They sound quite boring because the sounds are clustered to one point in the stereo space. Anyone would have a solution? Would sospubs or prorec have articles on this? Listen to Heware.mp3 by Morad Kaveh at http://www.morad.net for a good use of space. (Not made with Linux.) But if you want an ultimate experience in mixing and effecting, please check out, e.g., The Eye album of Yello (www.yello.ch). Last summer Start-AB at Germany held a remix contest with the Yello provided loops. It was a great success: 300 remixes were submitted. In my opinion, the downside was that nobody actually used the provided loops to the extend that Boris Blank himself used. The loops are at ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/culture/music/western/Yello/ The contest loops are in contest2004.tar.gz but there are other, earlier loop sets provided by Boris. Hearing the contest loops individually really shows how complex mixes Boris does. All loops are used in his mix. Juhana -- http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-graphics-dev for developers of open source graphics software