26 May
2006
26 May
'06
6:37 p.m.
Hi y'all
Both songs use Ardour & jack to hang it all together, drums sequenced by
Rosegarden and fluidsynth playing the fluid soundfont and ns-kitfree.
With LADSPA - Freeverb, SC1, 4-band parametric, TAP de-esser on one
track. Mono amplifier and low and high pass filters in some places. I
did send the songs through jamin at some point and liked the results,
but I can't remember if it's these versions or not. Many thanks to
authors and contributors for these programs.
I'd love to say what genre they're in, but I don't know. World-music-ish
would be the closest. I like to use real instruments played by real
people, and I try to keep effects to a minimum.
2.7M, 3:45.
http://www.semiosix.com/songs/firelightless.ogg
One of those songs that just came together all of a sudden. I remember
running dripping out of the shower to write down the lyrics.
Made with electric & acoustic guitar, fretless bass, violin and cello
initially by Rosegarden. Later I recorded live (non-free) violin and
cello with the help of a bcf2000, which sadly isn't working 100% for
some reason.
3.1M, 4:01.
http://www.semiosix.com/songs/thirty.ogg
This song started life about 15 years ago on acoustic guitar. Electric
guitar, fretless bass, drums, percussion and vocals added in the last
year or so. I've posted it here before, and I've improved it since then.
I'm still not happy with the sequenced percussion track, but my
percussion skills aren't up to that particular task.
Of course, I wouldn't be posting these here if I didn't welcome feedback
of all kinds. I'm especially interested in what feelings the songs evoke
and what mental movies you see.
thanks in advance
John
26 May
26 May
9:17 p.m.
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of all kinds. I'm especially interested in what
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and what mental movies you see.
first thing i see is people sitting in a room playing :-)
The recordings have a very direct and lively feel, very nice...
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27 May
27 May
4:48 a.m.
John Anderson wrote:
Hi y'all
Both songs use Ardour & jack to hang it all together, drums sequenced by
Rosegarden and fluidsynth playing the fluid soundfont and ns-kitfree.
With LADSPA - Freeverb, SC1, 4-band parametric, TAP de-esser on one
track. Mono amplifier and low and high pass filters in some places. I
did send the songs through jamin at some point and liked the results,
but I can't remember if it's these versions or not. Many thanks to
authors and contributors for these programs.
I'd love to say what genre they're in, but I don't know. World-music-ish
would be the closest. I like to use real instruments played by real
people, and I try to keep effects to a minimum.
2.7M, 3:45.
http://www.semiosix.com/songs/firelightless.ogg
One of those songs that just came together all of a sudden. I remember
running dripping out of the shower to write down the lyrics.
Made with electric & acoustic guitar, fretless bass, violin and cello
initially by Rosegarden. Later I recorded live (non-free) violin and
cello with the help of a bcf2000, which sadly isn't working 100% for
some reason.
3.1M, 4:01.
http://www.semiosix.com/songs/thirty.ogg
This song started life about 15 years ago on acoustic guitar. Electric
guitar, fretless bass, drums, percussion and vocals added in the last
year or so. I've posted it here before, and I've improved it since then.
I'm still not happy with the sequenced percussion track, but my
percussion skills aren't up to that particular task.
Of course, I wouldn't be posting these here if I didn't welcome feedback
of all kinds. I'm especially interested in what feelings the songs evoke
and what mental movies you see.
thanks in advance
John
Hi John,
I like thirty. It has a nice airy flow and clean sound. It reminds me of
a soundtrack the Coen Brothers would use.
Cheers.
--
Patrick Shirkey - Boost Hardware Ltd.
Http://www.boosthardware.com
Http://lau.linuxaudio.org - The Linux Audio Users guide
========================================
"Anything your mind can see you can manifest physically, then it will
become reality" - Macka B
7:45 a.m.
Patrick Shirkey wrote:
I like thirty. It has a nice airy flow and clean
sound. It reminds me
of a soundtrack the Coen Brothers would use.
Thanks. Now all I have to do is somehow convince the Coen Brothers to
actually use it :-)
If you don't mind me asking - what did you dislike about firelightless?
Be honest now...
bye
John
8:15 a.m.
John Anderson wrote:
Patrick Shirkey wrote:
Hi John,
Well you asked for it... :)
--
- The violin comes in very sharp on the very first second of the song.
- Then there are certain pitches that the singer sounds quite flat on.
Particularly the highest notes. Otherwise her voice is well fitted to
the over feeling of the song.
- There are a couple of points where the timing is lost in the center of
the track.
++
- I like how the bass comes in nice and strong and the violin motif is
enjoyable to listen to.
- I like the whispering voices part.
- The song finishes quite strongly apart from the off notes by the singer.
Cheers.
--
Patrick Shirkey - Boost Hardware Ltd.
Http://www.boosthardware.com
Http://lau.linuxaudio.org - The Linux Audio Users guide
========================================
"Anything your mind can see you can manifest physically, then it will
become reality" - Macka B
I like thirty. It has a nice airy flow and clean
sound. It reminds me
of a soundtrack the Coen Brothers would use.
Thanks. Now all I have to do is somehow convince the Coen Brothers to
actually use it :-)
If you don't mind me asking - what did you dislike about firelightless?
Be honest now...
11:51 a.m.
On Sat, 2006-05-27 at 17:14 +0700, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
How would I ever make my work better if I didn't know what was wrong
with it? And honest criticism is a very good way to find out what's
wrong with it.
If you
don't mind me asking - what did you dislike about firelightless?
Be honest now...
Hi John,
Well you asked for it... :) --
- The violin comes in very sharp on the very first second of the song.
- Then there are certain pitches that the singer sounds quite flat on.
Particularly the highest notes. Otherwise her voice is well fitted to
the over feeling of the song.
- There are a couple of points where the timing is lost in the center of
the track.
Thanks - that's really useful. Now, where did I put that Antares... :-)
bye
John
3:48 p.m.
On Sat, 2006-05-27 at 17:14 +0700, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
John Anderson wrote:
John,
Since you're asking for painfully honest opinions I'll throw mine in
here as well ;-) I agree with Patrick on the vocals. It seems to me
that the singer is afraid of her own voice. I have recorded some of my
son's friends bands and almost without exception the "singers" think
that falsetto is their normal singing voice. I usually have to run all
of the rest of the band out and spend a few hours getting them to loosen
up and really sing. It sounds to me like the singer in Firelightless
has a decent voice, she's just got to go ahead and belt it out. If
you're striving for that soft vocal sound you can do it with mic
placement and/or volume and effects instead of having her sing falsetto.
I don't feel that you lost the timing in the center, it just gets a bit
more understated. You're still on tempo. Other than the vocals I think
it's a great song. I like everything else about it.
--
Jan 'Evil Twin' Depner
The Fuzzy Dice
http://myweb.cableone.net/eviltwin69/fuzzy.html
"As we enjoy great advantages from the invention of others, we should be
glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours, and
this we should do freely and generously."
Benjamin Franklin, on declining patents offered by the governor of
Pennsylvania for his "Pennsylvania Fireplace", c. 1744
Patrick Shirkey wrote:
Hi John,
Well you asked for it... :)
--
- The violin comes in very sharp on the very first second of the song.
- Then there are certain pitches that the singer sounds quite flat on.
Particularly the highest notes. Otherwise her voice is well fitted to
the over feeling of the song.
- There are a couple of points where the timing is lost in the center of
the track.
I like thirty. It has a nice airy flow and clean
sound. It reminds me
of a soundtrack the Coen Brothers would use.
Thanks. Now all I have to do is somehow convince the Coen Brothers to
actually use it :-)
If you don't mind me asking - what did you dislike about firelightless?
Be honest now...
28 May
28 May
7:14 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: My two best songs so far
Jan Depner <eviltwin69(a)cableone.net>et>, on Sat May 27, 2006 [12:40:59 PM] said:
here as well ;-) I agree with Patrick on the vocals.
It seems to me
that the singer is afraid of her own voice. I have recorded some of my
Hi;
I really like this song, and I have to agree the singer
seems to be repressed, but its perfect for this melody. Maybe if
I understood the lyrics Id think different, but the whole song
feels sad and repressed like communist east europe or something;)
The only part I dont like is where the singer speaks a word. It
throws off the lyrical aspect. She should remain plaintive.
Paul
set(a)pobox.com
son's friends bands and almost without exception
the "singers" think
that falsetto is their normal singing voice. I usually have to run all
of the rest of the band out and spend a few hours getting them to loosen
up and really sing. It sounds to me like the singer in Firelightless
has a decent voice, she's just got to go ahead and belt it out. If
you're striving for that soft vocal sound you can do it with mic
placement and/or volume and effects instead of having her sing falsetto.
I don't feel that you lost the timing in the center, it just gets a bit
more understated. You're still on tempo. Other than the vocals I think
it's a great song. I like everything else about it.
--
Jan 'Evil Twin' Depner
The Fuzzy Dice
http://myweb.cableone.net/eviltwin69/fuzzy.html
31 May
31 May
10:03 a.m.
On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 22:37 +0200, John Anderson wrote:
Both songs use Ardour & jack to hang it all
together, drums sequenced by
Rosegarden and fluidsynth playing the fluid soundfont and ns-kitfree.
Patrick, Jan, Paul, Hartmut. Thanks very much for your comments and
input.
bye
John
1 Jun
1 Jun
7:04 p.m.
On Fri, 26 May 2006 22:37:30 +0200
John Anderson <ardour(a)semiosix.com> wrote:
Hi,
Here are my brief impressions.
This one has a definite charm that installs itself despite the
percussion being - I find - a turn off from the start. It's a strong
piece, I find, that can live in a bare minimum, which is a pretty good
thing after all.
This one does not give such an impression. It's nice, but there's no
focal point I find.
In both pieces the percussion could benefit a lot from not being so
straight forward. You write that you like real instruments, so the
percussion also should be real. With a percussion track that is
much more alive, then it's possible to redo the bass track to play some
hide and seek with the percussion. Only that would add much more of a
driving force (not in the sense of power, but in the sense of
tone colours).
Again, the first piece is quite good.
Cheers,
Al
2 Jun
2 Jun
7:19 a.m.
On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 17:03 -0400, lanas wrote:
Here are my brief impressions.
This one has a definite charm that installs itself despite the
percussion being - I find - a turn off from the start.
What exactly don't you like about it?
This one does not give such an impression. It's nice, but there's no
focal point I find.
In both pieces the percussion could benefit a lot from not being so
straight forward. You write that you like real instruments, so the
percussion also should be real. With a percussion track that is
much more alive, then it's possible to redo the bass track to play some
hide and seek with the percussion. Only that would add much more of a
driving force (not in the sense of power, but in the sense of
tone colours).
Yeah, finding a real live drummer / percussionist is on my todo list.
Thanks for your comments.
bye
John
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