the offer.
As far as the soundfonts go, I'm using various "vintage" keyboard patches I
found on the web. I'm not sure of some of their licensing situations
exactly ... links to the the latter two exist on enough reputable websites
that if their creator didn't want them out there, I assume they'd be down.
But that doesn't mean anything necessarily:
http://www.pianosounds.com/freesoundfont.htm
http://www.learjeff.net/sf/sf.html
http://soundfonts.homemusician.net/piano_soundfonts/198-vl-1_wurlitzer_vs.h…
http://soundfonts.homemusician.net/piano_soundfonts/dsix_magic.html
As for bristol I have played around with many of the available synths, but
I'm really only using the -b3 switch at the moment. I anticipate that I will
branch out soon.
Re: control, I've been setting each patch to its own channel and just
flipping the global channel on my controller to get sound from each one. I
will experiment with your program select suggestion and see whether it gives
me anything I don't already have. I suppose if I ever needed more than 16
patches, I'd need to do something like that.
-----
Luke Peterson
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Andrew C <countfuzzball(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Luke,
As far as I know, the only way to do what you want is to open each
soundfont with swami and edit the volume of each soundfont by hand. Then
(this would be a personal preference) pack it all into one 128 instrument
bank and then switch instruments via program select midi messages.
Out of interest, which soundfonts/bristol synths are you using? If the
soundfonts are freely available/redistributable, I might download them and
try and normalise them for you.
Andrew.
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Luke Peterson <luke.peterson(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Howdy folks,
I am in need of wisdom: I have a dozen or so soundfonts I play in a live
performance situation, each with their own average, max, and min dbs. I need
to normalize each of these soundfonts to an average gain and similar range,
so that I don't get hit in the head by a beer at my next show.
Any tools out there that'll let me do this? I am playing through
qsynth/fluidsynth and have a master gain but nothing (afaics) that allows me
to give a preset gain with each patch -- so I need to (i think) unpack and
re-build each soundfont with a goal volume range in mind, then use the
master gain in qsynth to bring me up to a normal volume with bristol (which
I also use, and is independently adjustable).
Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks,
Luke
-----
Luke Peterson
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6:03 p.m.
Hey Luke,
Well, the main benefit of having all the soundfonts in one soundfont where
you can just change programs, is that you only need one channel for the
soundfont, instead of 4 different channels for each instrument. The bristol
b3 uses 3 channels for the upper, lower manuals and pedalboard, so that's 3
channels taken.
All in all, it just makes for more efficent usage of the 16 channels
available to you. Of course if you're happy with your current set-up, why
change? ;-)
One word about swami, I've found that it can be a buggy app for no reason at
all. Save very often is my advice!
Andrew.
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Luke Peterson <luke.peterson(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Hi Andrew-
I will look into swami. It would be good for me to learn how to do this
myself. Thank you for the offer.
As far as the soundfonts go, I'm using various "vintage" keyboard patches
I
found on the web. I'm not sure of some of their licensing situations
exactly ... links to the the latter two exist on enough reputable websites
that if their creator didn't want them out there, I assume they'd be down.
But that doesn't mean anything necessarily:
http://www.pianosounds.com/freesoundfont.htm
http://www.learjeff.net/sf/sf.html
http://soundfonts.homemusician.net/piano_soundfonts/198-vl-1_wurlitzer_vs.h…
http://soundfonts.homemusician.net/piano_soundfonts/dsix_magic.html
As for bristol I have played around with many of the available synths, but
I'm really only using the -b3 switch at the moment. I anticipate that I will
branch out soon.
Re: control, I've been setting each patch to its own channel and just
flipping the global channel on my controller to get sound from each one. I
will experiment with your program select suggestion and see whether it gives
me anything I don't already have. I suppose if I ever needed more than 16
patches, I'd need to do something like that.
-----
Luke Peterson
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Andrew C <countfuzzball(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Luke,
As far as I know, the only way to do what you want is to open each
soundfont with swami and edit the volume of each soundfont by hand. Then
(this would be a personal preference) pack it all into one 128 instrument
bank and then switch instruments via program select midi messages.
Out of interest, which soundfonts/bristol synths are you using? If the
soundfonts are freely available/redistributable, I might download them and
try and normalise them for you.
Andrew.
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Luke Peterson <luke.peterson(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Howdy folks,
I am in need of wisdom: I have a dozen or so soundfonts I play in a live
performance situation, each with their own average, max, and min dbs. I need
to normalize each of these soundfonts to an average gain and similar range,
so that I don't get hit in the head by a beer at my next show.
Any tools out there that'll let me do this? I am playing through
qsynth/fluidsynth and have a master gain but nothing (afaics) that allows me
to give a preset gain with each patch -- so I need to (i think) unpack and
re-build each soundfont with a goal volume range in mind, then use the
master gain in qsynth to bring me up to a normal volume with bristol (which
I also use, and is independently adjustable).
Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks,
Luke
-----
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