4 Feb
2015
4 Feb
'15
10:24 a.m.
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this is something that has annoyed me endlessly for years, and i still
haven't found a solution.
the issue is minor (that's why i haven't asked before), but annoying
nevertheless.
so:
i'm using qjackctl with the "system tray icon" enabled.
when i close the application window, qjackctl keeps running and is
accessible via the system tray.
cool. that's what i want.
however, every single time i close the main qjackctl window, a balloon
pops up in my notification area, telling me that the "program will
keep running in the system tray" and how to really shut it down.
the first time i read this, this information was informative (i
suppose, it has been years). but no longer.
i already know that the program will keep running. that's why i'm
using the system tray. there's no need to tell me again and again
(even within a single session!).
there *must* be simple way to "not show this message again", without
completely disabling tray notifications. but how?
btw, this is on Debian/sid with xfce4.
fgasdmr
IOhannes
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4 Feb
4 Feb
11:21 a.m.
Am 04.02.2015 um 10:24 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig:
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this is something that has annoyed me endlessly for years, and i still
haven't found a solution.
the issue is minor (that's why i haven't asked before), but annoying
nevertheless.
so:
i'm using qjackctl with the "system tray icon" enabled.
when i close the application window, qjackctl keeps running and is
accessible via the system tray.
cool. that's what i want.
however, every single time i close the main qjackctl window, a balloon
pops up in my notification area, telling me that the "program will
keep running in the system tray" and how to really shut it down.
the first time i read this, this information was informative (i
suppose, it has been years). but no longer.
i already know that the program will keep running. that's why i'm
using the system tray. there's no need to tell me again and again
(even within a single session!).
there *must* be simple way to "not show this message again", without
completely disabling tray notifications. but how?
btw, this is on Debian/sid with xfce4.
fgasdmr
IOhannes
Hi
I just click on the system tray icon to hide/show qjackctl, instead
"close" it.
regards
hermann
12:08 p.m.
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On 2015-02-04 11:21, Hermann Meyer wrote:
I just click on the system tray icon to hide/show qjackctl,
instead "close" it.
thanks for your suggestion, howerver that sounds very counterintuitive:
what i really want to do is get rid of "that window" after i'm done
with it. my focus (both my brain and my mouse) is most likely near
that window. the usual way to get rid of the current window is by
closing it via the window-decoration or by Alt-F4. *not* by moving the
mouse-pointer across 2 screens to a tiny icon and click that.
mfgasdr
IOhannes
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12:33 p.m.
Am 04.02.2015 um 12:08 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig:
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On 2015-02-04 11:21, Hermann Meyer wrote:
it suits me well. As my mouse-pointer isn't that often near the qjackctl
window.
However, click the minimize button do it as well, then, that's what the
bubble tell you, the window manager fail to close the window, he just
hide it.
So, to get rid of this message, you must look if your window manager
allow you to configure this behavior.
regards
hermann
I just click on the system tray icon to hide/show
qjackctl,
instead "close" it.
thanks for your suggestion, howerver that sounds
very counterintuitive: what i really want to do is get rid of "that
window" after i'm done
with it. my focus (both my brain and my mouse) is most likely near
that window. the usual way to get rid of the current window is by
closing it via the window-decoration or by Alt-F4. *not* by moving the
mouse-pointer across 2 screens to a tiny icon and click that.
mfgasdr
IOhannes
12:55 p.m.
Am 04.02.2015 um 12:33 schrieb Hermann Meyer:
Am 04.02.2015 um 12:08 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig:
Sorry, wrong, minimize wouldn't do it.
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On 2015-02-04 11:21, Hermann Meyer wrote:
it suits me well. As my mouse-pointer isn't that often near the
qjackctl window.
However, click the minimize button do it as well, then, that's what
the bubble tell you, the window manager fail to close the window, he
just hide it. I just click on the system tray icon to hide/show
qjackctl,
instead "close" it.
thanks for your suggestion, howerver that sounds
very counterintuitive: So, to get rid of this message, you must look if your
window manager
allow you to configure this behavior.
regards
hermann
what i really want to do is get rid of "that
window" after i'm done
with it. my focus (both my brain and my mouse) is most likely near
that window. the usual way to get rid of the current window is by
closing it via the window-decoration or by Alt-F4. *not* by moving the
mouse-pointer across 2 screens to a tiny icon and click that.
mfgasdr
IOhannes
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6 p.m.
On 02/04/2015 11:08 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
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On 2015-02-04 11:21, Hermann Meyer wrote:
hi IOhannes
indeed, the bubble popups may build up to annoying
i seem to remember that this topic has been somewhat a "dejavu", maybe
on this or some other related lists nearby...
allow me to be consistent: i've simply ditched it as a "who cares?"
stance. please accept my apologies, again.
tbh. i don't see it as a pain-of-a-nag as you probably do :) the bubble
only happens to stay there for a dozen of seconds or even less (yeah
right, it's probably 10secs.), but you can just click on it and bang! it
will (shall) vanish immediately--is it too much of a nag?
ok. you can also refrain yourself from ever touching the WM's close
command ie. the [x] button on most top level window decorations. you can
just teach yourself to follow Herman's advice from this moment on %)
hth.
cheers
--
rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela
rncbc(a)rncbc.org
I just click on the system tray icon to hide/show qjackctl,
instead "close" it.
thanks for your suggestion, howerver that sounds very counterintuitive:
what i really want to do is get rid of "that window" after i'm done
with it. my focus (both my brain and my mouse) is most likely near
that window. the usual way to get rid of the current window is by
closing it via the window-decoration or by Alt-F4. *not* by moving the
mouse-pointer across 2 screens to a tiny icon and click that.
9 Feb
9 Feb
8:38 p.m.
On 02/04/2015 11:08 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
fwiw.
starting from qjackctl >= 0.3.12.4, as of today's git head, there's this
brand new "don't show this message again" option check-box for your (and
my) piece of mind :)
better late than never
cheers
--
rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela
rncbc(a)rncbc.org
what i really want to do is get rid of "that window" after i'm done
with it. my focus (both my brain and my mouse) is most likely near
that window. the usual way to get rid of the current window is by
closing it via the window-decoration or by Alt-F4. *not* by moving the
mouse-pointer across 2 screens to a tiny icon and click that.
8:52 p.m.
On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 07:37:56PM +0000, Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
starting from qjackctl >= 0.3.12.4, as of
today's git head, there's
this brand new "don't show this message again" option check-box for
your (and my) piece of mind :)
better late than never
There is still (and always has been) a lot modal behavior in
qjackctl - like being unable to do some things unless you first
close another window. It would be a good thing (TM) to get rid
of all of that.
Tschuss,
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It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris
and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)
17 Feb
17 Feb
9:27 a.m.
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On 2015-02-09 20:52, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
There is still (and always has been) a lot modal behavior in
qjackctl - like being unable to do some things unless you first
close another window. It would be a good thing (TM) to get rid of
all of that.
do you have a (probably incomplete) list of "all that"?
it might help getting rid of it.
gmasdr
IOhannes
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9:45 a.m.
On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 09:27:00 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
On 2015-02-09 20:52, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
"it is possible for JACK clients (such as Ardour, but including many
other applications) to ask the JACK server to change its latency
settings "on the fly". The JACK->Latency menu in Ardour is one way to
do this" - https://community.ardour.org/node/3191
When using qjackctl you not only need to close a window, you need to
stop jackd and restart it, to change the latency.
It doesn't matter for an app like Qtractor, since the latency
compensation for audio tracks anyway won't get adjusted to the new
latency.
Using different audio applications the behaviour isn't consistent. IOW
the Linux approach to use several apps instead a one-in-all app doesn't
always work for Linux audio.
There is still (and always has been) a lot modal
behavior in
qjackctl - like being unable to do some things unless you first
close another window. It would be a good thing (TM) to get rid of
all of that.
do you have a (probably incomplete) list of "all that"?
it might help getting rid of it. 
27 Feb
27 Feb
10:16 p.m.
New subject: qjackctl: modeless setup dialog (was: disable baloon popups?)
On 02/09/2015 07:52 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 07:37:56PM +0000, Rui Nuno
Capela wrote:
hi, starting from qjackctl >= 0.3.12.6, as of today's git master/head
that is, the Setup dialog is now fully "modeless".
being formerly modal as ever since, for a dozen years now, it has been
the source of most if not all of the above complained "modality" :)
hth.
cheers
--
rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela
rncbc(a)rncbc.org
starting from qjackctl >= 0.3.12.4, as of
today's git head, there's
this brand new "don't show this message again" option check-box for
your (and my) piece of mind :)
better late than never
There is still (and always has been) a lot modal behavior in
qjackctl - like being unable to do some things unless you first
close another window. It would be a good thing (TM) to get rid
of all of that.
4 May
4 May
10:07 p.m.
New subject: qjackctl: modeless setup dialog (was: disable baloon popups?)
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 09:16:09PM +0000, Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
hi, starting from qjackctl >= 0.3.12.6, as of
today's git
master/head that is, the Setup dialog is now fully "modeless".
A few small feature requests for qjackctl on Windows:
- allow to set the priority (-P) parameter,
- allow more than 1024 ports (on the system I use at work,
512 are taken by physical I/O only).
Ciao,
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A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia.
It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris
and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)
11:21 p.m.
New subject: qjackctl: modeless setup dialog
On 05/04/2015 09:07 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 09:16:09PM +0000, Rui Nuno
Capela wrote:
hi, starting from qjackctl >= 0.3.12.6, as of
today's git
master/head that is, the Setup dialog is now fully "modeless".
A few small feature requests for qjackctl on Windows:
- allow to set the priority (-P) parameter,
the priority parameter (-P) is actually set and applicable to realtime
scheduling mode only--it just doesn't apply when coreaudio backend
(macosx) is in charge; should be fine with portaudio (windows) though.
- allow more than 1024 ports (on the system I use at
work,
512 are taken by physical I/O only).
well, you can write any value you want in that port maximum entry field:
it's an editable combo-box thus not restricted to those dropdown-list
values.
hth.
--
rncbc aka. Rui Nuno Capela
17 Feb
17 Feb
9:25 a.m.
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On 2015-02-09 20:37, Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
better late than never
thanks.
gmasr
IOhannes
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