11 Apr
2003
11 Apr
'03
7:54 a.m.
Hi folks
I am wondering if there is such thing as a MIDI control interface with
various faders/wheels on it, like various keyboards have for mod/pitch bend
wheels. If so, can anybody make any recommendations?
Thanks
Luke.
11 Apr
11 Apr
9:21 a.m.
Luke Yelavich wrote:
I am wondering if there is such thing as a MIDI
control interface with
various faders/wheels on it, like various keyboards have for mod/pitch bend
wheels.
<http://www.evolution.co.uk/products/controller.htm>
<http://www.doepfer.de/home_e.htm>
<http://www.edirol.com/products/info/ur80.html> (not sure if this one has
MIDI; try asking them)
Or keyboards with many controllers:
<http://www.evolution.co.uk/products/keyboards_01.htm>
<http://www.edirol.com/products/info/pcr30.html>
<http://www.edirol.com/products/info/pcr50.html>
<http://www.m-audio.com/products/midiman/oxygen8.php>
<http://www.m-audio.com/products/midiman/ozone.php>
<http://www.m-audio.com/products/midiman/radium.php>
HTH
Clemens
9:34 a.m.
I hate to tell you, but I'm already trying for +1month to get my
Evolutionkeyboard to work with rosegarden... Any hints?
On Fri, 2003-04-11 at 13:11, Clemens Ladisch wrote:
Luke Yelavich wrote:
I am wondering if there is such thing as a MIDI
control interface with
various faders/wheels on it, like various keyboards have for mod/pitch bend
wheels.
<http://www.evolution.co.uk/products/controller.htm>
<http://www.doepfer.de/home_e.htm>
<http://www.edirol.com/products/info/ur80.html> (not sure if this one has
MIDI; try asking them)
Or keyboards with many controllers:
<http://www.evolution.co.uk/products/keyboards_01.htm>
<http://www.edirol.com/products/info/pcr30.html>
<http://www.edirol.com/products/info/pcr50.html>
<http://www.m-audio.com/products/midiman/oxygen8.php>
<http://www.m-audio.com/products/midiman/ozone.php>
<http://www.m-audio.com/products/midiman/radium.php>
HTH
Clemens
9:51 a.m.
Moeflon wrote:
I hate to tell you, but I'm already trying for
+1month to get my
Evolutionkeyboard to work with rosegarden... Any hints?
Hey, I use an Evolution controller keyboard with Rosegarden. The
problem is (here and on the rosegarden-user list) that we're still
trying to work out exactly what the problem you're having is...
(Actually I don't know whether the keyboard worked with RG4-0.8.5,
as I didn't have it when 0.8.5 was released.)
Chris
10:50 a.m.
OK, let me explain the situation:
I'm running MDK9.1. I use the Evolution MK-249c²-keyboard, which is
connected to usb and midi-in-port from the livedrive of my
SBlive5.1platinum-card.
I managed to get amSynth to work with the keyboard. Yes, I can play
notes through it and hear sound coming out of my speakers. (After I
connected the keyboard to amSynth in ALSA-PAcht-Bay) And yes, in amSynth
I even can get the midi-controls assigned. (modulation, pan, delay etc.)
What doesn't work is to get any midi-I/O with rosegarden. I launch
rosegarden, select a bank an try to play some notes. Nothing happens.
Even when I don't select a bank (those are the banks from the
soundcard)it doesn't work. Yes, rosegarden knows the keyboard is
connected because it says so.
When I manually edit the notes, and play the track, the VU-meter on the
left is moving, but no sound-output.
How can I get Rosegarden to get the input from my keyboard via amSynth
to get in to the track of rosegarden?
How can I get Rosegarden to produce any sound-output?
Do I need to configure the mididevices in RG to do so? Or do I need to
make some extra connections in ALSA-Patch-Bay? (don't think so, because
when RG launches, it makes the connections automatically from what I
could see in the ALSA-p-b-window...)
I'm really clueless. I can understand you guys don't understand what the
problem is. Therefore I tried over and over again (yes, I've been
pulling my hair already) to get it to work. What's wrong?
PLEASE, could you help me out? I've read almost every faq available, but
stil no result...
I'm a midi-newbie.
On Fri, 2003-04-11 at 13:41, Chris Cannam wrote:
Moeflon wrote:
I hate to tell you, but I'm already trying
for +1month to get my
Evolutionkeyboard to work with rosegarden... Any hints?
Hey, I use an Evolution controller keyboard with Rosegarden. The
problem is (here and on the rosegarden-user list) that we're still
trying to work out exactly what the problem you're having is...
(Actually I don't know whether the keyboard worked with RG4-0.8.5,
as I didn't have it when 0.8.5 was released.)
Chris
11:44 a.m.
Hallo,
Moeflon hat gesagt: // Moeflon wrote:
What doesn't work is to get any midi-I/O with
rosegarden. I launch
rosegarden, select a bank an try to play some notes. Nothing happens.
Even when I don't select a bank (those are the banks from the
soundcard)it doesn't work. Yes, rosegarden knows the keyboard is
connected because it says so.
When I manually edit the notes, and play the track, the VU-meter on the
left is moving, but no sound-output.
How can I get Rosegarden to get the input from my keyboard via amSynth
to get in to the track of rosegarden?
How can I get Rosegarden to produce any sound-output?
Midi contains just notes, but doesn't do anything to create sounds out
of them. You need a synthesizer - software or hardware - to play the
notes coming from the Midi data stream. Try something like fluidsynth
(www.fluidsynth.org) or Timidity as software synth.
Or buy a midi capable synthesizer, that you can connect to the
midi-out of your cards.
ciao
--
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
11:50 a.m.
Moeflon wrote:
What doesn't work is to get any midi-I/O with
rosegarden. I launch
rosegarden, select a bank an try to play some notes. Nothing happens.
I don't know anything about amSynth, but I assume (from your
description, mostly) that it's a soft-synth driven via the ALSA
sequencer API.
It isn't even clear to me yet whether you get sound output from
Rosegarden if you aren't using the Evolution at all. I asked
about this in a previous message on linux-audio-user, but I
don't think you replied.
What happens if you do this? --
1. start amSynth
2. start Rosegarden
3. click-and-hold on the first track's label, and when the
instrument popup appears, choose the first instrument on
the amSynth device (unfortunately I don't know what the
amSynth device will be called as it depends on the amSynth
code, but it'll probably be the only device other than the
Evolution's MIDI output)
4. create a segment on the first track
5. open the segment in the matrix editor
6. run the mouse up and down the piano-keyboard-thing shown in
the matrix view -- do you get any sound?
Also, try running the "rosegardensequencer" application from a
separate terminal window and sending the output to us at
rosegarden-user (cc'd here). That should show a list of the
devices Rosegarden thinks you have present.
Chris
11:55 a.m.
Clemens Ladisch wrote:
Luke Yelavich wrote:
I thought the original poster was asking for a software equivalent of
the controllers in keyboards like those.
Which would be quite a neat thing although perhaps hard to operate in
real-time. I don't know of one, though I'm sure someone is about to
pop up and tell me I could build one with pd.
Chris
I am wondering if there is such thing as a MIDI
control interface
with various faders/wheels on it, like various keyboards have for
mod/pitch bend wheels.
<http://www.evolution.co.uk/products/controller.htm> [...]
1:32 p.m.
Chris Cannam wrote:
Clemens Ladisch wrote:
There is vkeybd <http://www.alsa-project.org/~iwai/alsa.html#vkeybd>
which could be easily extended to have more controllers (it's partly
written in Tcl).
HTH
Clemens
Luke Yelavich wrote:
I thought the original poster was asking for a software equivalent of
the controllers in keyboards like those. [...] I don't know of one,
though I'm sure someone is about to pop up and tell me I could build
one with pd. I am wondering if there is such thing as a MIDI
control interface
with various faders/wheels on it, like various keyboards have for
mod/pitch bend wheels.
<http://www.evolution.co.uk/products/controller.htm> [...] 
1:56 p.m.
There is vkeybd
which could be easily extended to have more controllers
I like vkeybd. We use it to change patches in soundfonts which we then play
with an external Roland controller - since the Roland can't list the patch
names. To do this we just connect both vkeybd and the Roland to the same MIDI
input with aconnect. After selecting the patch, you have to play one note in
vkeybd to change the patch played by the Roland.
It would be great if you could select the soundfont from within vkeybd. We use
sfxload on the command line, but you have to close vkeybd and restart it to
get the new patch names - then reconnect the MIDI inputs/outputs, which is a
bit of a pain. Anyone know a way round this? We don't have any Tcl coders in
the band, unfortunately...
Cheers
Daniel
12:45 p.m.
Alternatively, it's a lot cheaper to DIY:
http://www.audiomulch.com/midipic/
Then you can also have total choice over what your controls are, and use more
exotic input sources.
On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:11:14 +0200 (METDST), Clemens Ladisch wrote
Luke Yelavich wrote:
I am wondering if there is such thing as a MIDI
control interface with
various faders/wheels on it, like various keyboards have for mod/pitch bend
wheels.
<http://www.evolution.co.uk/products/controller.htm>
<http://www.doepfer.de/home_e.htm>
<http://www.edirol.com/products/info/ur80.html> (not sure if this
one has MIDI; try asking them)
Or keyboards with many controllers:
<http://www.evolution.co.uk/products/keyboards_01.htm>
<http://www.edirol.com/products/info/pcr30.html>
<http://www.edirol.com/products/info/pcr50.html>
<http://www.m-audio.com/products/midiman/oxygen8.php>
<http://www.m-audio.com/products/midiman/ozone.php>
<http://www.m-audio.com/products/midiman/radium.php>
HTH
Clemens
1:13 p.m.
Hallo,
Dave Griffiths hat gesagt: // Dave Griffiths wrote:
Alternatively, it's a lot cheaper to DIY:
http://www.audiomulch.com/midipic/
It's probably not cheaper for me, because if I'd work for money the
time, that it would take *me* to build such a thing, I could probably
afford a M-Audio Surface One ;)
I'd like to add the Phil Rees midi fader box to the list, which is the
cheapest 16-fader midi box I know and while its faders also do feel
cheap, it has a nice little turning knob to change presets on the fly,
something I really missed on the Doepfer faderbox (which has much
better faders, though)
ciao
--
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
1:25 p.m.
On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 05:04:02PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
I'd like to add the Phil Rees midi fader box to
the list, which is the
cheapest 16-fader midi box I know
How much does it cost? It seems impossible to find a price on that web page.
wb
--
Will Benton
willb(a)acm.org
2:23 p.m.
Hallo,
Will Benton hat gesagt: // Will Benton wrote:
I paid 169,- Euro.
ciao
--
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
I'd like
to add the Phil Rees midi fader box to the list, which is the
cheapest 16-fader midi box I know
How much does it cost? It seems impossible to find a price on that web page. 
14 Apr
14 Apr
11:28 a.m.
Alternatively, it's a lot cheaper to DIY:
http://www.audiomulch.com/midipic/
And even simpler & cheaper, you could use the joystick port of
your PC / soundcard, to connect 4 pot meters and 4 buttons. For
the price of 1 joystick connector, a bit of cable, the pot meters
and the buttons and a case.
(And I guess a lot of people have 2 joystick ports, one integrated
on the mainboard and one on the soundcard, which makes this 8)
http://www.epanorama.net/documents/joystick/pc_circuits.html
(see 'Connect other circuits to PC joystick port')
Maarten
3:08 p.m.
Hallo,
Maarten de Boer hat gesagt: // Maarten de Boer wrote:
This page is a lot better.
http://dbmix.sourceforge.net/Readme.exmixer
Cool layout. ;)
But: most laptops don't have a gameport anymore, so all this soldering
might be in vane if you're out for some mobile action. I use a PSX pad
connected via a USB adapter on my laptop. Do you know of some similar
info regarding soldering for USB?
ciao
--
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
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